Hi there, here's a little program, all you purists should have a look at. It's something, that definately does not amuse us (Abyss, Candyman and Tao) at all. And we still don't know how to handle this situation. It was on a Cream-Meeting last week at A.-t-'s home, when we had some creative moments working on 'heftig', which is really hard for us to finish in these summer-days. We had a break and A.-t- went for some Cigarettes, while we were exploring his HD to find some unused gfx and found this little tool. He always admitted to use render-tools to create gfx for menus, titles or pics as long as he doesn't have show his skills. That was okay for us, as long the results were satisfying. But he alwas denied that he uses such tools when he should draw instead. The discussions about his methods to create the '...do things.' - gfx didn't affect our attitude on his skills, but now we're somehow confused. We'll have another meeting soon to decide how or if we're able to continue our work together as 'Cream' in the way we did until now. But have a look and judge by yourself.....