Info-Atari16 Digest Fri, 27 Dec 91 Volume 91 : Issue 676 Today's Topics: CFN chat 11:00 AM EST Friday Color Emulators and the ste.... Deleting a folder with illegal name FTP dir on dsrgsun.ces.cwru.edu: NOPE History of Atari Holiday Greetings Interface to use Okimate 20 with the STe. Printer CPX (2 msgs) problem unpacking c.b.a.s articles (2 msgs) Quick ST support (4 msgs) Rom-moth? SM124 emualtor Termcaps help... TOS 2.06 (2 msgs) Which is better to run for ST acceleration? Welcome to the Info-Atari16 Digest. The configuration for the automatic cross-posting to/from Usenet is getting closer, but still getting thrashed out. Please send notifications about broken digests or bogus messages to Info-Atari16-Request@NAUCSE.CSE.NAU.EDU. Please send requests for un/subscription and other administrivia to Info-Atari16-Request, *NOT* Info-Atari16. Requests that go to the list instead of the moderators are likely to be lost or ignored. If you want to unsubscribe, and you're receiving the digest indirectly from someplace (usually a BITNET host) that redistributes it, please contact the redistributor, not us. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: 27 Dec 91 01:39:48 GMT From: noao!asuvax!cs.utexas.edu!swrinde!mips!think.com!spool.mu.edu!agate!usenet.ins. cwru.edu!cleveland.Freenet.Edu!aa399@arizona.edu (Len Stys) Subject: CFN chat 11:00 AM EST Friday To: Info-Atari16@naucse.cse.nau.edu If you can make the Free-Net chat, it will be on Friday at 11:00 AM. The channel will be +AtariCon The TELNET address is 129.22.8.75 If you have an ID on Free-Net, you should login, go to the Free-Net terminal setting by "go terminal" and make sure it is set to "VT100" or "ANSI" or some kind of smart terminal that your program can emulate. After you set it, make sure your computer is set to the same. Then type "go cafe" and pick multi-user chat. You should then pick a nick name by "/nick (name)". Then choose the Atari Conference by typing "/join +AtariCon" If you don't have an ID and can telnet, you may want to get one for future conferences. This conference pertains to a letter a group of individuals are sending Atari to make sure Atari's next generation computers are the best that we believe they can be. See you there. Len -- ------------------------------ Date: 26 Dec 91 21:22:26 GMT From: mnemosyne.cs.du.edu!isis.cs.du.edu!jbunch@uunet.uu.net (John Bunch) Subject: Color Emulators and the ste.... To: Info-Atari16@naucse.cse.nau.edu Howdy all, I have a problem or two... I have a couple of games and a few programs that I would like to run, but they are color only. Now what I would like to know is if anybody knows of any color emulators that run on the STe with Tos 1.62? I have tried bigcolor, emumontr.lzh, omni-res, and emula 5.1. None of these seem to work. I get various problems with each. I have gfacolor.prg, but it only does low resolution. Any ideas out there on the net? John. -- John B Bunch * I don't want the world, I just want your 771 Madison Ave Apt.2e. * half.... -TMG Albany, NY 12208 * jbunch@isis.cs.du.edu (518) 436-3810 * UUCP: {...}!crdgw1!sixhub!myst!john ------------------------------ Date: 25 Dec 91 13:21:44 GMT From: noao!ncar!asuvax!ukma!hsdndev!spdcc!dirtydog.ima.isc.com!ispd-newsserver!psinnt p!rodan.acs.syr.edu!ggreenbe@arizona.edu (Gerald Greenberg) Subject: Deleting a folder with illegal name To: Info-Atari16@naucse.cse.nau.edu I seem to have named a folder with an illegal name (xxx_?) and now I cannot delete it. It can be opened, but nothing can be copied into it, and it cannot be renamed. I believe I saw a discussion of this long long ago...what do I need to do here? Thanks, Gerry ggreenbe@rodan.acs.syr.edu ------------------------------ Date: 26 Dec 91 16:06:05 GMT From: noao!asuvax!cs.utexas.edu!qt.cs.utexas.edu!yale.edu!spool.mu.edu!umn.edu!cs.umn .edu!lapis.labmed.umn.edu!davidli@arizona.edu Subject: FTP dir on dsrgsun.ces.cwru.edu: NOPE To: Info-Atari16@naucse.cse.nau.edu In article <23DEC199107041563@ral.arc.nasa.gov>, semra@ral.arc.nasa.gov (Donald George) writes: > out. I've been trying to access dsrgsun.ces.cwru.edu for access to the > atari archives that are (were?) there. .. > 1. Are there still archives there? No. NO. NO! There are no archives for the Atari ST on dsrgsun.ces.cwru.edu. Remove this Internet address from your Atari-related FTP lists. The person who maintained files at this address has MOVED ON. It was removed from the comp.sys.atari.st 'Welcome' posting a long time ago for that simple reason. I.E. You're wasting your time. If you want U.S. access to the most complete archive, use the Internet address atari.archive.umich.edu ... see any of the monthly postings which cover the atari.archive server. -- David Paschall-Zimbel davidli@simvax.labmed.umn.edu "The most important fact about Spaceship Earth: An instruction book didn't come with it." -- R. Buckminster Fuller ------------------------------ Date: 27 Dec 91 04:16:13 GMT From: noao!asuvax!cs.utexas.edu!qt.cs.utexas.edu!yale.edu!spool.mu.edu!agate!dog.ee.l bl.gov!nosc!crash!pnet01!trag@arizona.edu (Jim Trageser) Subject: History of Atari To: Info-Atari16@naucse.cse.nau.edu I'm writing a story on the history of Atari for San Diego's ComputorEdge magazine, and need some background information on some of the hardware (OK, most of the hardware. . . .) To wit: what differentiates the STfm and the STe from the straight ST? How are the Megas different (as well as Mega STe)? Was the 2600 game machine the first Atari home machine? Did Bushnell sell commercial arcade games before his home machines? What are the significant featuers of the XE/XL 8-bit machines? Thanks in advance for your e-mail responses! Happy Holidays, Jim UUCP: {hplabs!hp-sdd ucsd nosc}!crash!pnet01!trag ARPA: crash!pnet01!trag@nosc.mil INET: trag@pnet01.cts.com ------------------------------ Date: 24 Dec 91 21:28:51 EST From: Lawrence Estep <71450.1050@CompuServe.COM> Subject: Holiday Greetings To: *SysOp Bill Aycock <76703.4061@CompuServe.COM>, Best Wishes for a Safe and Happy Holiday Season and a Healthy and Prosperous New Year from the staff of Weather World Productions, ALERT Indiana, and our entire family. *> SEASON'S GREETINGS <* -Lawrence Estep Member of Atari Exchange of Louisville, Kentucky (AEL) ------------------------------ Date: 26 Dec 91 15:09:15 GMT From: mnemosyne.cs.du.edu!isis.cs.du.edu!jbunch@uunet.uu.net (John Bunch) Subject: Interface to use Okimate 20 with the STe. To: Info-Atari16@naucse.cse.nau.edu Greetings.. I have an Okimat20 printer and would like to use it with my atari STe. I need an Okimate20 to parallel port plug and print module. Anybody out there have one they are willing to sell? If so please send me email. Please send me mail at sixhub!myst!root@crdgw1.ge.com if possible. Thanx.. P.S. If you want to phone the number is (518) 436-3810 John. -- John B Bunch * I don't want the world, I just want your 771 Madison Ave Apt.2e. * half.... -TMG Albany, NY 12208 * jbunch@isis.cs.du.edu (518) 436-3810 * UUCP: {...}!crdgw1!sixhub!myst!john ------------------------------ Date: 24 Dec 91 08:25:45 GMT From: noao!ncar!elroy.jpl.nasa.gov!usc!cs.utexas.edu!wupost!micro-heart-of-gold.mit.e du!bu.edu!bucsf.bu.edu!selick@arizona.edu (Steven Selick) Subject: Printer CPX To: Info-Atari16@naucse.cse.nau.edu Is it me, or does the printer CPX supplied with the cpx arc file refuse to save a configuration of 960 dots per line? Has anybody else come across this problem? Any solutions? ------------------------------ Date: 26 Dec 91 01:44:47 GMT From: mcsun!uknet!slxsys!ibmpcug!demon!news@uunet.uu.net (Iain Laskey) Subject: Printer CPX To: Info-Atari16@naucse.cse.nau.edu The problem is not the CPX. The desktop,inf file does not save the printer information correctly. I have a small program I put in my autofolder to set it- to 960 ############################### # Iain R Laskey # # ilaskey@cix.compulink.co.uk # ############################### ------------------------------ Date: 23 Dec 91 15:47:22 GMT From: mcsun!sun4nl!hp4nl!tedux!alice.hobby.nl!harold@uunet.uu.net (Harold van Aalderen) Subject: problem unpacking c.b.a.s articles To: Info-Atari16@naucse.cse.nau.edu HELP HELP HELP This is a strong cry for help! Problem: All arrived encoded archives are handeled badly bad appropiate unpack program (arc6.02 and arc521c, xlharc(Shroka's version1.2, zoo2.1 and zoo2.0) I use the decode program: uud version 3.4 25-nov-1988 I also have a self extracting archive that refuses to unpack because my TOS (1.4 on a MegaST 4Mb) refuses to recognize it as a program. Any ideas why all unpackers suddenly seem to be incompatible with their own archives? Before a few months ago I never had any trouble at all I always had some archiver that was able to unpack the things I received and as far as I know I have all the different versions of all unpackers of the last 4 years! What uudecode program should I use Steven? Please reply by email! -- Harold van Aalderen | harold@alice.hobby.nl | {...!mcsun}!hp4nl!hgatenl!tedux!alice!harold alice: She's not the neighbour girl nor is she living in wonderland Who it is? For me to know for you to guess. ------------------------------ Date: 25 Dec 91 04:46:04 GMT From: noao!ncar!elroy.jpl.nasa.gov!usc!wupost!tripos!downey@arizona.edu (Tom Downey) Subject: problem unpacking c.b.a.s articles To: Info-Atari16@naucse.cse.nau.edu harold@alice.hobby.nl (Harold van Aalderen) writes: >HELP HELP HELP >This is a strong cry for help! >Problem: All arrived encoded archives are handeled badly bad appropiate > unpack program (arc6.02 and arc521c, xlharc(Shroka's version1.2, > zoo2.1 and zoo2.0) >I use the decode program: uud version 3.4 25-nov-1988 I also have problems with uud. Can anyone help? Tom Downey downey@tripos.com ------------------------------ Date: 26 Dec 91 22:55:43 GMT From: fs7.ece.cmu.edu!crabapple.srv.cs.cmu.edu!andrew.cmu.edu!mc4c+@sei.cmu.edu (Mark Choi) Subject: Quick ST support To: Info-Atari16@naucse.cse.nau.edu Excerpts from netnews.comp.sys.atari.st: 20-Dec-91 Re: Quick ST support Steve Whitney@flatcat.wp (1407) > Yeah, that's like saying, "The service at my bank is terrible, I think > I'll pull > my money out." Ridiculous, ism't it, Bob? No it ain't. It's like saying that my bank gives me poor service and a shitty interest rate, and there is another bank that has ok service, but who are rude, and have a high interest rate. Atari has poor perfomance compared to QuickST, and the service to users from atari is a joke. just try to call them or email them with a question. Dereck has had good support for his product, and his product has GREAT performance. Some feel he is rude. Bob's point is... SO WHAT?. I agree. if quick ST has had good support in the past(it hs) and if it is cheap (it is) and if it is good (it is) then to not buy it on account of the views of the programmer, while valiantly moral, is a bit foolish. -mark ------------------------------ Date: 26 Dec 91 23:02:56 GMT From: fs7.ece.cmu.edu!crabapple.srv.cs.cmu.edu!andrew.cmu.edu!mc4c+@sei.cmu.edu (Mark Choi) Subject: Quick ST support To: Info-Atari16@naucse.cse.nau.edu Excerpts from netnews.comp.sys.atari.st: 20-Dec-91 Re: Quick ST support John Paul Pietrzak@uxa.c (1641) > Actually, I still use TurboST every day, and am quite satisified with > it. If you can find a store selling some of the older software (say > like MicroTime, in my home town :) I would think that TurboST could > still compete with Quick ST in this market. Perhaps Quick ST has finally > become faster, but up to now I've still heard about more compatibility > problems with it than with Turbo. Actually, Turbo has just about always had more compatibility problems than QST, aside from taking a valuable .ACC slot (Thanks DRI for only giving 6) Also QST has always been faster, in the contemporary release, than Turbo. I know, I've used many incarnations of both, and have even had both installed at the same time. mark ------------------------------ Date: 27 Dec 91 01:42:03 GMT From: sgi!odin!flatcat.wpd.sgi.com!stever@ames.arpa (Steve Whitney) Subject: Quick ST support To: Info-Atari16@naucse.cse.nau.edu In article , mc4c+@andrew.cmu.edu (Mark Choi) writes: |> Excerpts from netnews.comp.sys.atari.st: 20-Dec-91 Re: Quick ST |> support |> Steve Whitney@flatcat.wp (1407) |> |> |> > Yeah, that's like saying, "The service at my bank is terrible, I |> think |> > I'll pull |> > my money out." Ridiculous, ism't it, Bob? |> |> No it ain't. It's like saying that my bank gives me poor service and |> a |> shitty interest rate, and there is another bank that has ok service, |> but |> who are rude, and have a high interest rate. |> Atari has poor perfomance compared to QuickST, and the service to |> users |> from atari is a joke. just try to call them or email them with a |> question. Dereck has had good support for his product, and his |> product |> has GREAT performance. Some feel he is rude. Bob's point is... SO |> WHAT?. |> I agree. if quick ST has had good support in the past(it hs) and if |> it |> is cheap (it is) and if it is good (it is) then to not buy it on |> account |> of the views of the programmer, while valiantly moral, is a bit |> foolish. Look. My reasons for not wanting to purchase anthing from Branch Always have nothing to do with "rudeness." I have heard horror stories about customners whose checks were cashed for fixes that didn't correct the problem they were having, people told "tough" when they had a problem, etc. These are _support_ issues_ not the "views of the programmer." Besides, there are other ways to increase screen performance including Turbo ST, processor accelerators, and the blitter as has alreay been pointed out. --Steve Whitney / Silicon Graphics OS Group |> |> |> |> -mark ------------------------------ Date: 27 Dec 91 01:43:52 GMT From: noao!asuvax!cs.utexas.edu!swrinde!mips!sgi!odin!flatcat.wpd.sgi.com!stever@ariz ona.edu (Steve Whitney) Subject: Quick ST support To: Info-Atari16@naucse.cse.nau.edu P.S. You also took my quote out of context and made it appear to have almost the opposite meaning. That sarcastic snippet was followed by statements supporting it which negated your "followup." --Steve Whitney / Silicon Graphics OS Group ------------------------------ Date: 26 Dec 91 22:14:55 GMT From: mcsun!sun4nl!nikhefk!paulm@uunet.uu.net (Paul Molenaar) Subject: Rom-moth? To: Info-Atari16@naucse.cse.nau.edu Hi, My dear brother owns an Atari 1040ST and suddenly experienced some weird problems. As I do not operate any Atari myself, I'm not familiar with the symptoms, but I have verified the situation. About a year and a half ago, I upgraded his machine to the new TOS (probably old by now) which enabled drive to read and write IBM compatible diskettes. Everything worked fine. But all of a sudden this stopped working. The diskettes the Atari produces are unreadble on a PC. I had to run Norton on the floppy to 'repair' it. Norton claims the disk have a wrong media descriptor byte. I thought that was the problem with the old TOS! Any clues? I'm baffled! Paul Molenaar ------------------------------ Date: 25 Dec 91 15:20:09 GMT From: IFI.UIO.NO!larserio@ucbvax.berkeley.edu (LarsErikOsterud) Subject: SM124 emualtor To: Info-Atari16@naucse.cse.nau.edu My friend has a TT with a bigscreen monitor (monochrome) and has some problems running software made for ST-MEDIUM and ST-HIGH only. I have heard something about a SM124 emulator for the TT, does anyone know more? Lars-Erik / Registered Developer / ABK-BBS +47 2132659 / ____ ______ 0sterud / w/ Atari Scandinavia / larserio@ifi.uio.no / /___ / __________/ _______________________/ ______________________/ ____/ / ------------------------------ Date: 25 Dec 91 01:43:51 GMT From: world!tknauer@uunet.uu.net (Thomas Knauer) Subject: Termcaps help... To: Info-Atari16@naucse.cse.nau.edu Hi, chu@acsu.buffalo.edu (john c chu) writes: >Hi, >I just downloaded the tcsh port as well as version 18.57 of GNU Emacs >from atari.archive. >Can someone please give me a Termcap entry that'll allow me to fully >use tcsh (i.e., arrow keys, at least?) as well as convince Emacs that >my terminal (i.e., the Atari ST) is powerful enough to run Emacs? >Or is there something more serious that is wrong (i.e., common mistake >during installation?) >Please reply by email. ~~~~~~ no !! Not only by email please, because I've the same problem ... "... terminal 'atari' is not powerful enough to run emacs..." Thx, Thomas ------------------------------ Date: 25 Dec 91 14:23:06 GMT From: IFI.UIO.NO!larserio@ucbvax.berkeley.edu (LarsErikOsterud) Subject: TOS 2.06 To: Info-Atari16@naucse.cse.nau.edu Does anyone know where I can buy TOS 2.06 for my MEGA STE ? It MUST be in English, and should be 50Hz (but 60Hz will do) E-mail adress or normal adress would be fine. Price too. Lars-Erik / Registered Developer / ABK-BBS +47 2132659 / ____ ______ 0sterud / w/ Atari Scandinavia / larserio@ifi.uio.no / /___ / __________/ _______________________/ ______________________/ ____/ / ------------------------------ Date: 25 Dec 91 22:47:14 GMT From: apple!portal!cup.portal.com!Bob_BobR_Retelle@ames.arpa Subject: TOS 2.06 To: Info-Atari16@naucse.cse.nau.edu Lars-Erik Osterud asked: >Does anyone know where I can buy TOS 2.06 for my MEGA STE ? >It MUST be in English, and should be 50Hz (but 60Hz will do) CodeHead Software in the US will be selling the TOS 2.06 ROMs separately from their TEC board for those whose STs will handle the ROMs directly. Give them a call at CodeHeadquarters AFTER Christmas week for pricing information: (213) 386-5735 Their US Snail address is: P.O. Box 74090, Los Angeles, CA 90004 BobR ------------------------------ Date: 25 Dec 91 05:32:34 GMT From: noao!asuvax!cs.utexas.edu!qt.cs.utexas.edu!yale.edu!ira.uka.de!math.fu-berlin.d e!tmpmbx!lime.in-berlin.de!techno@arizona.edu (Techno) Subject: Which is better to run for ST acceleration? To: Info-Atari16@naucse.cse.nau.edu arioch@ccwf.cc.utexas.edu (Brett Hurt) writes: >Which is better to run for reliability and performance.. Turbo ST 1.4 or >Quick ST? Hm, I'm running Turbo ST V1.8 and it's very stable and compatible, even on overscan. Quick ST isn't. Personally, I cannot recommend Quick ST. JMHO, Techno -- | techno@zelator.in-berlin.de ||| Please do not e-mail from outside Germany ! | | techno@lime.in-berlin.de / | \ Hardcore ST user ! ====================== | | Nothing that's real is ever for free, you just have to pay for it sometime. | | (Al Stewart) | Hi ! I'm a .signature virus. Join the fun and copy me into your .signature ! ------------------------------ End of Info-Atari16 Digest ******************************