Info-Atari16 Digest Tue, 27 Aug 91 Volume 91 : Issue 453 Today's Topics: Atari ST Blank Rom Cards (3 msgs) Audio Digitizers Bob Brodie's address Bombs with The Vault 3.00 Gulam problems [was Re: long input lines under Gulam] (2 msgs) PRO FLIGHT Reading Amiga Disks ROMport switcher and Graphic card ST stuff for sale This is not a forsale issue (was Re: Atari ST Blank Rom Cards) Tos 2.0x coming to an STf(m) near you... NOT! (2 msgs) Welcome to the Info-Atari16 Digest. The configuration for the automatic cross-posting to/from Usenet is getting closer, but still getting thrashed out. Please send notifications about broken digests or bogus messages to Info-Atari16-Request@NAUCSE.CSE.NAU.EDU. Please send requests for un/subscription and other administrivia to Info-Atari16-Request, *NOT* Info-Atari16. Requests that go to the list instead of the moderators are likely to be lost or ignored. If you want to unsubscribe, and you're receiving the digest indirectly from someplace (usually a BITNET host) that redistributes it, please contact the redistributor, not us. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: 26 Aug 91 14:19:29 GMT From: noao!ncar!elroy.jpl.nasa.gov!swrinde!zaphod.mps.ohio-state.edu!magnus.acs.ohio- state.edu!dhbutler@arizona.edu (David H Butler) Subject: Atari ST Blank Rom Cards To: Info-Atari16@naucse.cse.nau.edu In article <1991Aug25.135243.11518@actrix.gen.nz> Roger.Sheppard@actrix.gen.nz (Roger Sheppard) writes: >In article <91235.121409COLLORA@LMUACAD.BITNET> write s: >> Hello Out there in Cyberspace... >> >> I am currently looking into converting an ATARI ST into a Macinotsh. I >> already have a set of MAC ROMS (64K ROMS, 128K ROMS) that I would need >> to plug into the atari. My question is, where can I get the blank ROM >> cards that go into the side the ST, and also, is there anything else >> special involved? I have the MAC OS already, and I already have a >> monitor. So that's no problem. All replies are greatly appreciated... >> >> Thank You for your time, >> >> Salvatore Collora >> COLLORA@LMUACAD.BITNET > > >This is Blatant Piracy and you should be Removed From the Net.. > >-- >*** Roger W. Sheppard * Roger.Sheppard@bbs.actrix.gen.nz *** >*** 85 Donovan Rd * * GEnie. R.SHEPPARD5 *** >*** Kapiti At least I don't Flicker, *** >*** New Zealand.. * not like a dying light globe *** Really? Is the Spectre GCR/128 also then blatant piracy? How about PCDITTO? For that matter, what about all the PC clones? The NewTek roms? If someone buys the Mac roms and wants to play around making a Mac-emulator at home, then more power to them. As for having the Mac OS, what makes you think this person did not just go out and purchase System 6.0.x or 7.0? That's what you have to do with the Spectre GCR, and it is not piracy. || || || - David Butler (dhbutler@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu) || || || || || || H H RRRR [ High Resolution DTP ] || || || HHHH R R [ 1996 Summit St. Apt. B ] || || || H High RRRR [ Columbus, Ohio 43201 ] ||| || ||| R Resolution [ voice: (614)-297-7967 ] |||| || |||| R R [ BUSINESS CALLS ONLY ] - Desktop Publishing -[ For Free ST consulting ]- -(Just a little plug for my company)- -[ the Columbus Ohio area ]- -[ call Academic Computing ]- -[ Services, 9am - 5pm ]- -[ Monday - Friday at: ]- -[ (614)-292-2919 ]- ------------------------------ Date: 26 Aug 91 23:50:08 GMT From: noao!ncar!asuvax!cs.utexas.edu!qt.cs.utexas.edu!zaphod.mps.ohio-state.edu!moe.k su.ksu.edu!unmvax!nmt.edu!jcksnsr@arizona.edu (JC) Subject: Atari ST Blank Rom Cards To: Info-Atari16@naucse.cse.nau.edu In article <1991Aug25.135243.11518@actrix.gen.nz> Roger.Sheppard@actrix.gen.nz (Roger Sheppard) writes: >In article <91235.121409COLLORA@LMUACAD.BITNET> writes: > >This is Blatant Piracy and you should be Removed From the Net.. > >-- >*** Roger W. Sheppard * Roger.Sheppard@bbs.actrix.gen.nz *** >*** 85 Donovan Rd * * GEnie. R.SHEPPARD5 *** >*** Kapiti At least I don't Flicker, *** >*** New Zealand.. * not like a dying light globe *** It is? Please explain.. I don't see anything that indicates piracy directly... having a set of Mac ROMs is legal, so is having a copy of the Mac OS if correct procedure is followed (IE you obtained it in a legal manner). I see nothing more than someone perhaps trying to reverse engineer Magic Sac which is impressive if successful... JEff ------------------------------ Date: 27 Aug 91 02:36:47 GMT From: noao!ncar!asuvax!cs.utexas.edu!utgpu!utzoo!lsuc!jimomura@arizona.edu (Jim Omura) Subject: Atari ST Blank Rom Cards To: Info-Atari16@naucse.cse.nau.edu In article <1991Aug25.171636.2275@noose.ecn.purdue.edu> yegerleh@vivaldi.ecn.purdue.edu (James D Yegerlehner) writes: >In article <1991Aug25.135243.11518@actrix.gen.nz>, Roger.Sheppard@actrix.gen.nz (Roger Sheppard) writes: >> In article <91235.121409COLLORA@LMUACAD.BITNET> writes: .. >> This is Blatant Piracy and you should be Removed From the Net.. >> >Huh? What in the original poster's message makes you think that there >is any piracy going on? Is it not possible that these are perfectly >legal Apple ROMs (such as those used in Spectres)? And as far as finder >goes, am I mistaken in believing that Apple allows it to be freely >copied? Maybe I'm missing something here, but if not, you are reckless Apple claims full Copyright protection of their ROMs. >and should not be so quick to make accusations of felonius behaviour. The posting is not clear, and it's pretty clear that this is because the guy who posted it doesn't really know what he's doing. But I agree that it sounds to me that what he wants to do is perfectly legal. He doesn't want to burn copies of the ROMs, he wants to stick them in a ROM Cartridge under the mistaken assumption that this will turn it into a Mac. As you point out, Spectre GCR (or the older cartridge port adapters) are much more than just ROM cartridges in the sense he seems to be thinking of them. -- Jim Omura, 2A King George's Drive, Toronto, (416) 652-3880 lsuc!jimomura Byte Information eXchange: jimomura ------------------------------ Date: 26 Aug 91 14:42:02 GMT From: noao!ncar!elroy.jpl.nasa.gov!swrinde!cs.utexas.edu!natinst!glens@arizona.edu (Glen Sescila) Subject: Audio Digitizers To: Info-Atari16@naucse.cse.nau.edu Hello, What are the most popular sound digitizers for the ST's and STE's? Also, do any of them digitize stereo on the STE? And what price range are we looking at for these devices? Thanks, -- ----------------------------------------------------------------------------- My opinions do not necessarily reflect those of my employer and probably are exact opposites. glens@natinst.com ----------------------------------------------------------------------------- ------------------------------ Date: 27 Aug 91 01:19:40 GMT From: fernwood!portal!cup.portal.com!Bob_BobR_Retelle@uunet.uu.net Subject: Bob Brodie's address To: Info-Atari16@naucse.cse.nau.edu Len Stys asks: >Does anyone have Bob Brodie's Internet or CompuServe address? I don't have Bob's CompuServe PPN handy right here, but his direct telephone number is: (408) 745-2052 One caveat... with his recent promotion, he may have also gotten a new office phone number, so I can't guarantee this one is still valid, but it should get you started. A call would probably be best, since Bob seldom reads UseNet, and very seldom uses CompuServe. BobR ------------------------------ Date: 27 Aug 91 08:32:22 GMT From: mcsun!unido!pbinfo!marc@uunet.uu.net (Marc Gumbold) Subject: Bombs with The Vault 3.00 To: Info-Atari16@naucse.cse.nau.edu I've got trouble with Bob Fischer's new (3.00) edition of his "Vault". The program looks a good deal nicer now indeed, but unfortunately I got the following error, which makes the whole tool worthless. Using unformatted disks and two disk drives normally the box "I can't read this disk" (or something like that) comes up when accessing the next disk in the other drive, after completing the write to the disk in the first drive. I usually click "format" there and go ahead. But two times (well, after the first time I removed _everything_ special from my setup, all acc's, all resident stuff, ending up with a factory- clean setup) I got _two_bombs_ instead of that box, and the program exited. The problem occured first after the second or third disk, and the second time when accessing the 11th disk. This is quite annoying. Did somebody else run into similar trouble? Is the author on the net? (Hiya, Bob!) My configuration is, what I would say, rather normal: 520 ST+ with 2 MB, 30 MB harddisk, 2 floppies, monochrome monitor, TOS 1.4. As I said, I removed all potential obstacles from memory. I didn't know this problem from the older Vault version, which was already quite nice. But I would like to use 3.00, if possible. If there is any fix or hint (aside from using pre-formatted disks, which I will try next), please let me know. -Marc -- marc gumbold marc@uni-paderborn.de ..... save trees -- eat a beaver nordstrasse 29, 4934 horn-bad meinberg, germany (west) ------------------------------ Date: 26 Aug 91 14:17:04 GMT From: europa.asd.contel.com!noc.sura.net!haven.umd.edu!wam.umd.edu!dmb@uunet.uu.net (David M. Baggett) Subject: Gulam problems [was Re: long input lines under Gulam] To: Info-Atari16@naucse.cse.nau.edu In article <3030@atari.UUCP> apratt@atari.UUCP (Allan Pratt) writes: >dmb@wam.umd.edu (David M. Baggett) writes: >>3: The ... operator doesn't ever work at all, at least on my 2.5Meg ST >>with TOS 1.4. It just works for a while and then locks up the machine. > >I believe this is not Gulam's fault, because "..." always works for me. >Hmmm... Do you run POOLFIX3? It is a program which fixes a bug in TOS 1.4 >(and also 2.01 and 3.01), and that bug will EASILY be triggered by the >stuff that "..." does: lots of malloc'ing and lots of directory traversals. >Do you run FOLDR100? Do. TOS 1.4 drastically improves the situation with >respect to the 40-folder problem, but does not make it go away completely. Yup, I'm running both POOLFIX3 and FOLDR150. Perhaps it has to do with the depth of my directory tree? Dave Baggett dmb@wam.umd.edu ------------------------------ Date: 26 Aug 91 17:55:58 GMT From: fernwood!portal!atari!apratt@uunet.uu.net (Allan Pratt) Subject: Gulam problems [was Re: long input lines under Gulam] To: Info-Atari16@naucse.cse.nau.edu Roger.Sheppard@actrix.gen.nz (Roger Sheppard) writes: >Can you tell me if POOLFIX3 is needed with TOS1.6 or 1.62. ? Yes. 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" : HAl9000 <<<<<< >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>><<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<< ------------------------------ Date: 26 Aug 91 14:05:12 GMT From: noao!ncar!elroy.jpl.nasa.gov!swrinde!zaphod.mps.ohio-state.edu!magnus.acs.ohio- state.edu!dhbutler@arizona.edu (David H Butler) Subject: Reading Amiga Disks To: Info-Atari16@naucse.cse.nau.edu In article <1991Aug24.081254.15698@actrix.gen.nz> Roger.Sheppard@actrix.gen.nz (Roger Sheppard) writes: >In article <16601@skye.dcs.ed.ac.uk> Al_Crawford@edinburgh.ac.uk (Al Crawford) writes: >> Anyone know of a utility that'll allow me to read bog-standard Amiga disks >> on a bog-standard DS Atari drive? I don't need the ability to write, or >> format or anything like that, just the ability to pull a file off an Amiga >> disk and spit it out as a TOS format file on an ST disk. >> >> -- >> Al Crawford - Al_Crawford@edinburgh.ac.uk >> "Such a digital lifetime, it's been by numbers all the while" > >Well it can't be done, the Amiga uses a none standard type format, >they don't even use CRC to check there data, and even the index mark.. > > >-- >*** Roger W. Sheppard * Roger.Sheppard@bbs.actrix.gen.nz *** >*** 85 Donovan Rd * * GEnie. R.SHEPPARD5 *** >*** Kapiti At least I don't Flicker, *** >*** New Zealand.. * not like a dying light globe *** If you get Cross-Dos for the Amiga you can write DOS format disks in it, and then you will have no problem reading them in your ST! Note that I've never tried this myself, but it should work just fine... || || || - David Butler (dhbutler@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu) || || || || || || H H RRRR [ High Resolution DTP ] || || || HHHH R R [ 1996 Summit St. Apt. B ] || || || H High RRRR [ Columbus, Ohio 43201 ] ||| || ||| R Resolution [ voice: (614)-297-7967 ] |||| || |||| R R [ BUSINESS CALLS ONLY ] - Desktop Publishing -[ For Free ST consulting ]- -(Just a little plug for my company)- -[ the Columbus Ohio area ]- -[ call Academic Computing ]- -[ Services, 9am - 5pm ]- -[ Monday - Friday at: ]- -[ (614)-292-2919 ]- ------------------------------ Date: 26 Aug 91 21:22:11 GMT From: mcsun!news.funet.fi!fuug!nntp.hut.fi!saha.hut.fi!s37837k@uunet.uu.net (Jari Lehto) Subject: ROMport switcher and Graphic card To: Info-Atari16@naucse.cse.nau.edu Hello, Atarians! Few things I would like to know: First: I need a switcher to use two key-protected MIDI-applications under MROS. Can you help me to find one which works well and is relatively cheap. It can be for 2 or 3 cartridges. Second: Can anyone tell me which graphic cards do work with Spectre. I am looking for ones capable to 800x600 or 1024x768 pixels. Amount of colors is not important, Spectre is 2 colors anyway... * Jari Lehto * 90-387939 * Jari.Lehto@hut.fi * Music, love & * * Tenavatie 19 A * 90-382887 * jartsu@vipunen.hut.fi * friendship! * * 00760 HELSINKI * 94040/02887 * jartsu@otax.hut.fi * Garlic, beer &* * Finland * fax +358 0 8735916 * s37837k@saha.hut.fi * sausage! * ------------------------------ Date: 27 Aug 91 05:46:04 GMT From: ogicse!orstcs!mist.CS.ORST.EDU!vovut@uunet.uu.net Subject: ST stuff for sale To: Info-Atari16@naucse.cse.nau.edu I have some surplus ST hardware that I would like to get rid of: * SM124 Monochrome monitor - $70 It's in good condition. I'm upgrading to a multisync. * Video Key - $45 Connect ST to TV or VCR. Has RCA audio and video jacks. * Magic Sac Plus - $25 For those that don't know, this emulates a Macintosh. Comes with 64K ROMs and Epstart. * Switch/Back - $20 I haven't used this much. It allows you to switch between programs at the push of a button. Prices do not include shipping. If interested, please email to vovut@prism.cs.orst.edu ------------------------------ Date: 27 Aug 91 05:27:23 GMT From: noao!ncar!asuvax!cs.utexas.edu!qt.cs.utexas.edu!zaphod.mps.ohio-state.edu!magnu s.acs.ohio-state.edu!usenet.ins.cwru.edu!cleveland.Freenet.Edu!an602@arizona.ed u (James M. Bernatowicz) Subject: This is not a forsale issue (was Re: Atari ST Blank Rom Cards) To: Info-Atari16@naucse.cse.nau.edu >In article <1991Aug25.135243.11518@actrix.gen.nz> Roger.Sheppard@actrix.gen.nz (Roger Sheppard) writes: > >This is Blatant Piracy and you should be Removed From the Net.. This thread is being cross-posted to misc.forsale.computers. When you follow up, please narrow the distribution. Many thanks! -- ---------------------.-----------------------------------------------. | Jim Bernatowicz | Spring: Bowling Green St Univ - Graduated! | | | Summer: Off to Eastman Kodak, Rochester, NY | | Cleveland FN: an602 | Fall: Start at The University of Michigan | ------------------------------ Date: 26 Aug 91 16:53:37 GMT From: noao!ncar!elroy.jpl.nasa.gov!swrinde!zaphod.mps.ohio-state.edu!sol.ctr.columbia .edu!ira.uka.de!fauern!faui43.informatik.uni-erlangen.de!csbrod@arizona.edu (Claus Brod) Subject: Tos 2.0x coming to an STf(m) near you... NOT! To: Info-Atari16@naucse.cse.nau.edu apalmer@pyrtech.pyramid.com (Albert "Earthquake" Palmer) writes: >My Atari monitor sits on top of my TT without any problems. Before you >make the statement the NO monitor can sit on a TT, you should ask >TT owners on the net. I know of two other TTs that work fine with >the monitor on top. My TT also has serious interference problems when its VGA monitor sits on top of it. No problems, though, with the 19" monitor standing next to the machine, but with the PTC1426 I sometimes get alert boxes when reading disks. They vanish as soon as I switch off the VGA monitor... So this problem is REAL! ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Claus Brod, Am Felsenkeller 2, Things. Take. Time. D-8772 Marktheidenfeld, Germany (Piet Hein) csbrod@medusa.informatik.uni-erlangen.de Claus_Brod@wue.maus.de ---------------------------------------------------------------------- --- ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Claus Brod, Am Felsenkeller 2, Things. Take. Time. D-8772 Marktheidenfeld, Germany (Piet Hein) csbrod@medusa.informatik.uni-erlangen.de Claus_Brod@wue.maus.de ---------------------------------------------------------------------- ------------------------------ Date: 27 Aug 91 00:12:03 GMT From: mintaka!bloom-beacon!eru!hagbard!sunic!isgate!krafla!adamd@yale.arpa (Adam David) Subject: Tos 2.0x coming to an STf(m) near you... NOT! To: Info-Atari16@naucse.cse.nau.edu In <683052185.0@therip.FidoNet> Rod.Fulk@f24.n228.z1.FidoNet.Org (Rod Fulk) writes: >Yes but if my figuring is right the to 2.x SHOULD be able to fit... >I realize the 6 chip sets get 192k by using 6 256k chips... [...] >However in the 2 chip sets which use 1meg chips... >You have 2048 available bits.. ~~~~ Of course you mean kilobits. >However if the extra bits are addressable on them I havent looked.. ;-) The top 64k (bytes) is not addressable with the standard glue chip. By applying a hardware patch to the GLUE it is possible to get an extra 32k of general purpose ROM space and also 32k of instruction-only ROM space which would fully utilise the 256k available on the two 1-Mbit ROM chips. It is simpler to retrofit the new TOS by patching GLUE so that the ROM sits at the new base address. I wouldn't be surprised if this is the way it was done. -- Adam David. adamd@rhi.hi.is ------------------------------ End of Info-Atari16 Digest ******************************