Info-Atari16 Digest Mon, 20 Jan 92 Volume 92 : Issue 30 Today's Topics: 1 Meg 520 ST with 2sided floppy for sale: ALL OFFERS CONSIDERED Atari developer documentation Atari ST Hardware and Software ForSale Common Lisp (2 msgs) Gnustuff updates HELP needed (UNIX arc,zoo.lharc : gdb : ST as typewriter) I'd like a CPX to... (2 msgs) IBM software emulator I cant get Zoo to work! jrd-emacs-probs Still in search of SCSI tape software Stuck in Knightmare Unzooing big files on one drive WANTED: Atari ST sequencing software... What to do? (2 msgs) Zmodem and UNIX Welcome to the Info-Atari16 Digest. The configuration for the automatic cross-posting to/from Usenet is getting closer, but still getting thrashed out. Please send notifications about broken digests or bogus messages to Info-Atari16-Request@NAUCSE.CSE.NAU.EDU. Please send requests for un/subscription and other administrivia to Info-Atari16-Request, *NOT* Info-Atari16. Requests that go to the list instead of the moderators are likely to be lost or ignored. If you want to unsubscribe, and you're receiving the digest indirectly from someplace (usually a BITNET host) that redistributes it, please contact the redistributor, not us. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: 20 Jan 92 18:00:52 GMT From: alvin!ravi@mcnc.org (Ravi Subrahmanyan) Subject: 1 Meg 520 ST with 2sided floppy for sale: ALL OFFERS CONSIDERED To: Info-Atari16@naucse.cse.nau.edu For Sale: 520 ST (Atari) 1 Meg RAM, Mono monitor, C compiler, 50 disks --------- Make me an offer, this machine is sitting around doing nothing and I'd rather see it used for something! All reasonable offers are acceptable. $400 or best offer 520 ST with 1 Meg RAM (68000 processor) Atari's great black-on-white monitor, 640x480. 1 double sided floppy drive 1 single sided floppy drive Mark Williams C compiler 50 disks with all sorts of software Ravi Subrahmanyan ravi@ace4.sps.mot.com (512) 345-4187 (home), (512) 928-7371 (work) ------------------------------ Date: 20 Jan 92 08:07:05 GMT From: mcsun!sun4nl!ahds!geert@uunet.uu.net (Geert W.T. Jonkheer CCS/TS) Subject: Atari developer documentation To: Info-Atari16@naucse.cse.nau.edu In article <10238@cactus.org>, covert@cactus.org (Richard Covert) writes: > In article <1992Jan17.075620.6104@mnemosyne.cs.du.edu> mmiller@isis.cs.du.edu (Mark Miller) writes: > >This is truly a great event in the history of Atari, since the > >Tramiels took over anyway. I believe there was such documentation > > Well this is truly a great thing, it is just a little too late!! > Well, maybe it helps to place all the documentation to the net. There are so many readers, who are interested in it, I think. Maybe this is the only and fair way to get the documentation. What about other opinions? Geert. -- ================================================================================ ============ Geert W.T. Jonkheer. ============= ========== Ahold N.V. The Netherlands geert@ccsds.ahold.nl ========== =================================================================== ------------------------------ Date: 20 Jan 92 15:59:41 GMT From: zephyr.ens.tek.com!vice!keithr@uunet.uu.net (U.D.M.) Subject: Atari ST Hardware and Software ForSale To: Info-Atari16@naucse.cse.nau.edu I have the following hardware and software for sale. Prices DO NOT include shipping. Add $2.00 for first class shipping on software or $3.00 for second day air. Shipping on hardware depends on where you live. Please respond via e-mail so I can make sure first come, first served. Thank you. Hardware -------- Atari 1040ST with Color Monitor 450.00 with Monochrome Monitor 350.00 *Note: I only have one ST and two monitors. I'll be selling the monitor not sold with the system seperately later. Supra 20Mb hard drive 200.00 shoe box style Graphics Applications --------------------- Migraph Touch Up 50.00 Migraph Easy Draw 2.3 40.00 with Easy Tools Print Master Plus 15.00 with Fonts and Borders Publisher ST 35.00 Degas Elite 15.00 Games ----- Eagles Nest 10.00 Leader Board Golf 10.00 Star Trek - The Rebel Universe 10.00 Word Processors --------------- Word Writer 25.00 Haba Writer 5.00 with Haba Spell Spreadsheets ------------ LDW Power 50.00 Analyze 5.00 Accounting ---------- Phaser 4.01 30.00 Home Accountant 5.00 Programming Languages --------------------- Mark Williams C v 3.0 50.00 with csd source debugger Desk Acc -------- Migraph OSpooler 15.00 G+Plus 15.00 Codehead Multi-Desk 10.00 Communications -------------- Flash 1.6 10.00 ST-Talk 5.00 Game Creator Software --------------------- STOS Game Creator 15.00 TaleSpin 15.00 Misc Stuff ---------- Migraph DeskJet GDOS Driver 20.00 with 3 150/300dpi fonts Michtron Backup 5.00 Typing Tutor 5.00 Universal Item Selector II 7.00 Music Studio (color only) 5.00 Fontz 10.00 Turbo ST 10.00 Word Quest 10.00 Word Quest 2 Neo Desk 2.0 10.00 Keith Rast keithr@icogem3.ICO.TEK.COM ------------------------------ Date: 20 Jan 92 12:02:21 GMT From: otter.hpl.hp.com!hpltoad!ghiggins!gjh@hplabs.hp.com (Graham Higgins) Subject: Common Lisp To: Info-Atari16@naucse.cse.nau.edu > There is an English version of CLISP, I thought it's already at > atari.archive. But if it's not, you can get it via anonymous ftp from > ma2s2.mathematik.uni-karlsruhe.de in pub/atari/clisp. There is also > an archive of examples, including CLOSETTE (by Xerox) which is an > implementation of a (quite big) subset of CLOS. In general CLISP is > still a first edition implementation (of Steel, I mean). I have the version currently on a.a which has German messages. I see that there is a clisp-e.arc on the Karlsruhe archive which I am attempting to d/l at the moment. I will sling it up to a.a if/when I manage to get it d/led. I will also try to get the examples. > The e-mail adress of one of the authors, Bruno Haible, is > haible@ma2s2.mathematik.uni-karlsruhe.de. Many thanks for the information. -- Graham Higgins << My opinions above are exactly that: my own, and opinions. >> ------------------------------ Date: 20 Jan 92 13:11:56 GMT From: otter.hpl.hp.com!hpltoad!ghiggins!gjh@hplabs.hp.com (Graham Higgins) Subject: Common Lisp To: Info-Atari16@naucse.cse.nau.edu I wrote: > I have the version currently on a.a which has German messages. I see that > there is a clisp-e.arc on the Karlsruhe archive which I am attempting to d/l > at the moment. I will sling it up to a.a if/when I manage to get it d/led. > > I will also try to get the examples. I have sucessfully uploaded both files to atari.archive. Interested parties should look for clisp-e.arc and examples.zoo in %ftp/atari/languages. -- Graham Higgins << My opinions above are exactly that: my own, and opinions. >> ------------------------------ Date: 20 Jan 92 13:28:14 GMT From: otter.hpl.hp.com!hpltoad!ghiggins!gjh@hplabs.hp.com (Graham Higgins) Subject: Gnustuff updates To: Info-Atari16@naucse.cse.nau.edu ++jrb has released the following GNU s/w update which now appears on atari.archive in directory %ftp/atari/gnustuff/tos/updates as "update14.zoo". ++jrb comments: ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ If you use mintlib and not tos lib (or if you use both) then you should be paying attention to changes in the following library files and merging the changes into the corresponding files in mintlib yourself, or you may wish to wait for Eric to release an updated version. main.c, unlink.c, fread.c, scanf.c (replace with this file), atof.c, crt0.c, gmon.c, malloc.c, sbrk.c, isatty.c, unistd.h, mkdir.c. see the Changelog diffs to see what the changes were. Of course the changes in gemlib, pml, curses, etc are all applicable to both tos and MiNT users. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ AFAIK, none of these updates have been applied to the archives in gnustuff/tos Archive update14.zoo: Length CF Size Now Date Time -------- --- -------- --------- ----- 1958 46% 1056 15 Jan 92 11:33 ./README (V2.1) 209843 52% 100512 15 Jan 92 11:33 ./gdb/gdb.ttp (V2.1) 979 80% 199 15 Jan 92 11:33 ./gdb/init.c (V2.1) 211294 80% 43090 15 Jan 92 11:33 ./gdb/diffs (V2.1) 1682 59% 696 15 Jan 92 11:33 ./curses/diffs (V2.1) 5734 72% 1603 15 Jan 92 11:33 ./util/diffs (V2.1) 3837 67% 1284 15 Jan 92 11:33 ./pml/diffs (V2.1) 2889 55% 1304 15 Jan 92 11:33 ./include/gdbm.h (V2.1) 15568 71% 4587 15 Jan 92 11:33 ./include/diffh (V2.1) 347 34% 230 15 Jan 92 11:33 ./include/sys/timeb.h (V2.1) 848 55% 380 15 Jan 92 11:33 ./lib/timeoday.c (V2.1) 491 43% 279 15 Jan 92 11:33 ./lib/getpass.c (V2.1) 699 42% 403 15 Jan 92 11:33 ./lib/binmode.c (V2.1) 11532 68% 3693 15 Jan 92 11:33 ./lib/scanf.c (V2.1) 16755 64% 6073 15 Jan 92 11:33 ./lib/unx2dos.c (V2.1) 47944 67% 15816 15 Jan 92 11:33 ./lib/diffc (V2.1) 642 55% 286 15 Jan 92 11:33 ./flex/flexdef.hdiff (V2.1) 965 64% 346 15 Jan 92 11:33 ./bc/scanl.diff (V2.1) 4541 62% 1717 15 Jan 92 11:33 ./bc/Makefile.st (V2.1) 1478 71% 435 15 Jan 92 11:33 ./gcc/gcc.cdiff (V2.1) 8437 71% 2427 15 Jan 92 11:33 ./gemlib/vdibez.c (V2.1) 19176 73% 5131 15 Jan 92 11:33 ./gemlib/diffs (V2.1) 16330 70% 4963 15 Jan 92 11:33 ./gemlib/vdiesc1.c (V2.1) 258 31% 177 15 Jan 92 11:33 ./gmp/diffs (V2.1) 13454 77% 3085 15 Jan 92 11:33 ./gmp/Makefile.st (V2.1) 320 46% 172 15 Jan 92 11:33 ./Documentation/gcc-st.diff (V2.1) 630 43% 361 15 Jan 92 11:33 ./881/_fixunsd.s (V2.1) 2919 63% 1090 15 Jan 92 11:33 ./gdbm/Makefile.st (V2.1) 4645 69% 1418 15 Jan 92 11:33 ./gdbm/atari.diffs (V2.1) 1048 73% 286 15 Jan 92 11:33 ./xbra/fig1.fig (V2.1) 1232 76% 298 15 Jan 92 11:33 ./xbra/fig2.fig (V2.1) 1111 70% 332 15 Jan 92 11:33 ./xbra/fig1.tex (V2.1) 1349 73% 364 15 Jan 92 11:33 ./xbra/fig2.tex (V2.1) 19002 63% 7021 15 Jan 92 11:33 ./xbra/xbra.tex (V2.1) 313 47% 165 15 Jan 92 11:33 ./xbra/Makefile (V2.1) 28025 55% 12492 15 Jan 92 11:33 ./xbra/xbra.list (V2.1) -------- --- -------- --------- ----- 658275 66% 223771 36 files ------------ V: minimum version of Zoo needed to extract this file. Cheers, -- Graham Higgins << My opinions above are exactly that: my own, and opinions. >> ------------------------------ Date: 20 Jan 92 14:58:03 GMT From: mnemosyne.cs.du.edu!isis.cs.du.edu!jbunch@uunet.uu.net (John Bunch) Subject: HELP needed (UNIX arc,zoo.lharc : gdb : ST as typewriter) To: Info-Atari16@naucse.cse.nau.edu In article <1992Jan17.121414.12486@bradford.ac.uk> A.J.Leaper@bradford.ac.uk (AJ.LEAPER) writes: >In article <9201161155.AA23501@v1.cm.cf.ac.uk> Andrew.Stratton@cm.cf.ac.uk (Andrew F Stratton) writes: >> >> Can anyone help with :- >> >> 1. Are there versions of arc, zoo, lharc that run on SUN 4's or VAX? >> > >On the SUN system here at the University we have arc and zoo they both run >on SUN 4's. > >I'm not sure where you would get hold of arc but I got a Unix version of zoo >from the NPDSA at Lancaster University. In the directory /tools they have >UNIX and VMS versions of zoo v2.1 (latest version). > >I've not seen a version of lharc for Unix but I and a number of people that >I know would be interested in hearing if anybody out there has got a version. > >Andy >(88648967@uk.ac.bradford) I have a version of lharc and Zip/Unzip that are running on the unix machine here and on my machine at work(Sun Sparc 1+). I can dig up the sites that I ftp'ed the source from.. I will post it in a couple of days... John Bunch. {line eater} {More of the same} ------------------------------ Date: 20 Jan 92 12:35:30 GMT From: mcsun!uknet!ox-prg!adrian@uunet.uu.net (Adrian Cox) Subject: I'd like a CPX to... To: Info-Atari16@naucse.cse.nau.edu There are two CPXs I'd like to have. I don't know if these have been written, and if they're available, as archie searches are difficult without a filename. If these exist, and are available for anonymous ftp (or mail server, as our name server isn't working yet so I can't use Terminator) please tell me. 1. Disk step rate control. I have one 5 1/4" drive and one 3 1/2" drive, and I'd like to set a 6ms step rate for the 5 1/4". 2. Boot up control. I'm currently using a desk accessory and auto program called Autoload which loads AUTO programs from a list, so that they don't have to be in the AUTO folder of drive C. Is there a CPX based version of the same trick, to save slots? Thanx, Adrian -- Adrian Cox, | This is yet another self referential signature. Robotics Research Group, | Engineering Science Dept,| I tried, as only a chimneypot can try... Oxford, UK. | ------------------------------ Date: 20 Jan 92 14:51:49 GMT From: mcsun!uknet!warwick!cstdxas@uunet.uu.net (Leo Hendry) Subject: I'd like a CPX to... To: Info-Atari16@naucse.cse.nau.edu I like to know how to write a CPX, where can I get details of the file format? With this information I can have those to programs written by tomorrow. ------------------------------ Date: 20 Jan 92 15:15:07 GMT From: mcsun!uknet!stl!dsbc!ozz!jas@uunet.uu.net (Jason Morris) Subject: IBM software emulator To: Info-Atari16@naucse.cse.nau.edu Out of interest, surely it would be possible to compile from a disassembled version of the PC program. Wouldn't this just be compilation of a different language? Just my 2 ECUs worth, Jas. -- ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ | Jason Morris jas@oasis.icl.co.uk +44 344 424842 ext 2662 | | ICL Computers Ltd, BRA01, Lovelace Rd, Bracknell, Berks, England. | ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ | I do not speak for ICL. I speak for everyone... | ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ ------------------------------ Date: 20 Jan 92 17:31:50 GMT From: noao!asuvax!ncar!elroy.jpl.nasa.gov!sdd.hp.com!news.cs.indiana.edu!umn.edu!cs.u mn.edu!thelake!steve@arizona.edu (Steve Yelvington) Subject: I cant get Zoo to work! To: Info-Atari16@naucse.cse.nau.edu [In article <9201192315.aa15112@Bonnie.ics.uci.edu>, ehohnbau@Bonnie.ICS.UCI.EDU writes ... ] > After I click on zoo.ttp and the the parameter box I tried: > > x zooboy.zoo > x zooboy > x [aA]:[\] zooboy[.zoo] > In other words, I tried both with and without the .zoo extender > on every other option, and I tried both upper and lower case on the > drive option, and with and without the backslash. > > The only thing that happens is that it takes me right back to the > GEM desktop. You didn't mention what model of ST or what version of TOS you're using. >From your description, I'll bet lunch that the TOS version is < 1.4. Old TOS converts .TTP arguments to upper case. That won't work with ZOO. (If you were using a command interpreter shell, such as Gulam or Mupfel, you would not have a problem.) I'm mailing you, separately, a copy of ZOOSHELL that is archived with ARC.TTP. You should be able to extract it using any version of ARC, and then ZOO should be easy to use. -- Steve Yelvington, Marine on St. Croix, Minnesota Note: Mail to the .mn.org domain has been failing for about a month. If your mail bounces, try cs.umn.edu!thelake!steve. It's probably another side effect of the Super Bowl. (I'm praying for a blizzard on Super Sunday.) ------------------------------ Date: 20 Jan 92 14:19:31 GMT From: mcsun!unido!sbsvax!oliver@uunet.uu.net (Oliver van Sprang) Subject: jrd-emacs-probs To: Info-Atari16@naucse.cse.nau.edu using jrd's gnu-emacs on a mega2 under a gulam shell we got the following problems - It is impossible to enter characters like \ [] {} a.s.o. - it is not possible to start a shell running as a subprocess. After setting ESHELL to d:gu.prg (i use gulaem as cli and set everything like you wrote in readme.jrd and entering M-x shell i got symbol's definition is void: get-buffer-process If anyone knows how to overcome these problems, or where to get 18.57 for the atari i would be glad to receive your answer as e-mail. Thanks in advance oliver@cs.uni-sb.de -- Oliver van Sprang FB 14-Informatik Universitaet des Saarlandes Im Stadtwald 15 E-mail: oliver@cs.uni-sb.de Telefon: 0681 302 4165 ------------------------------ Date: 20 Jan 92 14:59:00 GMT From: STONY-BROOK.SCRC.SYMBOLICS.COM!jrd@ucbvax.berkeley.edu (John R. Dunning) Subject: Still in search of SCSI tape software To: Info-Atari16@naucse.cse.nau.edu I'm still looking for software to drive a generic SCSI tapedrive through an ICD host adapter. My last query to the net turned up a bunch of responses referencing a TSR and backup application written by Paul Moreau, but alas, none of the people that had a copy were willing to ship it to me, and nobody seems to know where I could get hold of sources for it. Does anybody have sources for this thing, or anything else that's able to talk to SCSI devices? A related question; is the panarthea archive server still in business? I can't seem to get a response from it recently. Is there another place that archives comp.sources.atari? As before, please respond via e-mail. Thanks in advance for any software or info. ------------------------------ Date: 20 Jan 92 16:15:55 GMT From: mcsun!uknet!warwick!nott-cs!mjb@uunet.uu.net (M J Brownlow) Subject: Stuck in Knightmare To: Info-Atari16@naucse.cse.nau.edu I'm stuck in Knightmare (Bloody obvious from the subject line!!) on the quest for the sword (Quest 3) at the riddle "When is a well not a well?" I have done the rest of the level its on, and got a gold coin from the jester in the fireball room. Any help anyone??? If anyone needs help from earlier in the game, I can help. ------------------------------ Date: 20 Jan 92 09:33:21 GMT From: mcsun!uknet!edcastle!hwcs!neil@uunet.uu.net (Neil Forsyth) Subject: Unzooing big files on one drive To: Info-Atari16@naucse.cse.nau.edu In article <1992Jan15.132654.6403@fwi.uva.nl> storm@fwi.uva.nl (Richard G.C. Storm (I89)) writes: >Can anybody tell me how to unzoo a acrhived program(500 K) if >you have only one drive. > >Zoo.ttp and the file just fit on the disk. > >Is using the file in a ram-disk a solution then tell me please >how to redirect the unpacked files to drive A. If the unpacked files are >written on the ram disk is runs out of memory . The trick I use on such occasions when my HD isn't switched on is to open two windows. One with the archive and archiver and the other empty to receive the data. Make the empty drive the active window and so the current directory. Hold down the right hand mouse button and double click with the left button on the archiver. This allows you to start up an application from the non-active window. Specify the exact path, including drive, to the TTP commandline then press return. Some experimentation with RAM disc size may be necessary. Or use a shell ... +----------------------------------------------------------------------------+ ! DISCLAIMER:Unless otherwise stated, the above comments are entirely my own ! ! ! ! Neil Forsyth JANET: neil@uk.ac.hw.cs ! ! Dept. of Computer Science ARPA: neil@cs.hw.ac.uk ! ! Heriot-Watt University UUCP: ..!ukc!cs.hw.ac.uk!neil ! ! Edinburgh, Scotland, UK "That was never 5 minutes!" ! +----------------------------------------------------------------------------+ ------------------------------ Date: 20 Jan 92 15:31:04 GMT From: aurs01!whitcomb@mcnc.org (Jonathan Whitcomb) Subject: WANTED: Atari ST sequencing software... To: Info-Atari16@naucse.cse.nau.edu In article ad0834@csc.albany.edu (Andy Dickinson) writes: >Hi - > > I'm looking to buy a MIDI sequencer for my Atari ST. If >anyone has one they'd like to sell, please e-mail me... A few years ago Intelligent Music put out an interesting sequencer called "RealTime" that gives you virtually unlimited number of tracks (you run out of tracks when you run out of memory) and lots of unusual and interesting features. Dr.T's Music software took over distribution of many of Intelligent Music's products (including 'M', the interactive composing tool), and is now offering a closeout on RealTime if you order directly from them. It originally sold for $200+, and now they are selling it for $80. I got a copy, and while I will continue to use KCS Omega as my primary sequencer, RealTime offers some interesting options and variation for those times when I want to experiment or be a little more 'spontaneous' than I can be with KCS. You can order from Dr.T's directly at (617) 455-1454. ********************************************************************** Jonathan Whitcomb UUCP: Alcatel Network Systems Delphi: JBWHIT Raleigh, NC GEnie: J.WHITCOMB3 ------------------------------ Date: 20 Jan 92 12:19:21 GMT From: noao!ncar!asuvax!cs.utexas.edu!qt.cs.utexas.edu!yale.edu!think.com!wupost!waika to.ac.nz!comp.vuw.ac.nz!actrix!Roger.Sheppard@arizona.edu (Roger Sheppard) Subject: What to do? To: Info-Atari16@naucse.cse.nau.edu In article <1992Jan20.011530.156@demon.co.uk> Keith Sommerville writes: > Have you looked more closely at the HD in your TT? I have the same spec TT as > you and the label on the bottom of the TT says 8Mb/40Mb. The drive was partiti- > onedi > into 4 10Meg partitions. However, looking at it with ICD software revealed tha- > t it was > it was a 48.5 meg drive. Why do Atari hide something like that, or is it just - > a one > one off? Yes these are Seagate ST157N drives, not as fast as the New Quantum LPS105S.. -- *** Roger W. Sheppard * Roger.Sheppard@bbs.actrix.gen.nz *** *** 85 Donovan Rd * * GEnie. R.SHEPPARD5 *** *** Kapiti At least I don't Flicker, *** *** New Zealand.. * not like a dying light globe *** ------------------------------ Date: 20 Jan 92 17:38:32 GMT From: cantaloupe.srv.cs.cmu.edu!crabapple.srv.cs.cmu.edu!andrew.cmu.edu!mg20+@cs.roch ester.edu (Michael Paul Greelish) Subject: What to do? To: Info-Atari16@naucse.cse.nau.edu gfarrell@tomato.csil.sfu.ca (Gordon James Farrell) writes: "...According to the January, 1992 issue of AtariUser, the TT040 will _show_ this spring at CeBIT, but won't actually hit the shelf until 12 to 18 months after that. Regarding "broadcast graphics resolution", that probably means something like 1024x768, like the supposedly upcoming 24-bit board mentioned in c.s.atari.st.tech (I hope it's true, and also available for a "humble" TT030 :-) )." What to do: Pick up a copy of the January 1992 issue of _AmigaWorld_. (gasp!) Read the articles on '040 accelerators for $2500 or so. Look at the ads for 24-bit, up to 1280x1024 graphics boards, RAM boards with up to 64 Meg, desktop-video boards, and tons and tons of very groovy graphics software. Also, take a look at a Mac Quadra or an Amiga 3000/25 at your local computer store, which by this point is denying that Atari ever existed. Weep for the state of Atari product design and marketing. Flames are expected but not particularly appreciated. ______________________________________________________ Mike Greelish mg20@andrew.cmu.edu Carnegie Mellon University, Professional Writing major "...but unfortunately, SHIT AIN'T LIKE THAT!" ---"Body Count", Body Count featuring Ice-T ------------------------------ Date: 20 Jan 92 15:09:52 GMT From: mnemosyne.cs.du.edu!isis.cs.du.edu!jbunch@uunet.uu.net (John Bunch) Subject: Zmodem and UNIX To: Info-Atari16@naucse.cse.nau.edu In article <1992Jan17.151004.9116@ericsson.se> etmelag@sunbeam15.ericsson.se (Louis Lagendijk) writes: >In article <1992Jan17.033327.4435@cco.caltech.edu> remyh@cco.caltech.edu (Remy Adam Hathaway) writes: >>I'm having trouble sending and receiving files using zmodem. Here's my setup: >> >> I'm on a 1040ST, running Uniterm. I'm hooked up to a 9600 baud port >>of a network server that is hooked up to a Sun Sparcstation running SunOS 4.1. >>I've tried xyz2.01, sz and rz 1.7 and 1.8. I've occasionally had success with >>them, but very little. When I use sz/rz, I get 'bad subpacket' length, though >>I've altered packet lengths to kingdom-come. When I use xyz, I get 'bad file >>number' or something, which says in the docs that it's 'A serious bug in XYZ >>or TOS.' >> I've turned Xon/Xoff on and off, tried the -e option with sz on the >>UNIX end, etc. Any suggestions? >> >> Sick of Kermit, >> remyh@cco.caltech.edu >> >Yes, it looks like your network server messes around with the >data. It either removes or translates certain characters in >either direction. Try kermit with the 7-bit option, and check >whether that helps. >Cheers, Louis I have a 9600 dialup connection to a decserver and connect to a sun at work, and I have a few things I have to do to get zmodem to work. First I call up and connect to the server, then I connect to the sun. After I am logged in I go back to the server and set the session to passall. I go back to the session and then run zmodem like so: sz -w 2048 filename.ext It works fine for me.. I get an average throughput of 1100 cps.... Hope this helps??? Oh, the server is a decserver.... John Bunch. ------------------------------ End of Info-Atari16 Digest ******************************