Info-Atari16 Digest Tue, 24 Dec 91 Volume 91 : Issue 675 Today's Topics: CASSETTE INSERT MAKER FOR TEH ST CFN Online chat Files sent to atari.archive FTP dir on dsrgsun.ces.cwru.edu HERMES UUCP PACKAGE Mail server @ terminator? MEGAFILE 44 HELP NEEDED Mega STE Questions Merry Xmas Problem with file in ATARI.ARCHIVE.UMICH.EDU Quick ST support ST FORMAT GAME DIED: Imagework's INTERPHASE TeX Shell Uploaded TIFF to PostScript ? TT questions Wanted: Internal Drive Weekly Posting of New Stuff Which is better to run for ST acceleration? X-mas gift.. Welcome to the Info-Atari16 Digest. The configuration for the automatic cross-posting to/from Usenet is getting closer, but still getting thrashed out. Please send notifications about broken digests or bogus messages to Info-Atari16-Request@NAUCSE.CSE.NAU.EDU. Please send requests for un/subscription and other administrivia to Info-Atari16-Request, *NOT* Info-Atari16. Requests that go to the list instead of the moderators are likely to be lost or ignored. If you want to unsubscribe, and you're receiving the digest indirectly from someplace (usually a BITNET host) that redistributes it, please contact the redistributor, not us. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: 23 Dec 91 09:42:40 GMT From: timbuk.cray.com!hemlock.cray.com!marc@uunet.uu.net (Marc Bouron) Subject: CASSETTE INSERT MAKER FOR TEH ST To: Info-Atari16@naucse.cse.nau.edu In article <1991Dec22.050849.4925@cunews.carleton.ca>, wcsanil@superior.carleton.ca (Anil Prasad) writes: > THis is my second post requesting a cassette insert maker for the ST. > > Surely one exists! I've seen excellent programs for just about every > other computer. Please respond via email to wcsanil@ccs.carleton.ca > if you have one or know of one. > > Anil Prasad > wcsanil@ccs.carleton.ca > There is a program called CLEDnnn.LZH (can't remember the version) at atari.archive. It was written as an example of GEM programming, so you might find it in the /programming directory. [M][a][r][c] ################################################################################ # # marc@hemlock.cray.com # . . # # Marc CR Bouron # M.Bouron@cray.co.uk (ARPA) # _|\ /|_ # # Cray Research (UK) Ltd. # M.Bouron@crayuk.uucp (DOMAIN) # (_|_V_|_) # # +44 344 485971 x2208 # M.Bouron@uk.co.cray (JANET) # | | # # # ...!uknet!crayuk!M.Bouron (UUCP) # # ################################################################################ ------------------------------ Date: 24 Dec 91 17:36:42 GMT From: noao!asuvax!cs.utexas.edu!qt.cs.utexas.edu!zaphod.mps.ohio-state.edu!think.com! spool.mu.edu!agate!usenet.ins.cwru.edu!cleveland.Freenet.Edu!aa399@arizona.edu (Len Stys) Subject: CFN Online chat To: Info-Atari16@naucse.cse.nau.edu I have been getting some e-mail on the letter I'm planning to write Atari but I would really like to talk to you guys online. If you have telnet access, try logging on the Cleveland Free-Net. The system has multi-user chat. We can get our heads together and write Atari a letter. I know it will get through because it has in the past. I know this because I talked to the person who got it and he quoted me things from it. Once we write the letter, we can say to ourselves, "HEY! We told them what we wanted, if they screw it up, we can't help them!" You would telnet to 129.22.8.75 If you can't get in with that address, I'll find another one. If you don't have an ID already, I don't know what to say. It takes about two weeks and I am hoping to have the conference this weekend or something. And if you forgot what my letter was about, it is a letter about what we would like to see Atari's new ST computers have. I've been told they are still under development so we can still get in our suggestions. Thanks. P.S. That is NOT an FTP number. Telnet and FTP are different. Len -- ------------------------------ Date: 23 Dec 91 09:39:38 GMT From: iWarp.intel.com|ichips!inews!imutm1.de.intel.com!gold.sub.org!tokna.gold.sub.or g!root@uunet.uu.net (Thomas Knauer) Subject: Files sent to atari.archive To: Info-Atari16@naucse.cse.nau.edu Hi, In <3171@wet.UUCP>, Ed Krimen writes: >In article <91345.152652ONM07@DMSWWU1A.BITNET> ONM07@DMSWWU1A.BITNET writes: >>In article <3141@wet.UUCP>, ekrimen@wet.UUCP (Ed Krimen) says: >>> >>>These files were just sent to Jeff at atari.archive. >>> >>>KAOS21EG.LZH 83456 KAOS 2.1 Desktop in English. >> >>As far as I know, this is a commercial product!!! > >Hmm, I got it off GEnie. They're usually not open to having commercial >products uploaded to them. ;~) > >I checked the docs and didn't see any reference as to whether it was >commercial, shareware, or freeware. > > ||| Ed Krimen > ||| ekrimen@wet.UUCP or hoptoad!wet!ekrimen > / | \ E.KRIMEN (GEnie) KAOS, the alternative OS is a commercial product. But this applies only for the "genuine" OS itself (i.e. ROM-files etc.). Some utilities like KAOSDESK may be copied and distributed. Greeting, Thomas -- Thomas Knauer FIDO: Thomas Knauer @ 2:244/8002.11 Tessiner Str. 144 UUCP: fendrich@salyko.doit.sub.org 8000 Muenchen 71 root@tokna.gold.sub.org 089/7593673 on IRC: TKnauer ------------------------------ Date: 23 Dec 91 15:04:00 GMT From: ral.arc.nasa.gov!semra@icarus.riacs.edu (Donald George) Subject: FTP dir on dsrgsun.ces.cwru.edu To: Info-Atari16@naucse.cse.nau.edu Hello, I've only tried to post once before and I don't even know if that one got out. I've been trying to access dsrgsun.ces.cwru.edu for access to the atari archives that are (were?) there. I'm unable to get a directory after an anonymous FTP login. It seems that there is a /pub/atari directory, but I can't see what's in it. I assume that it's set up that way for security reasons. Which brings up my questions: 1. Are there still archives there? 2. If there are, how do you find out what's there? Email replies to semra@ral.arc.nasa.gov and place my name (Don George) in the reply as this is a shared account. Also, since I don't know if my posts are going out or not, could someone please reply anyway. Let's set a time limit of about a day to reply, that way I don't get bomarded with replies from now until doomsday (not too likely, but you never know). Thanks for the help. I guess I need to make up a sig one of these days. ------------------------------ Date: 23 Dec 91 21:15:26 GMT From: noao!ncar!elroy.jpl.nasa.gov!swrinde!zaphod.mps.ohio-state.edu!van-bc!jonh.wims ey.bc.ca!jhenders@arizona.edu (John Henders) Subject: HERMES UUCP PACKAGE To: Info-Atari16@naucse.cse.nau.edu In <693355394.2@fquest.FidoNet>, Mark Spacek writes: > > Hi, I tried sending you some mail inquiring about the mailing list you >mentioned and tring to see what help I could get in trying to set up Hermes. I >never got a reply. I take it you're talking to me. I did send you mail, got no bounce. I've tried testing a bang path. Let me know if it works. > ..I was >asking about setting up Hermes to run as an event under BBS Express!, we are >thinking about bringing in the ST Usenet messages, converting them over to the >local message base format, and possibly converting outgoing messages back over >for export. I don't think this would be the best way to do this. Too many problems arise when you try to juggle message formats, and errors can make you very unpopular. The monthly " Some FidoNet site's dumping garbage on the net again" threads are very enlightening in regards to much damage can be done by software that assumes too much. A far better solution, IMO, RCSU, would be to write a doors interface to Mercury, and flesh out the bare bones rn and elm that came in that package. BBS Express uses a very C like script language, so if you can handle that, C shouldn't be much of a leap. You need to keep your Usenet mail and news very clean nowadays, as the major hubs are using C news, which is getting stricter and stricter about what it'll pass. Articles have been dropped on the floor for a misplaced comma in the header. >..... Oh, BTW, what do you know >about the Usenet Mercury news groups that I've seen mentioned here. Do you get >them? A friend of mine with an account at the University of Texas looked >around and they don't get anything like that there. Just wondering... I think the mercury groups are a German only distribution, and you'd have to get your admin to get uunet or someoone who gets the groups to forward it to you. TO ALL PLANNING TO SAT UP A UUCP SITE, HOWEVER SMALL. Read the news.admin group regularly for a while. There also will hopefully be a new group called news.transport(s), which you'll need to follow. These groups let you keep up with what's happening in news software, and by running a uucp site, however small, you are an admin, and should keep current on what's going on. I found out there that a recent change to Cnews had tightened up on Date: header parsing, and all my messages were being dropped on the floor. ( Thanks Matthew ) Re: Mailing Lists. The response has been small, and Hermes doesn't make mailing list administration easy, so it's a no go. However, I've agreed to provide NA support, for what little I've figured out so far, and will refer any thing I can't explain to Martin. This is for Hermes, as I no longer use Mercury, plus the English doc available for Mercury are quite good. -- John Henders jhenders@jonh.wimsey.bc.ca Vancouver,BC or ubc.cs!van-bc!jonh!jhenders ------------------------------ Date: 19 Dec 91 01:01:24 GMT From: noao!asuvax!cs.utexas.edu!uwm.edu!linac!uchinews!msuinfo!sharkey!umich!terminat or!brode@arizona.edu (Jon Brode) Subject: Mail server @ terminator? To: Info-Atari16@naucse.cse.nau.edu In article <95679@bu.edu> selick@bucsf.bu.edu (Steven Selick) writes: >I was just wondering if there was a mail server for the atari files at >terminator.cc.umich.edu that are available via ftp. Yep, send a message to atari@atari.archive.umich.edu with a body of "help" and you will get instructions for using the mail server. Jon ------------------------------ Date: 23 Dec 91 20:25:29 GMT From: noao!asuvax!cs.utexas.edu!usc!rpi!pinelr@arizona.edu (Robert Jeffrey Pinelli) Subject: MEGAFILE 44 HELP NEEDED To: Info-Atari16@naucse.cse.nau.edu In article <693355394.1@fquest.FidoNet> Mark.Spacek@fquest.FidoNet.Org (Mark Spacek) writes: >I'm posting the following for a local friend who doesn't use Usenet. Any help >would be appreciated. Either post it here or e-mail me, people have told me >that they are having trouble getting mail to me and are having to use the bang >path to get it through though.... Anyway, on with the show >------------------------------------------------------------------------- > Okay, folks, got a problem someone may be able to help me with, I >hope. I've recently gotten a Megafile 44 Syquest cartridge drive. For >the most part, it works just fine, but it's got a couple quirks. When I Speaking of 44meg removeables... There was a post here a while back from someone looking to sell his Toadfile 44meg drive. If the drive is still available, I would be very interested in its purchase. I'm sorry to waste the bandwidth but I can't search back for the article as I believe it has been purged from the news system here. Thanks, Rob (replies via email please) ------------------------------ Date: 24 Dec 91 02:06:35 GMT From: noao!ncar!asuvax!cs.utexas.edu!usc!wupost!csus.edu!nic.csu.net!csun.edu!kithrup !hoptoad!wet!ekrimen@arizona.edu (Ed Krimen) Subject: Mega STE Questions To: Info-Atari16@naucse.cse.nau.edu In article <1991Dec12.165324.7077@csv.viccol.edu.au> gjocc@csv.viccol.edu.au writes: >A few questions on the Mega STE: > >What graphics cards are available and what software will support them? >(I have a 1024 * 768 colour Multiscan monitor). > >Does the Dave Small 68030 board work in a Mega STE? Last question first, no, it doesn't. George Richardson, of the Merlin Group who designed the board, said that Dave wants one for the MSTE, but there may not be enough room in the machine for one. If he is able to get one made, he said that you shouldn't expect it within the year. As for the first question, there's the Matrix cards from Germany. There's also AlberTT (1024x768 w/ 16 colors from a palette of 4096). It's VDI- compatible, so it works with a lot of stuff, like DynaCADD, Calamus SL, etc. Finally, there's Leonardo24: 512x512 with 16 million colors; it will show as many of those 16mil as you can fit on the screen (512x512=262,144 colors). First 50 are $400 from Lexicor. It will run on an SC1224 or SC1435 or multisync monitor. Has NTSC output. -- ||| Ed Krimen ||| ekrimen@wet.UUCP or hoptoad!wet!ekrimen / | \ E.KRIMEN (GEnie) ------------------------------ Date: 24 Dec 91 16:33:03 GMT From: noao!asuvax!cs.utexas.edu!wupost!micro-heart-of-gold.mit.edu!bu.edu!bucsf.bu.ed u!harryk@arizona.edu (Harry Karayiannis) Subject: Merry Xmas To: Info-Atari16@naucse.cse.nau.edu Merry Christmas ~ ~~~ and ~~~~~ ~~~~~~~ Happy New Year ~~~~~~~~~ ~~~~~~~~~~~ | || ============================================================================= Author of ATZENTA2 Harry Karayiannis ________E-Mail________ 15 N.Beacon, #316 Boston Univ. |INTERnet: ** || ATARI ** Allston, MA 02134 Computer Sc. | harryk@bucsf.bu.edu ** /||\ MegaST ** U.S.A. |BITnet: ======================================================| cscrzcc@buacca.bu.edu ---------------------- ------------------------------ Date: 24 Dec 91 02:53:09 GMT From: noao!ncar!asuvax!cs.utexas.edu!utgpu!cunews!wcsanil@arizona.edu (Anil Prasad) Subject: Problem with file in ATARI.ARCHIVE.UMICH.EDU To: Info-Atari16@naucse.cse.nau.edu The file cled122s.lzh in the applications/other section of the atari archives at umich is severely corrupted. I don't know who I'm supposed to contact about this, so I'm hoping someone can pass the info along for me. If anyone has a good copy of this program (it's a cassette insert maker program), please get in touch with me at wcsanil@ccs.carleton.ca Thanks. Anil Prasad ------------------------------ Date: 23 Dec 91 16:55:40 GMT From: noao!asuvax!cs.utexas.edu!sun-barr!cronkite.Central.Sun.COM!texsun!digi!rgosewe h@arizona.edu (Roy Gosewehr) Subject: Quick ST support To: Info-Atari16@naucse.cse.nau.edu My opinion (flame away if it makes you feel good): I have Turbo ST and am quite happy with it. Although I was curious about QST3, I *definitely* would not buy it from D. Mihocka (sp?). Yes, his consistently poor attitude does make a difference to me. However, now that the CodeHeads are responsible for QST3, I *will* upgrade from Turbo ST. Mind you, I don't "need" to, but I do want to support the CodeHeads. I just hope that the amount of $ that goes to DM (if any) is kept to a minimum! :-) Happy Holidays to all! Roy C. Gosewehr ------------------------------ Date: 23 Dec 91 02:13:42 GMT From: mcsun!uknet!slxsys!ibmpcug!demon!news@uunet.uu.net (Iain Laskey) Subject: ST FORMAT GAME DIED: Imagework's INTERPHASE To: Info-Atari16@naucse.cse.nau.edu Interphase was a commercial game costing around 25 UKP. It was put on ST Format as a freebie cover disk program. It's fairly unlikely that ST Format will be able to help as it's not their program. As for Starglider 1 - This doesn't work with later ST's so check before you buy if at all possible. I think the games OK up to TOS1.4 though. ############################### # Iain R Laskey # # ilaskey@cix.compulink.co.uk # ############################### ------------------------------ Date: 23 Dec 91 14:54:04 GMT From: mcsun!uknet!warwick!nott-cs!lut.ac.uk!elmar@uunet.uu.net (Mohammad A. Rahin) Subject: TeX Shell Uploaded To: Info-Atari16@naucse.cse.nau.edu I have recently uploaded version 1.3 of RTEXSHLL to atari.archive. This may come useful for those wanting to run a minimal TeX system. One bug present in the presently available version is removed & some new features are also added. Look for file RTEXSH13.ZOO in directory atari/newitems (initially) and later in directory atari/tex/shells. - Rahin ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 23 Dec 1991 16:22 WET-DST From: "Thomas Hantke, KVI Groningen, Zernikelaan 25, NL-9747 AA Groningen, The Netherlands, phone ++31 50-633259" Subject: TIFF to PostScript ? To: Info-Atari16@naucse.cse.nau.edu TIFF to PostScript (PS) Hi netters, I am looking for a conversion program for TIFF files directly to PostScript (PS). I need the conversion for (uncompressed) black/white and (uncompressed) gray scale pictures. The program/code should be usable from the command line interpreter (i.e. DOS, no mouse/windows whatsoever). I recently got the TIFF 5.0 documentation. If somebody has already got some C/Pascal code/program I would appreciate it if he/she could contact me. Please send your reactions to me directly; I'll summarize to the net. Cheers, Thomas. -------------------------------------------------------------------------- | Thomas Hantke e-mail: hantke@kvi.nl | | KVI Groningen phone : ++3150-745760 (work) | | Zernikelaan 25 ++3150-778777 (home) | | NL-9747 AA Groningen fax : ++3150-634556 | -------------------------------------------------------------------------- ------------------------------ Date: 19 Dec 91 19:25:58 GMT From: mcsun!sun4nl!hp4nl!tedux!alice.hobby.nl!harold@uunet.uu.net (Harold van Aalderen) Subject: TT questions To: Info-Atari16@naucse.cse.nau.edu In <1991Dec12.232747.3622@bernina.ethz.ch>, Rudi V. Drunen Groningen writes: >1: Is the TT sold without a Hard disk ?, or have all configurations > a hard drive installed ? Yes >2: Can I add my Quantum 105Mb SCSI drive to the system without making > serious hardware modifications (other than opening the machine, and > connecting the drive ) Yes >3: Can I use my standard atari monochrome monitor (SM 124) with the TT > if yes, in all monochrome resolutions ? or just the ST modes ? > What monitor do I need for the color modes. Can a 'standard' multisync > VGA monitor do the job ? SM124 NO standard VGA yes >4: How to add memory ? Do I need SIMMS or SIPPS, and which speed ? > can I just add memory by plugging in a couple of 1Mbyte / 70 ns > SIMMS ? SIMMS, don't know any details >6: The machine has a 1.44 Mb disk drive. Can I write and read 360K and 720K > floppies reliable ? Be sure to get the 1.44 Mb drive only the newest models have them and be sure to get TOS 3.06 inside, since that one will support 1.44 Mb drives >7: About UNIX : > The whole world is full of rumours about it. Is it available ?, if yes > Is it stable ? how much disk / memory does it take ? has it X ? are there > compilers for it ? > Is it an Additional product (ie. can I buy it later) or do I need to > buy it preinstalled with my system ? UNIX is only available to developers at the moment, don't expect user version before spring 1992 (that is what I heard from Atari) It takes 80Mb disk space seem to run stable an satisfactorly. It is delivered preinstalled on a large HD (210Mb or bigger) which can be bought later and installed. I am not sure if the Unix disk (which is a SCSI) must be the internal SCSI unit 0 and how you can choose between TOS and UNIX at boottime. >8: How about compatibility? Does all TOS software (all serious software I mean) > run ? Should be 95% (games excluded), the other 5% is either already updated or flaky anyway >9: What's the keyboard like ? Is it much better than the 1040 ? and compared > to the mega STs keyboard ? Seemed to be quit plesant PS. I do not own a TT it is al just what I heard and was able to try/see at several occasions. -- Harold van Aalderen | harold@alice.hobby.nl | {...!mcsun}!hp4nl!hgatenl!tedux!alice!harold alice: She's not the neighbour girl nor is she living in wonderland Who it is? For me to know for you to guess. ------------------------------ Date: 24 Dec 91 15:12:52 GMT From: sae!sae.com!malay@uunet.uu.net (Bob Malay) Subject: Wanted: Internal Drive To: Info-Atari16@naucse.cse.nau.edu I've been given a 1040STf that was in pretty bad shape - it was disassembled, missing the power cord, missing the mouse, and the DSDD internal drive is not working. I re-assembled it, found a spare power cord, and hooked it to my monitors (color & mono) - it seems to work fine except for the drive. Anybody happen to have a 1040STf DSDD internal drive (the one with the eject button in the lower middle) they want to part with. I also need a mouse but I don't want to spend 40 bucks or so on a new one?? Bob Malay ------------------------------ Date: 21 Dec 91 18:11:59 GMT From: netnews.upenn.edu!msuinfo!sharkey!umich!terminator!usenet@rutgers.rutgers.edu (Atari Archive Robot) Subject: Weekly Posting of New Stuff To: Info-Atari16@naucse.cse.nau.edu drwxrwxr-x jon 4608 Dec 15 10:30 ./games -rw-r--r-- weiner 236333 Dec 15 10:29 ./games/omega.zoo -rw-r--r-- weiner 26624 Dec 15 10:30 ./games/tectic.lzh -rw-rw-r-- weiner 9716 Dec 15 10:32 ./games/Index -rw-r--r-- weiner 2526 Dec 15 10:37 ./programming/Index -rw-r--r-- weiner 137066 Dec 15 10:36 ./programming/crystal.zoo drwxrwxr-x jon 1024 Dec 15 21:47 ./gnustuff drwxrwxr-x jon 512 Dec 16 00:58 ./cli -rw-r--r-- weiner 238341 Dec 15 10:25 ./cli/okami13b.lzh -rw-rw-r-- weiner 707 Dec 16 00:58 ./cli/Index lrwxrwxrwx weiner 16 Dec 15 21:46 ./cli/tcsh.zoo -> ../mint/tcsh.zoo -rw-rw-r-- weiner 88410 Dec 16 00:59 ./Index drwxrwxr-x weiner 1024 Dec 15 21:44 ./mint -rw-rw-r-- weiner 40320 Dec 15 10:22 ./mint/fgrep11.zoo -rw-rw-r-- weiner 94480 Dec 15 10:22 ./mint/sed108st.zoo -rw-rw-r-- weiner 2045 Dec 15 21:46 ./mint/Index -rw-r--r-- weiner 207336 Dec 15 21:41 ./mint/mint092b.zoo -rw-r--r-- weiner 263682 Dec 15 21:41 ./mint/mint092s.zoo -rw-r--r-- weiner 203228 Dec 15 21:44 ./mint/tcsh.zoo -rw-r--r-- weiner 76653 Dec 15 21:58 ./ls-lR.Z -rw-rw-r-- weiner 46076 Dec 16 00:59 ./CompInd.Z drwxrwxr-x gray 512 Dec 16 04:12 ./gnustuff/tos/redundant drwxrwxr-x gray 512 Dec 16 04:18 ./gnustuff/tos/emacs/emacs18.57 -rw-rw-r-- gray 602279 Dec 16 04:16 ./gnustuff/tos/emacs/emacs18.57/1857bin-d2.zoo -rw-rw-r-- gray 2744 Dec 16 04:14 ./gnustuff/tos/emacs/emacs18.57/aa.gnu.emacs1857 -rw-rw-r-- gray 448480 Dec 16 04:16 ./gnustuff/tos/emacs/emacs18.57/1857src-d2.zoo -rw-rw-r-- gray 12480 Dec 16 04:18 ./gnustuff/tos/emacs/emacs18.57/Contents -rw-rw-r-- gray 3314 Dec 16 04:20 ./gnustuff/tos/ls-R -rw-rw-r-- gray 14422 Dec 16 04:20 ./gnustuff/tos/ls-Rl drwxrwxr-x jon 512 Dec 16 09:58 ./cli -rw-rw-r-- weiner 707 Dec 16 09:58 ./cli/Index -rw-r--r-- weiner 238745 Dec 16 09:57 ./cli/okami13b.zoo drwxrwxr-x jon 2048 Dec 19 03:12 ./archivers -rw-rw-r-- hyc 64516 Dec 19 03:11 ./archivers/arc521e.arc -rw-rw-r-- hyc 49119 Dec 19 03:12 ./archivers/arc.ttp -rw-rw-r-- weiner 3351 Dec 18 10:41 ./archivers/Index drwxrwxr-x jon 1024 Dec 19 13:40 ./music ------------------------------ Date: 23 Dec 91 17:00:18 GMT From: noao!asuvax!cs.utexas.edu!tamsun!inetg1!ut-emx!ccwf.cc.utexas.edu!arioch@arizon a.edu (Brett Hurt) Subject: Which is better to run for ST acceleration? To: Info-Atari16@naucse.cse.nau.edu Which is better to run for reliability and performance.. Turbo ST 1.4 or Quick ST? Thanks, Brett ------------------------------ Date: 23 Dec 91 17:05:23 GMT From: sun-barr!cronkite.Central.Sun.COM!texsun!digi!rgoseweh@ames.arpa (Roy Gosewehr) Subject: X-mas gift.. To: Info-Atari16@naucse.cse.nau.edu In article <"929*.S=edb02.O=dhmolde.PRMD=uninett.ADMD=..C=no."@MHS> edb02@dhmolde.no (Torbjorn Ose) writes: >What I want for x-mas more than anything is that Richard Covert >disappears from this list.. The neat thing about this wish is that if it comes true a lot of other folks will have a very Merry Christmas too! :-) Happy Holidays (yes, even you R.C. - it's that time of year. :-) Roy C. Gosewehr ------------------------------ End of Info-Atari16 Digest ******************************