Nothin' But Net

The Internet and Atari

by George Iken, Houston Atari Computer Enthusiasts


Introduction | What You Need | FTP | Newsgroups

Introduction

    Vice President Gore's "information superhighway" is only an intersection or two away from many Atari users.  Actually the superhighway one might imagine from that description doesn't really exist, but there is kind of a spiders web of potholed roads that does manage to get pretty much all across the US, in fact all around the world.  And even for Atari users, getting onto those motorways to nearly everywhere is a snap.

    First you need a connection to the Internet.  The InterNet was originally a cold war era concept of communication and data security that pre-supposed that an atomic attack would wipe out a city or two or perhaps several hundreds.  To maintain communications and be able to get at data that was centralized in any one place could mean disaster for the US.  However, if communications could be routed nearly instantaneously around any "damaged" facilities, and if data was stored in "thousands" of places, the damage by an attack could be minimized.  The Defense Department set up the InterNet for this scenario by connecting nearly every University, defense department contractor, and government installation into a network of literally thousands of main frame computers that could route messages between computers in nearly any combination.  A message between the University of Houston and Rice University for instance might be routed by the InterNet from U of H to North Dakota, then Maine, Washington DC, California, Wyoming and finally to Rice, by choosing the easiest route with the least amount of traffic.  All computer controlled.

    The cold war has ended (keep those toes crossed), the military - industrial giant is being downsized, but the InterNet remains.  And since national security is no longer at stake, the InterNet was opened to the public.  You can still get on it FREE if you are student or faculty at most Universities, or in the government, or you can pay a fee to an InterNet provider if you're just a Joe Blow citizen.  It's not limited to the US.  Virtually every University in the world is on the InterNet now (in some form or fashion).

    The Internet provider may (probably will) charge for giving you that access, and the fee will depend to some extent on what you are being provided.  The Internet offers several basic functions.  These are file transfers (FTP access), E-mail, message groups, mailing lists, and lately the World Wide Web ((HTTP access).  E-mail is the simplest function, and while important it doesn't provide a heck of a lot of "hobby" use.  FTP access is more important to the hobbyist as you can download files, but it will probably cost more than just E-mail alone.   Message groups and mailing lists sound better than they really are, but you generally get access to those too if you have FTP access.  All of that can be done with an Atari and an Internet provider.  World Wide Web (HTTP access) requires a SLIP/PPP provider and that is now available for Atari computers too.

    The biggest public providers to the Internet are CompuServe, America On-Line, GEnie, Delphi, Prodigy, etc.  America On-Line is the fastest growing of that bunch, and many of its users have never been on-line before, so their "on-line manners" were particularly bad at one time (and it became habit forming .. more on that when we get to newsgroups).  On the InterNet today, 14.4 kilobaud modems are considered kind of slow, and 2400 baud is stone age.  Internet providers can give you a home page, which makes it look like your PC is one of those big Cray's in some University. And some (not all) Internet providers will let you use a "nickname" so you can make a fool of yourself and even your next door neighbor wouldn't recognize it's you (one would hope).

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What You Need

   Even 8-bit users can use the Internet, but to get the most out of the Internet, you'll want an 80 column terminal program.  Whether you're surfing FTP sites (file downloads) or newsgroups, without 80 columns you're only going to get frustratingly confused.  You will also want transmission rates as fast as your modem can go (Note that 9600 baud is about the limit for an unmodified 8-bit and 14.4K is the limit for an unmodified ST, while higher speeds are available on a MegaSTe, TTO30 or Falcon030).

    For 8-bit users, the two best 80 column modem programs are ICE-T and Flickerterm.  The report on Flickerterm is that it can reliably log on at 9600 baud.  I am not sure if Flickerterm emulates a VT-100 terminal or not. Generally you should have VT-100 emulation for Internet access.  ICE-T does have VT-100 emulation.  It is considered to be "generally" reliable at 9600 baud, but does admit to some data errors at times at that rate without hardware flow control (I assume that means modem hardware).  They're both free for a looksee (they are shareware programs), so get 'em and use 'em.

    ST users have a wide range of modem programs available. I use Flash II which has outstanding VT-100 emulation, and is highly recommended.  Stalker 3 is another highly recommended program of note.  Most shareware terminal programs such as the older VanTerm are more than adequate as well.

    Whoever you use for Internet provider, remember you want to get FTP access, not just E-mail.   I use Delphi/Internet as my provider and the cost is $23/month, for 20 hours/month ($1/hr for hours over 20/month) of Internet access with E-mail, FTP access, mailing lists and message groups.  Delphi is strictly text based, but you can access both HTTP via a shell program the offer called Lynx (no connection with the Atari Lynx video game).

    If you have a PC, you can get all kinds of help to get on the Internet. There must be at least a hundred books and magazines, and nearly all of them assume you have an MSDOS computer.  There are a few books that are expressly for the Macintosh, but none for the Atari ST or 8-bit computers. But fortunately there are a couple of books that specifically describe getting onto the Internet through Delphi as the service provider.  The best of these books in my opinion (the only one I've read so far, so take that statement for what it's worth) is Internet Slick Tricks, by Alfred and Emily Glossbrenner.  The other book I have that describes the Delphi interface is Internet Basics by Steve Lambert and Walt Howe.  The first book is very understandably written, while the second book looks like a two
week read.  But either will do if you want to get on the Internet through Delphi or to simply understand those functions (FTP and E-mail) that can be accomplished with an Atari.

    In the Internet Slick Tricks book, are all the details on how to use the Delphi Internet shell (which means neither Delphi nor the Internet even know what kind of computer you're on).  The things you need to do that with an ST is to have a modem (14.4K or faster preferred), a terminal program that can emulate VT-100 (I use Flash II), and the Delphi access.

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FTP (Ya You Know Me)

    In the meantime, it's helpful to have an idea where to go.  Each FTP site on the net has a specific address, but each site doesn't have the same stuff available.  The Glossbrenner book gives a few possibilities you might want to check out, like the Project Gutenberg (text files on various classic books) at mrcnext.cso.uiuc.edu or other offbeat stuff.  But if you want Atari stuff where do you go?  The Glossbrenner book never once mentions Atari.  There are a couple of old (and on the Internet that means outdated) CD ROM's readily available in stores selling $9.95 CD ROM's. These generally are  MSDOS CD ROMs, but one called the Internet Toolkit has text files that can be read on the ST through a CD Drive with ExtenDOS Pro software (okay, you need a SCSI CD drive, and you need an ICD host adapter and ICD software too).  The Internet Toolkit had a list of FTP sites (March '93, and some of them are still active) and this was what I first used when logging onto the Internet through Delphi.  There is a code to FTP sites which signifies their origin.

    FTP sites ending with edu are US or Canadian universities, de stands for Germany, fi is Finland?, fr is France, and se is anyone's guess. .com is a commercial site (US).

    FTP sites are a dynamic situation, but there are a lot of stable sites out there yet.  The mother of all Atari archives is at the University of Michigan, but you can almost NEVER get in to atari.archive.umich.edu because it has a limit of 30 or so anonymous guests (ie anyone who doesn't go to the University of Michigan).  But the Atari archives at U Mich are mirrored (copies exist) at several FTP sites around the world that are easy to get into.  These include wuarchive.wustl.edu (Washington Univ, in St Louis), ftp.switch.ch (in Switzerland), etc.  The amazing part of the Internet is that you can get downloads from Switzerland or Germany as quickly and easily as if it was just another 7-11 around the corner. Here's how it's done.

    OK, you need a server, someone who has access to the University, government, or commercial mainframes that are linked together in the Internet.  If you don't have student or company access, you can buy access from a commercial company.   Depending on what your server is (GEnie, Delphi, AOL, university access, company access, or a private Internet provider), you may or may not have a shell program.  I use Delphi and the Internet shell there has an FTP menu item.  You just pick that item and it asks you where do you want to go (it helps at that point to have some good FTP addresses or you won't go anywhere).  So let's say I type ftp.cnam.fr for a site in France that I know has Atari files.  The shell asks if you want to go as an anonymous guest (the default), so I just press RETURN, then it says it will give the FTP site your Delphi mailing address as the password (so much for anonymity).  If you typed the name right, and the
site is up and running and has space, you're in (in this case, literally inside some computer in France).   The whole thing takes maybe 15 or 20 seconds.

    When you get into an FTP site, there are a couple of things to remember about downloading files.  BINARY works on both text and binary files. ASCII works only on text files, so the FIRST THING AFTER you're logged onto the FTP site, type BIN, and after the FTP site says it's changed your access mode, just for the heck of it type HASH.  HASH turns on hash marks when downloading, so you can see if the download is actually progressing or not. Actually, all of those commands on internet are typed in lower case, so the correct command is bin and hash.

    The Atari files aren't right there in the root directory of the computer of course.  FTP sites generally support more than one (often ALL) computers. You can change directories on the FTP site computer by typing cd (change directory).  Typing cd without anything behind it is the same thing as saying cd up (move up in the directory tree...toward the root directory). To find out where you might want to go (if you don't already know the paths) you should do a dir (read directory) to see the current directory list.  Most Atari files are in a pub (public) directory.  So cd pub moves to that directory;.  If atari is an entry in the pub directory, then cd atari moves to the atari directory.  If there is a CAPITAL letter in a directory, or a character other than a to z, then you have to put the directory name in quotes to get to it.  ie if the directory of Atari files is in pub, type cd pub.  Then to go to Atari, type cd "Atari". To go to CD-rom, type cd "CD-rom".   The wording must be exactly right or the FTP site will say that directory does not exist.

    In the new directory, dir gives you a list of files again.  To actually download a file, type get filename (or if the filename has capital letters or symbols, type get "filename").  It's probably best if the filename is always in quotes.  Since these are Unix computers, the filename may be really strange and not suitable for the Atari file system.  You can rename the file at the time of download with get "filename" newname where newname is the name you want it changed to.  If "filename" is an ok name, then you can omit newname.  Some files might be called things like itsybitsylittle_game.zip, which you could download with something like: get "itsybitsylittle_game.zip" tinygame.zip

     When you get a directory listing with the dir command, the list generally looks like this:

d=-rwl-ak   abunchofgarbageinfo  adate maybeasize filename
r-=rlwdar   moregarbage          adate mabyeasize filename
d-lkwarra   moreandmore ....

    The d at the front means it is a directory, while the r means it is a file.  Only files can be downloaded with "get", and only directories can be moved into with "cd".

    You can leave the FTP site with a command to quit. That should return you to your internet server (in my case back to the Delphi shell).

    On Delphi, any files I "get" from an FTP site don't come directly to my computer.  They go to my designated "Workspace" on Delphi, and I have to download them from the Workspace to my computer.  Sounds complicated, but it's not.  And it's fast.  A 300 Kilobyte file can be downloaded from Germany to the workspace in maybe 2 minutes or less, and then another 6 minutes or so to get it from Delphi to me (the big computers communicate at 57K or higher, while I communicate with Delphi at 9600 baud).  A fast modem helps in this latter step.

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Newsgroups

   It used to be that I only did FTP file downloads on the Internet.  And then I started to read a few Atari newsgroups (Jaguar and Lynx both have one as do ST and 8-bit computers).   Most of the time, it's a waste of time with people giving messages like "its awesome" end quote or someone cursing someone else out using words way outside the norms of civilized language (the Atari groups are more civilized than most). Usually an hour on Atari news groups does find one or two gems of information on some program or other.  Pretty slow way to drop a load of online time, eh? Well, yes, but that's what hobbies are for.

    If you are used to the message area on an Atari BBS, you have a general idea of what a newsgroup on the internet is.  One person leaves a message...either to someone else or just to the public.  Whether it is to someone else or not, the entire public can read it and can respond to it (private letters are e-mail).  The original message was assigned a topic heading or subject within the newsgroup.  In a newsgroup, that topic will continue in a number of ways.  Responses to the original message or to subsequent messages in the topic are kept together in a group of similar time lines.  Let's say there is a topic called "HACE And Why I Love It". The first message might be entered on July 1st, and maybe there were two responses very quickly (within a week anyhow).  Those three messages would be grouped together in that topic.  Then say a response was posted two weeks later.  The same topic name would be used, but it would be stuck in the newsgroup menu of topics maybe 30 or 40 topics away.  So as you scan through messages typically left in the last 14 days, you might run into 2 or 3 topics of the same name, some with 2 or 3 messages in them, maybe one with 18 messages, some with only one.  The real problem with this is the message two weeks later is a response to a message located somewhere else. This often (very often) does not lead to messages making much sense.  So folks tend to duplicate the old message in their message.  That's a good idea, except most folks duplicate THE ENTIRE MESSAGE not just a few pertinent lines, so you get to read the same thing maybe 5 or 6 (or more) times.  The word for this is BORING.   Especially when the response is often no more than "You're so right!" (or if he's wrong, the wording might be somewhat stronger).   Some folks can't resist trying to spice up the boring parts.  Newsgroups are a particularly fast growing part of the InterNet consisting of special interest message bases which can be either "moderated" or not.  A moderated message base is where someone might remove a message with a commercial message (there are other message bases for that) or foul language or hateful or mean spirited messages that might distress readers.  It could be censorship (if strictly imposed) or it could just be good manners.  An un-moderated newsgroup (usually identified as ALT SOMETHING OR OTHER, for alternate newsgroup) ...  well they don't have anyone to clean up after them, so it is mostly filled with bad manners, foul language, etc.  They are VERY popular.  On most ALT newsgroups, if someone disagrees with something another person has written, it is usually brought to the entire newsgroup's attention with a number of vulgar words, statements, and sometimes entire sentences, before, during and after the disagreement is mentioned.  And if a person really disagrees, he may send several thousand e-mail messages to another person's e-mail address in oh, say a two hour period.  That usually gets the recipient in trouble with his InterNet provider, but hey the cold war is over, right?  That is the InterNet today:
 
    Anyhow, I get much more out of the online forums at Delphi and GEnie and the message bases at the HACE BBS (713-458-9923) than I do from newsgroups. But I know you've gotta look at 'em yourself to decide.

Atari related newsgroups include:

1   TOS General Discussion (comp.sys.atari.st)
2   TOS Technical discussions (comp.sys.atari.st.tech)
3   TOS Announcements (Moderated) (comp.sys.atari.announce)
4   TOS Programming discussions (comp.sys.atari.programmer)
5   Flame City (comp.sys.atari.advocacy)
6   German Atari discussions (de.comp.sys.st)
7   French Atari discussions (fr.comp.sys.atari)
8   General Atari Videogames Discussion (rec.games.video.atari)
9   Jaguar Discussion  (alt.atari-jaguar.discussion)
10  Lynx Discussion (rec.games.lynx)
11  8-bit General Discussion (comp.sys.atari.8bit)

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You should be able to access these through any Internet provider.  On Delphi you can access them through the main Internet SIG, but I always access them from the Atari Advantage menu (Delphi credits online time to the Atari SIG that way).


George Iken is a member of the Houston Atari Computer Enthusiasts, an
active Atari user group in Houston.  He can be contacted at HACE, PO Box
820335, Houston TX 77282-0335.

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