Info-Atari16 Digest Wed, 16 Oct 91 Volume 91 : Issue 529 Today's Topics: C++ Data Diet Demo DXF TO POSTSCRIPT ON ATARI??? Gloom and doom in the UK? Message Router VMSmail Gateway nondelivery notification OS's People dumping machines (was.. Atari Mega 2 system.. for sale) Spectre GCR & MegaTalk Info Needed UK ST stuff Welcome to the Info-Atari16 Digest. The configuration for the automatic cross-posting to/from Usenet is getting closer, but still getting thrashed out. Please send notifications about broken digests or bogus messages to Info-Atari16-Request@NAUCSE.CSE.NAU.EDU. Please send requests for un/subscription and other administrivia to Info-Atari16-Request, *NOT* Info-Atari16. Requests that go to the list instead of the moderators are likely to be lost or ignored. If you want to unsubscribe, and you're receiving the digest indirectly from someplace (usually a BITNET host) that redistributes it, please contact the redistributor, not us. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: 4 Oct 91 09:53:06 GMT From: bloom-beacon!eru!hagbard!sunic!dkuug!aud.dk!soren@ucbvax.berkeley.edu (Soeren Michelsen) Subject: C++ To: Info-Atari16@naucse.cse.nau.edu Anyone know where to find a C++ compiler for the ST? I've been working with C++ on PC's for a while and badly want to be able to use the ST with a C++ compiler. Has GCC++ been ported yet, if so where do I find it? Also, if it has been ported, does it run under MiNT? (And where do I find MiNT!) There seems to be trouble with the computer I'm using here, but I have received answer from outta space. So just go ahead and mail me I *love* my ST!( ------------------------------ Date: 5 Oct 91 07:27:06 GMT From: noao!asuvax!cs.utexas.edu!qt.cs.utexas.edu!zaphod.mps.ohio-state.edu!menudo.uh. edu!uace0@arizona.edu (Michael B. Vederman) Subject: Data Diet Demo To: Info-Atari16@naucse.cse.nau.edu The Data Diet Demo has just been posted to the atari.archive.umich.edu ftp site. Data Diet is the Atari REALTIME compression program. Download this demo of Data Diet and trim the fat from your data storage system. This Data Diet Demo really works! With this demo you can put your .DOC files on a diet and see for yourself. Don't buy another hard disk! [Floppy disk users will require a RAMdisk.] 100% assembly. Program by Keith Gerdes. Copyright 1991 Double Click Software. All Rights Reserved. - mike vederman / double click software -- ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Double Click Me | Double Click Software | P.O. Box 741206 | Houston, Tx, 77274 ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Voice: (713)977-6520 | DC DESKTOP | DC FORMATTER | DC UTILITIES | and others ------------------------------ Date: 4 Oct 91 20:42:59 GMT From: bloom-beacon!eru!hagbard!sunic!lth.se!newsuser@ucbvax.berkeley.edu (Peter Tomaszewski) Subject: DXF TO POSTSCRIPT ON ATARI??? To: Info-Atari16@naucse.cse.nau.edu Is there a program available for st that converts DXF files to postscript? email :d88pt@efd.lth.se ------------------------------ Date: 5 Oct 91 06:51:41 GMT From: umich!uflorida!mailer.cc.fsu.edu!bind!boyd@yale.arpa (Mickey Boyd) Subject: Gloom and doom in the UK? To: Info-Atari16@naucse.cse.nau.edu neil@cs.hw.ac.uk (Neil Forsyth) writes: >Would you rather have Atari UK? You may have a raw deal but you 'aint hit >rock bottom yet! Strange, I got a very positive impression from a stack of UK ST magazines (july aug sept issues). Some Atari Inc. gripes, but overall lots of new products and interest. -- ---------------------------------+------------------------------------- Mickey R. Boyd | "Come to your senses professor FSU Computer Science | Fernberg. You did not transcend Technical Support Group | the time-space continuum. You email: boyd@nu.cs.fsu.edu | got drunk in a topless bar." ---------------------------------+------------------------------------- ------------------------------ ------------------------------ Date: 5 Oct 91 06:44:25 GMT From: noao!asuvax!cs.utexas.edu!sdd.hp.com!spool.mu.edu!tulane!uflorida!mailer.cc.fsu .edu!bind!boyd@arizona.edu (Mickey Boyd) Subject: OS's To: Info-Atari16@naucse.cse.nau.edu In article <1991Oct4.150440.1960@tripos.com>, downey@tripos.com (Tom Downey) writes: >I am a unix kinda guy and have been using gulam. >I am not completely happy (who is?) with it. >Is mint better? what about minix? You might try the Okami shell (from atari.archive). It is very nice, but you have to try to figure it out (unless you can read German). It is not to hard, and there is some minimal english documentation. It is like gulam in that it is just a shell, not a complete OS replacement. >Also am unhappy with my C compiler, "laser C", >it doesn't do some things that ANY C compiler >should. Such as: I am very very happy with Prospero C. You might (being a unix guy) try out gcc from atari.archive. -- ---------------------------------+------------------------------------- Mickey R. Boyd | "Come to your senses professor FSU Computer Science | Fernberg. You did not transcend Technical Support Group | the time-space continuum. You email: boyd@nu.cs.fsu.edu | got drunk in a topless bar." ---------------------------------+------------------------------------- ------------------------------ Date: 4 Oct 91 10:05:37 GMT From: bloom-beacon!eru!hagbard!sunic!lth.se!newsuser@ucbvax.berkeley.edu (Jerker Nilsson) Subject: People dumping machines (was.. Atari Mega 2 system.. for sale) To: Info-Atari16@naucse.cse.nau.edu > < Lot of stuff deletet here > >If you want to see a REAL blitter in action, check out an Amiga! > >_______________________________________________________________________________ > __ > I will not be pushed, filed, stamped, indexed, /// > briefed, debriefed, or numbered. __ /// Only Amiga makes > \\\/// it possible..... > My life is my own. \XX/ >_______________________________________________________________________________ > > england@u.washington.edu > >-- Agree, but I don't think we can adapt the Amiga blitter for the ST, can we? I am willing to give it a try if someone can mail *all* details of the (other 68K computer :-)-blitter to me. It may be worth an attempt, just for the fun of it... ------------------------------ Date: 5 Oct 91 09:13:18 GMT From: noao!asuvax!cs.utexas.edu!ut-emx!lad-shrike!milano!cactus.org!covert@arizona.ed u (Richard Covert) Subject: Spectre GCR & MegaTalk Info Needed To: Info-Atari16@naucse.cse.nau.edu Could someone who attends WAACE this weekend post if Dave Small had the new MegaTalk board for sale there? MegaTalk supposedly has a true Apple SCSI port so that you can hook up ANY Mac SCSI hardware device to it and run it under Spectre GCR. sounds really great, but there no news about the MegaTalk on Genie. so, has anyone seen it? I would like to buy one for my Mega st!! -- Richard E. Covert covert@cactus.org CACTUS ..!cs.utexas.edu!cactus.org!covert ------------------------------ Date: 5 Oct 91 06:30:22 GMT From: umich!uflorida!mailer.cc.fsu.edu!bind!boyd@yale.arpa (Mickey Boyd) Subject: UK ST stuff To: Info-Atari16@naucse.cse.nau.edu Hey folks, A buddy of mine just came back from a summer in England with an armload of ST mags. After reading them all, I must say I envy those folks. Lots and lots of neat ST hardware and software. Some notables that jumped out at me: Sun style optical mice, for you real masochists A memory board that allows one to use SIMMs in any ST (!) Many monitor options, including a full page mono. Lots of scanners and professional DTP utilities. About a zillion great looking games, including a completely rewritten Populous 2. I also noticed that hard disks seem to be VERY expensive, with the ICD FaST products being very popular. Neodesk and the Codehead suite seem to be tops in their class (nice to know us yanks are good for something). Dave Small and the Spectre GCR are also getting lots of attention (several of the mags have rather tongue-in-cheek recommendations for mac software). Each of the magazines came with a disk. They all contained at least one demo of a commerical game, and lots of other goodies including source code for various graphic thingies, Uniterm (2.0c, which is billed as "hot out of the programmers hands", sheesh), and the full commercial version of TCB Soundtracker with docs. Also, to give the readers something to assemble the included source with, Devpack v1 is included on one of the disks. All in all, I am impressed at the quality of the mags. They are about 70% game oriented (thats ok, I play games about 70% of the time :-), the rest being programming tutorials and professional reviews/tutorials. I know Sideline Software in Florida offers stateside subscriptions to these magazines. After seeing a bunch of them, I just might try one out for a year (kind of expensive, with the disk and all). Anyway, for those bemoaning the lack of "glossy" mags for the ST, you need only call SS's 1-800 number. I might have to order one of those memory boards also. An unpopulated one costs 59 pounds. SIMMS seem to be cheaper here also. -- ---------------------------------+------------------------------------- Mickey R. Boyd | "Come to your senses professor FSU Computer Science | Fernberg. You did not transcend Technical Support Group | the time-space continuum. You email: boyd@nu.cs.fsu.edu | got drunk in a topless bar." ---------------------------------+------------------------------------- ------------------------------ End of Info-Atari16 Digest ******************************