Info-Atari16 Digest Thu, 17 Oct 91 Volume 91 : Issue 535 Today's Topics: Delirious? HP Laserjet IIIP Message Router VMSmail Gateway nondelivery notification Mystery hard disk help PageStream v18 -> buy? Welcome to the Info-Atari16 Digest. The configuration for the automatic cross-posting to/from Usenet is getting closer, but still getting thrashed out. Please send notifications about broken digests or bogus messages to Info-Atari16-Request@NAUCSE.CSE.NAU.EDU. Please send requests for un/subscription and other administrivia to Info-Atari16-Request, *NOT* Info-Atari16. Requests that go to the list instead of the moderators are likely to be lost or ignored. If you want to unsubscribe, and you're receiving the digest indirectly from someplace (usually a BITNET host) that redistributes it, please contact the redistributor, not us. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: 7 Oct 91 15:57:26 GMT From: bu.edu!bucsf.bu.edu!selick@uunet.uu.net (Steven Selick) Subject: Delirious? To: Info-Atari16@naucse.cse.nau.edu I got Delirious from terminator.cc.umich.edu and it just says 'Don't worry...Loading delirious' and the floppy drive will keep clicking for all eternity. I tried on 2 different disks to see if it was a problem. I have a 4 meg 1040ste... ------------------------------ Date: 7 Oct 91 15:29:45 GMT From: noao!ncar!zaphod.mps.ohio-state.edu!magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu!dhbutler@arizona. edu (David Butler) Subject: HP Laserjet IIIP To: Info-Atari16@naucse.cse.nau.edu In article <1991Oct5.002306.7446@sactoh0.sac.ca.us> sap@sactoh0.sac.ca.us (Step han A. Puga) writes: >What is involved in hooking up an HP Laserjet IIIP to my computer? Are >there any features I would not be able to take advantage of? What about >fonts? Will the new GDOS work well with it? I have Pagestream and >WordPerfect (which both have drivers for Laserjets), how well do these >work? What about the options for the printer (i.e. toner cartridges, font >cards, memory upgrades, etc.)? > > Thanks in advance, > Stephan A. Puga >-- To everyone out there looking into LaserJet III (&IIIp), they are great! They produce output better than most 600dpi printers. They will work with virtually any of the older LaserJet drivers. You will, however, NEED more memory to use either Calamus or PageStream. I have 3megs in mine, and I have never had a problem with memory. When I bought it it had only 1meg, and neither Calamus nor PageStream would print a full page at highest quality. I bought a second party memory card with 2megs for $180, it works fine, and 1meg from HP is $300. So I recomend second party add-ons. - David Butler - "What ever happened to free love anyway?" -innagaddadaviddababy- ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 17 Oct 1991 13:46 EDT From: "SNDRTR::MRGATE::\"MRGATE\""@ash.sdr.slb.com Subject: Message Router VMSmail Gateway nondelivery notification To: Info-Atari16@naucse.cse.nau.edu Delivery of this message through the Gateway had the following results: Invalid reply path generated - Route too complex Unable to deliver to : M_DSAVX1::JAMET The original message follows: From: IN%"Info-Atari16@naucse.cse.nau.edu"@PSI%SDRVX2@MRGATE@SNDRTR Subject: Info-Atari16 Digest V91 #532 To: JAMET@M_DSAVX1@MRGATE@SNDRTR Received: from Relay.Prime.COM by sdr.slb.com (PMDF #12073) id <01GBUO4NGFN48WW0I1@sdr.slb.com>; Thu, 17 Oct 1991 11:53 EDT Received: from naucse.cse.nau.edu by Relay.Prime.COM; 17 Oct 91 11:55:12 EDT Received: by naucse.cse.nau.edu (5.61/1.5-nau) id AA25906; Thu, 17 Oct 91 08:45:20 -0700 Date: Thu, 17 Oct 91 08:45:14 MST From: Info-Atari16 Subject: Info-Atari16 Digest V91 #532 To: Info-Atari16-Distribution@naucse.cse.nau.edu Reply-to: Info-Atari16@naucse.cse.nau.edu Message-id: <9110171545.AA25906@naucse.cse.nau.edu> Info-Atari16 Digest Thu, 17 Oct 91 Volume 91 : Issue 532 Today's Topics: 6 new Macs from Apple... FAQ? For Sale: Atari 1040ST HD disk drives Install an app for two diff filetypes, term with IBM graphics option? LHARC 2.01E VS ZOO 2.1: SOME (2 msgs) Mercury Help Monochrome pictures MS-DOS Emulator recommendations? OS's PageStream v18 -> buy? (3 msgs) People dumping machines (was.. Atari Mega 2 system.. for sale) perl for Atari ST TeX/Metafont Distribution Available Uniterm Where ca I go...? Wot A Scorcher !!! Welcome to the Info-Atari16 Digest. The configuration for the automatic cross-posting to/from Usenet is getting closer, but still getting thrashed out. Please send notifications about broken digests or bogus messages to Info-Atari16-Request@NAUCSE.CSE.NAU.EDU. Please send requests for un/subscription and other administrivia to Info-Atari16-Request, *NOT* Info-Atari16. Requests that go to the list instead of the moderators are likely to be lost or ignored. If you want to unsubscribe, and you're receiving the digest indirectly from someplace (usually a BITNET host) that redistributes it, please contact the redistributor, not us. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: 6 Oct 91 20:43:15 GMT From: crabapple.srv.cs.cmu.edu!andrew.cmu.edu!mc4c+@pt.cs.cmu.edu (Mark Choi) Subject: 6 new Macs from Apple... To: Info-Atari16@naucse.cse.nau.edu Excerpts from netnews.comp.sys.atari.st: 2-Oct-91 6 new Macs from Apple... Karl Anders 0ygard@aahs. (859) > Apple recently announced the release of 6 new macs. The probably most > interesting of these are the three 'powerbooks'. These are an answer > (pretty late, if u ask me) to the PC notebooks. There will be two > 'regular' powerbooks, the first with a 68000 processor and the second > with a 68030 processor. The last powerbook will feature no keyboard, > and is operated by writing direcly on the screen with a pen (sounds > pretty familiar, hm?). All of these will weight in the vicinity of > 2.5 kilos and are produced in cooperation with Sony. > Also Apple will launch two new Macs with using the 68040 processor. > (How do you like that, Dave Small?) These will run by the name 'Quanta'. > There will be a desktop and a floor version. > Eventually there's a replacement for the SE/30, the Super Classic. Get your facts straight. There are indeed three new notebook macs comeing out, but none of them is a pen based machine. They are all variations on the same basic notbook design. The new 68040 machines are the Quadra 600? and the 900, and they are really for massive servers mopre than desktop maschines and are in tower cases. The new classic is called the classic/030, or 030/classic. nice machines, but overpriced, sorta like atari. mark ------------------------------ Date: 6 Oct 91 10:17:07 GMT From: noao!asuvax!cs.utexas.edu!qt.cs.utexas.edu!zaphod.mps.ohio-state.edu!think.com! snorkelwacker.mit.edu!bloom-beacon!eru!hagbard!sunic!dkuug!diku!kurt@arizona.ed u (Kurt M. Alonso) Subject: FAQ? To: Info-Atari16@naucse.cse.nau.edu Hi netters, I just bought an el-cheapo ST520 and I have some questions. + I have an original atari 360K drive. Can this drive read Macintosh or PC disks, or do I have to invest in a better drive? + How can I upgrade the RAM? Do I have to buy a special board and fiddle with the hardware to get beyond 1M? + What processor upgrades are there available? I have heard of the SST board. Can I install it without pain in my ST? Thanks in advance for your answer -- e-mail: kurt@diku.dk ------------------------------ Date: 4 Oct 91 02:50:42 GMT From: ucivax!orion.oac.uci.edu!unogate!mvb.saic.com!ncr-sd!ncrcae!hubcap!gatech!prism !gt1448b@locus.ucla.edu (David P. Forrai) Subject: For Sale: Atari 1040ST To: Info-Atari16@naucse.cse.nau.edu For Sale: 1) An Atari 1040ST computer (TOS 1.0, 3.5" DSDD internal floppy drive, 1 meg RAM, mouse, 1987 USA Language Disk, owner's manual) 2) Tech Specialities unpopulated 4 meg RAM upgrade board If you're interested in either or both, make me an offer. I'll pay shipping. -- David P. Forrai uucp: ...!{decvax,hplabs,ncar,purdue,rutgers}!gatech!prism!gt1448b Internet: gt1448b@prism.gatech.edu ------------------------------ Date: 6 Oct 91 13:36:22 GMT From: IFI.UIO.NO!larserio@ucbvax.berkeley.edu (LarsErikOsterud) Subject: HD disk drives To: Info-Atari16@naucse.cse.nau.edu As both the Atari MEGA STE and the TT has build in option for use of HIGH DENSITY floppy disk drives in the operating system and a possibility to turn this on by moving a DIP switch I have the following question: - When will Atari release a 16 MHz version of th WD-1772 FDC that will read/write HD disks without heating up to much - When will a HD drive that fits in the ST drive slot be available I have tried other drives, but the front from the ST drive won't fit (the button is fittet in another way etc etc etc...) I know other companies can deliver FDC that manange HD drives, but that stills leaves us with the last problem..... Lars-Erik / Registered Developer / ABK-BBS +47 2132659 / ____ ______ 0sterud / w/ Atari Scandinavia / larserio@ifi.uio.no / /___ / __________/ _______________________/ ______________________/ ____/ / ------------------------------ Date: 7 Oct 91 10:01:10 GMT From: noao!asuvax!cs.utexas.edu!sdd.hp.com!spool.mu.edu!hri.com!ukma!vlsi!ULKYVX.BITN ET!R0MILL01@arizona.edu (Robert Delius Royar) Subject: Install an app for two diff filetypes, term with IBM graphics option? To: Info-Atari16@naucse.cse.nau.edu Be sure not to delete any trailing spaces after each line, and be careful not to exceed 1024 bytes (each lines gets a CRLF appended in ST memory on read). That 1024 limit is not for TOS 1.4 but for earlier versions. TOS 1.4 and above upped it to 4098. But some programs will barf if the shell- put/get buffer is too large. ------------------------------ Date: 6 Oct 91 16:37:38 GMT From: mcsun!unido!nixpbe!offbeat!mboen@uunet.uu.net (Martin Boening) Subject: LHARC 2.01E VS ZOO 2.1: SOME To: Info-Atari16@naucse.cse.nau.edu In <686575281.1@fquest.FidoNet> Philip.Durgin@fquest.FidoNet.Org (Philip Durgin) writes: >I did my own research between ZOO 2.1 and LHarc 2.01E and found the following. > >1) Hacker.txt 10232 >2) hacker.prg 124698 > >This is an on-line game for my BBS was compress with both ZOO and LHARC > >LHarc: 64089 bytes in size after compression taking 55 seconds to do so. >ZOO : 88312 bytes in size after compression taking 47 seconds to do so. > >both took 15 secs to extract the files. > >Compressing a .GIF picture named ARMY1.gif 168010 > >164078 after LHarc compression >220107 after ZOO compression > Oh no, here we go again. These figures look a lot like Zoo 2.0 compression for the zoo files. To get high compression mode for Zoo 2.1, don't forget to use the 'h' flag on the command line. Then Zoo will come real close to lharc. The biggest advantage of zoo is: I've got it for MINIX, for UNIX of many flavors, for DOS, and for TOS. (Maybe I'll even have a CP/M version one day). And the zoo versions are all compatible. Also zoo makes a fine archivin tool, allowing me to put comments for the generated archive and/or the separate files into the archive, allowing for generations (i.e. several versions of one file), and lots of goodies. It can archive full pathnames and for TOS, recursively collect files. So, what more can one want? Now, please try that 'h' option and test again. Over and out. Martin -- Email: in the USA -> mboening.pad@sni-usa.com outside USA -> mboening.pad@sni.de Paper Mail: Martin Boening, Siemens Nixdorf Informationssys. AG, SNI STO SI 325, Pontanusstr. 55, 4790 Paderborn, W.-Germany (Phone: +49 5251 846155) ------------------------------ Date: 6 Oct 91 19:13:43 GMT From: noao!asuvax!cs.utexas.edu!uwm.edu!ogicse!ucsd!sdcc6!sdcc13!atilghma@arizona.edu (Adam Tilghman) Subject: LHARC 2.01E VS ZOO 2.1: SOME To: Info-Atari16@naucse.cse.nau.edu In article <686575281.1@fquest.FidoNet> Philip.Durgin@fquest.FidoNet.Org (Philip Durgin) writes: >I did my own research between ZOO 2.1 and LHarc 2.01E and found the following. > ... example deleted ... > >If being able to compress files 73% smaller than ZOO is not a significant >difference then you must have HD space to burn.... And not being to Compress a >.GIF picture at all is unthinkable. I guess I am going to stay with LHARC until >ZOO can show a much better track record than the one available. > Did you consider the fact that GIF pictures are already Lempel-Ziv compressed? This does signal a shortfall in the ZOO code, however, if the finding is correct - ZOO should be able to simply STORE a file if it can't compress it... But I'll be sticking with ZOO for now - ZOO is already installed here at UCSD, and LHArc isn't. s i -- ==== Adam G. Tilghman - atilghma@sdcc13.ucsd.edu - (619)558-2141 ==== == "Martha, fetch my rifle - thar's another UCSD ECE undergrad!" == ------------------------------ Date: 5 Oct 91 17:41:56 GMT From: mcsun!unido!horga!nathan!ue@uunet.uu.net (Udo Erdelhoff) Subject: Mercury Help To: Info-Atari16@naucse.cse.nau.edu In , John Henders writes: Hi John, > Does anyone know how to get the Mercury UUCP package to handle >long group names? Mail to Rodney goes unanswered, but doesn't bounce, >so I don't know if he's still around. I've tried to get the group >alt.society.cu-digest, and it just doesn't show up. Maybe the "-" is your problem. I'm also using Mercury's RMail here, and one group is called "sub.newusers.questions". I do not have any problems with that group (and the name is one char longer than yours). /s/ -- Udo Erdelhoff ue@nathan.ruhr.de Fido: Udo Erdelhoff on 2:245/52.1 ------------------------------ Date: 4 Oct 91 22:47:13 GMT From: noao!ncar!elroy.jpl.nasa.gov!sdd.hp.com!cs.utexas.edu!utgpu!watserv1!watdragon! rose.waterloo.edu!cjherborth@arizona.edu (Chris Herborth) Subject: Monochrome pictures To: Info-Atari16@naucse.cse.nau.edu To start an almost completely useless thread: Does anyone know of a decent source for good monochrome 640x400 images (.GIF, Degas, .IMG, whatever) that would be suitable for background pictures on my desktop? I've got this really great rendition of the cover from Jean Michel Jarre's Oxygene album, but I'm getting a little sick of it... In case you're curious, I think I downloaded it from GEnie... ---------------=============================================--------------- Chris Herborth cjherborth@{rose|lotus}.waterloo.edu 3B Hons English RPW GEnie: C.HERBORTH Never send a monster to do the work of an Evil Scientist... ------------------------------ Date: 6 Oct 91 18:09:29 GMT From: europa.asd.contel.com!awds.imsd.contel.com!wlbr!lonex.rl.af.mil!longj@uunet.uu. net (Jeffrey K. Long) Subject: MS-DOS Emulator recommendations? To: Info-Atari16@naucse.cse.nau.edu I have decided that I have had it with not being able to find any software for my beloved 1040STE!!! I DO NOT WANT TO GET RID OF MY STE!!! I DO WANT to be be able to buy some of the more popular software packages (I.e. Quicken, Tobias' MYM etc..) and use them in addition to the stuff I now know and love on my STE (like Flash, GNU-C,...) so I am looking at buying an MS-DOS Emulator. NO, I don't want to start a "don't buy an Emulator, buy a cheap IBM" thread hear, I can't afford 600-1000 dollars to get a decent IBM with HD, plus I don't have the room for two systems. SO---can all of you emulator users out there give me a 'lessons learned'? Specifically, relative merits, problems of the emulator you are using? I am interested mostly in speed of use for common MS-DOS programs like Work Processors, Financial and Data-Base stuff, not in running heavy graphics oriented stuff like windows etc.. What is the best MS-DOS emulator for my money, one that will work with my STE and ICD based hard-drive? I don't mind a solder-in board, so installation is not one of the criterion I am too worried about, more compatibility and speed. Thanks in advance!! Jeff -- ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Capt Jeff Long Rome Laboratories, Griffiss AFB, NY longj@lonex.rl.af.mil (preferred) Network Design Laboratory jlong@cassiopeia.rl.af.mil (315)330-7751 or (DSN)587-7751 ------------------------------ Date: 6 Oct 91 16:02:17 GMT From: noao!ncar!elroy.jpl.nasa.gov!swrinde!zaphod.mps.ohio-state.edu!rpi!news-server. csri.toronto.edu!generic.physics.utoronto.ca!julian!julian.uwo.ca!ersmith@arizo na.edu (Eric Smith) Subject: OS's To: Info-Atari16@naucse.cse.nau.edu In article <1991Oct4.150440.1960@tripos.com> downey@tripos.com (Tom Downey) writes: >I am a unix kinda guy and have been using gulam. >I am not completely happy (who is?) with it. >Is mint better? what about minix? > gulam is just a shell, not an operating system. MiNT, on the other hand, is just an operating system, not a shell. MiNT extends GEMDOS so that some new features (multitasking, pipes, job control, and many more) are available; but there's no particular shell that *must* go with it. You can use gulam with MiNT (I do, sometimes), or you can use a shell like bash or ksh that can take advantage of MiNT features. minix is another animal entirely; it's a new operating system that replaces TOS completely, rather than providing extensions for TOS. It comes with a clone of the standard Unix shell sh (which isn't very nice for interactive use), and with a lot of nice utilities. Note that you cannot run existing TOS programs under minix. So which is best? It depends on what you want. You didn't really say what you disliked about gulam. It may be that another shell running under just TOS (e.g. GEMINI, which is a very nice one) may satisfy your needs. If you want multitasking, job control, and pipes, get MiNT and add bash, ksh, and/or mgr. If you want to chuck it all and start all over, you may want to try minix; give MiNT a try first, though. --Eric PS: you also mentioned dissatisfaction with your C compiler. Try gcc: it's free, and it's one of the best C compilers available. -- Eric R. Smith ersmith@julian.uwo.ca eric.smith@uwo.ca ------------------------------ Date: 6 Oct 91 17:52:49 GMT From: noao!ncar!asuvax!cs.utexas.edu!usc!rpi!dinsmm@arizona.edu (Michael John Dinsmore) Subject: PageStream v18 -> buy? To: Info-Atari16@naucse.cse.nau.edu Hi! I just downloaded a demo version of PageStream. This program looks very nice and I am considering buying it. A few questions first though: Is it one of the best DTP programs for the ST? The best? Can you get different fonts for it easily? Can you make the file into standard PostScript? How much is it? Is there any place where I can buy it? Address? Phone? Thanks a lot for your help! ____ /\/\ \MD/ / \ike "You can twist perceptions, reality won't budge." \/ dinsmm@rpi.edu - Neil Peart, RUSH ------------------------------ Date: 6 Oct 91 22:14:36 GMT From: noao!ncar!elroy.jpl.nasa.gov!swrinde!cs.utexas.edu!milano!cactus.org!covert@ari zona.edu (Richard Covert) Subject: PageStream v18 -> buy? To: Info-Atari16@naucse.cse.nau.edu In article dinsmm@aix.rpi.edu (Michael John Dinsmore) writes: > > Hi! > I just downloaded a demo version of PageStream. This program looks >very nice and I am considering buying it. A few questions first though: >Is it one of the best DTP programs for the ST? The best? >Can you get different fonts for it easily? Can you make the file > into standard PostScript? >How much is it? Is there any place where I can buy it? Address? Phone? > PageStream (PgS) is now at version 1.2, and is one of the best dtp packages out. i t now supports EPS clip art as well. I own both it and Calamus 1.09N (which hasn't been updated this year) and well some prefer Calamus I think that PgS is easier to learn and to use. There is a magazine (diskzine or somesuch) called RADICAL TYPE to support the Atari ST and the Amiga version of PgS. Softlogic publishes PGS and is an American Company in St. Louis MI. It uses Adobe Type I fonts now as well as PgS propreitary fonts. what else? well it works well with my Panasonic KXP4450 laser printer. I highly recommend PgS and Softlogic. -- Richard E. Covert covert@cactus.org CACTUS ..!cs.utexas.edu!cactus.org!covert ------------------------------ Date: 6 Oct 91 22:16:17 GMT From: noao!ncar!elroy.jpl.nasa.gov!swrinde!cs.utexas.edu!milano!cactus.org!covert@ari zona.edu (Richard Covert) Subject: PageStream v18 -> buy? To: Info-Atari16@naucse.cse.nau.edu isorry, PgS is at version 2.1 not 1.2 as I said in my last messgae. another nice thing is that Softlogic comes with two new manuals. Softlogic is a very good company, IMHO . -- Richard E. Covert covert@cactus.org CACTUS ..!cs.utexas.edu!cactus.org!covert ------------------------------ Date: 7 Oct 91 01:51:41 GMT From: munnari.oz.au!bunyip.cc.uq.oz.au!uqcspe!cs.uq.oz.au!warwick@uunet.uu.net (Warwick Allison) Subject: People dumping machines (was.. Atari Mega 2 system.. for sale) To: Info-Atari16@naucse.cse.nau.edu england@milton.u.washington.edu (Gregory Miller) writes: >warwick@cs.uq.oz.au writes: >>jvance@bonnie.ics.uci.edu (Joachim Vance) writes: >> >>That was my guess, from seeing the "Blitter" option greyed out (ie. disabled) >>on my friend's TT. It seems to me that if TurboST and QuickST can do better >>than the blitter (though I'm still not convinced), then certainly even the >>coders at Atari can do better with a 32MHz machine. >What does it take to convince you that TurboST et al do better than the >blitter? A simple comparison of a non-blitter machine vs. a blitter >machine (no TurboST or QuickST allowed!) is all that should be needed >to convince anyone! There simply is no really noticeable difference! I don't need to be convinced that TurboST is faster - that's obvious. I'm not convinced that TurboST implements all calls _exactly_ as Atari intends them to be. (I heard that Gemini, for one, does not work correctly with TurboST). Warwick. -- _-_|\ warwick@cs.uq.oz.au / * <-- Computer Science Department, \_.-._/ University of Queensland, v Brisbane, AUSTRALIA. ------------------------------ Date: 7 Oct 91 06:25:57 GMT From: cadence!cadence.com!bammi@uunet.uu.net (Jwahar R. Bammi) Subject: perl for Atari ST To: Info-Atari16@naucse.cse.nau.edu In article lahtinen@gideon.fmi.fi (Kimmo Lahtinen) writes: > I would like to know if there is perl version 4 for Atari ST. > I have a beta version of version 3. It works OK, but is there > a later version. yeah, i ported perl 4 patchlevel 10. it seems to pass almost all the tests, except for the obvious ones. -- -- bang: uunet!cadence!bammi jwahar r. bammi domain: bammi@cadence.com GEnie: J.Bammi CIS: 71515,155 ------------------------------ Date: 4 Oct 91 10:14:23 GMT From: noao!asuvax!cs.utexas.edu!utgpu!watserv1!bmaraldo@arizona.edu (Commander Brett Maraldo) Subject: TeX/Metafont Distribution Available To: Info-Atari16@naucse.cse.nau.edu Plexus Productions TeX/Metafont Release v2.0 (P~D TeX v2.0) I have recently complied all the TeX and Metafont stuff I could get my hands on into a coherent and well formed distribution. The system is available on about 24 double-sided disks for the Atari ST. It included: TeX 2.9 (3.1 would've been nice but I could get little support from the author) this included Plain tex, LaTeX, PicTeX (pictures), MuTeX (music), Initex, texinfo, 'A Gentle Introduction to TeX' (a good starter manual), BibTex, Tex\Latex\Pictex\Bibtex etc input files. TeX Draw which allows you to WYSIWYG draw and output the picture in Latex, Pictex format. Competent dvi viewers and printers including utilities and fonts and a DVI to Postscript converter Metafont with complete font sources for CM, AMS Euler and Cyrilic, LaTeX, MuTeX, Wasy and Pandora fonts. also inimf and other utility files Ten disks filled with fonts all files are unarced and properly foldered. I am including a hardcopy laser printed copy of 'A Gentle Introduction to TeX' and well as relevant DVI, etc docs. I al also including a manual describing the files and which ones you need to install for particular requirements. The distribution is available for $75 Canadian. This pays for the disks (24 of so) and a bit for the time it took to compile the distribution. You also get my support. If you want more info or would like to order, please write to: Plexus Productions Brett Maraldo 38 York Street Kitchener, Ontario N2G 1T2 Canada tel 519 742 0370 make all MONEY ORDERS (try not to send a cheque) out to Brett Maraldo -- -------- Unit 36 Research --------- "Alien Technology Today" bmaraldo@watserv1.UWaterloo.ca {uunet!clyde!utai}!watserv1!bmaraldo ------------------------------ Date: 7 Oct 91 05:55:00 GMT From: ub!acsu.buffalo.edu!ubvmsb.cc.buffalo.edu!v051lpqa@rutgers.rutgers.edu (Dough the demented) Subject: Uniterm To: Info-Atari16@naucse.cse.nau.edu Hello, Is it possible to get the source for uniterm? If so, could someone tell me where to get it. Thanks! Dough ------------------------------ Date: 6 Oct 91 23:42:15 GMT From: noao!asuvax!cs.utexas.edu!swrinde!zaphod.mps.ohio-state.edu!pacific.mps.ohio-st ate.edu!ohstpy!miavx1!miamiu!jc5lsanu@arizona.edu Subject: Where ca I go...? To: Info-Atari16@naucse.cse.nau.edu could someone E-mail me a place to go in Ohio. I would like to find a place in the Cincinnatti, Dayton, or Columbus area. John crider -=%-=%-=%-=%-=%-=%-=%-=%-=%-=%-=%-=%-=%- *** jc5lsanu@miamiu.bitnet | | *** jmcrider@miavx1.bitnet | You are the epicenter of my | | nothingness. | | - Anon | -=%-=%-=%-=%-=%-=%-=%-=%-=%-=%-=%-=%-=%-= ------------------------------ Date: 6 Oct 91 23:52:36 GMT From: noao!ncar!elroy.jpl.nasa.gov!sdd.hp.com!zaphod.mps.ohio-state.edu!magnus.acs.oh io-state.edu!usenet.ins.cwru.edu!cleveland.Freenet.Edu!al885@arizona.edu (Gerard Pinzone) Subject: Wot A Scorcher !!! To: Info-Atari16@naucse.cse.nau.edu In a previous article, glens@natinst.com (Glen Sescila) says: > > Oops, I left out one quetion. Do these Mega-Demos use some sort >of video mode that I am unaware of or something. I have to adjust my >Vertical-Hold knob on my Multi-Sync monitor when I run most demos. This >is not a complaint! I am just curious if I am missing out on a special video >mode (I do a little Assembler dabbling myself). > The demos are in 50Hz. My monitor rolled as well when I first bought it. Basically, you have to adust it so it's stable for both 50Hz and 60Hz. -- Just on the border of your waking mind, there lies another time, where darkness and light are one. And as you tread the halls of sanity, you feel so glad to be unable to go beyond. I have a message from another time..... - ELO: "Prologue from the "Time" album -- Daicon IV Opening Animation gpinzone@george.poly.ed ------------------------------ End of Info-Atari16 Digest ******************************