Info-Atari16 Digest Sat, 17 Aug 91 Volume 91 : Issue 441 Today's Topics: Atari earnings Atari Sales Atari Show - how much? (2 msgs) ATW adon for ST's (was RE: CD-I) DC Snowball Fight (bug fix for 512K machines) GCC1.40 for tos Lap-link type program? for ST/TT? maccel3.4 Puting a pixel to screen SM124 4sale Spectre 256k ROM support (was: System 7 and S Spectre 256k ROM support (was: System 7 and Spectre GCR) (2 msgs) Unix for TT ??? (2 msgs) v_opnwk call (was Dialog Boxes) Weekly Posting of New Stuff Welcome to the Info-Atari16 Digest. The configuration for the automatic cross-posting to/from Usenet is getting closer, but still getting thrashed out. Please send notifications about broken digests or bogus messages to Info-Atari16-Request@NAUCSE.CSE.NAU.EDU. Please send requests for un/subscription and other administrivia to Info-Atari16-Request, *NOT* Info-Atari16. Requests that go to the list instead of the moderators are likely to be lost or ignored. If you want to unsubscribe, and you're receiving the digest indirectly from someplace (usually a BITNET host) that redistributes it, please contact the redistributor, not us. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: 16 Aug 91 17:35:51 GMT From: cunixf.cc.columbia.edu!cunixb.cc.columbia.edu!cmm1@rutgers.rutgers.edu (Christopher M Mauritz) Subject: Atari earnings To: Info-Atari16@naucse.cse.nau.edu In article <1991Aug14.160518.24023@chinet.chi.il.us> saj@chinet.chi.il.us (Stephen Jacobs) writes: >Atari's earnings were just printed in the Wall Street Journal. The plant sale >was so much bigger than anything else that a meaningful interpretation of the >report would take a lot more information than the little bit in the announce- >ment. Two things were noticeable, though: sales were off again, and they seem >to have gotten a better price for the plant than originally reported (about >$40 million, rather than mid-30s). At heart, I don't think Atari is a real >estate company, so the future depends on a supply of machines that people >want to buy. Steve, I have seen the earnings report too. It isn't good. A computer company cannot survive unless it sells machines. Atari's sales as you have noted above, have again decreased. They are quickly losing their market share in Europe now also. The lionshare of the "earnings" they reported were the result of savings due to repurchasing some of their existing debt and the sale of their plant in Taiwan. A useful analogy here would be: TWA reports an increase in earnings. However, those earnings were due to the fact that they sold off 5 747's (a source of revenue) and some of their landing slots. They had less customers this year, but hey, they made a little money on selling thos planes, eh? Who cares if people prefer to fly United now? While this is intended to be very sarcastic, it isn't THAT far from the truth in this case. Just check out the price of Atari stock to see how much investor confidence there is in your favorite computer company. I think it is hovering just over $2/share. Gee, that is just where it has been since a year ago...what a coincidence. :-) Cheers, Chris --------------+---------------------------------------------------------- Chris Mauritz | Cuba's *superior* human rights record is only part of the | answer; it's superior social conditions are another. --------------| -Harel Barzilai- ------------------------------ Date: 16 Aug 91 17:56:47 GMT From: cunixf.cc.columbia.edu!cunixa.cc.columbia.edu!cmm1@rutgers.rutgers.edu (Christopher M Mauritz) Subject: Atari Sales To: Info-Atari16@naucse.cse.nau.edu It is worth noting that Atari's sales in their most recent earnings report was only about 58% of the sales for the same period last year. That sounds like a dramatic drop off to me. So how does one report sales of $49.2 million and net income of 30.4 million anyway? Especially, a company like Atari??? I smell some "creative accounting" practices here. Cheers, Chris --------------+---------------------------------------------------------- Chris Mauritz | Cuba's *superior* human rights record is only part of the | answer; it's superior social conditions are another. --------------| -Harel Barzilai- ------------------------------ Date: 16 Aug 91 14:59:21 GMT From: mcsun!unido!gmdzi!focke@uunet.uu.net (Stefan Focke) Subject: Atari Show - how much? To: Info-Atari16@naucse.cse.nau.edu struppi@cip-s01.informatik.rwth-aachen.de (Stefan Rupp) writes: >In article <9108130959.aa23637@castle.ed.ac.uk> eang62@castle.edinburgh.ac.uk (Herbert Sauro) writes: >> >>Dear Netters, >> >>Does anybody know how much (I assume its not free) the enterance fee is >>for the Atari show in Germany? Hello! Here are the real prices: 8 DM normal 4 DM for students ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Stefan Focke Tel. 02241-14-2265 GMD-Z2.W e-mail: focke@gmdzi.gmd.de (Internet) Postfach 1240 focke@zi.gmd.dbp.de (EAN) 5205 St. Augustin 1 ------------------------------ Date: 15 Aug 91 23:14:54 GMT From: mcsun!unido!horga!nathan!ue@uunet.uu.net (Udo Erdelhoff) Subject: Atari Show - how much? To: Info-Atari16@naucse.cse.nau.edu In <9108130959.aa23637@castle.ed.ac.uk>, Herbert Sauro writes: >Does anybody know how much (I assume its not free) the enterance fee is >for the Atari show in Germany? I've written to Atari and (suprisingly) >they sent me their show blurb but no hint as to how much it might cost >to enter. Which one do you mean? If you mean the fair at Duesseldorf, you'll have to pay something around 8-10 DM for a day ticket. >One other question, why does a TT cost almost as much as a decent Mac >in the UK while in Germany its almost a 1000 pounds cheaper? Rumors says that Atari earns half it's money here in Germany. This might be the reason... /s/ -- Udo Erdelhoff ue@nathan.ruhr.de Fido: Udo Erdelhoff on 2:245/52.1 ------------------------------ Date: 16 Aug 91 17:21:16 GMT From: cunixf.cc.columbia.edu!cunixb.cc.columbia.edu!cmm1@rutgers.rutgers.edu (Christopher M Mauritz) Subject: ATW adon for ST's (was RE: CD-I) To: Info-Atari16@naucse.cse.nau.edu In article <1991Aug12.203647.431@newcastle.ac.uk> D.C.Halliday@newcastle.ac.uk (Dave Halliday) writes: >|>Another Atari product mentioned in the online mags was a >super-graphics engine >|>based on a RISC processor that connected to the ST DMA port. It was >supposed >|>to be designed in England, so I hope some UK net readers can keep everyone >|>abrest of its development and availability. >|> > >Um, there are rumors abound about an ATW adon board for the VME equiped >ST's (ie. Mega STe and TT) according to ST Format this board is basically >the transputer part of an ATW complete with its RISC based very high res >colour graphics processor and a number of T800 transputers. I believe the >board is being worked on by Atari UK and perehelion. According to ST >Format the price could be very reasonable to. So any guesses when this >STT (ST Transputer?) is likly to be available, if ever? > >While talking about the ATW it is now available for 2500pounds with >educational discount. (Thats Half price!) So what? You can go out right now and buy a 21 MIP Sun SPARCstation ELC for the same price in the US (about US$5,000). Wouldn't it be better to own a SUPPORTED workstation that runs a real unix and that you could do real development work on? Regards, Chris p.s. That $5K figure is LIST price, not educational discount. That is probably even much cheaper. --------------+---------------------------------------------------------- Chris Mauritz | Cuba's *superior* human rights record is only part of the | answer; it's superior social conditions are another. --------------| -Harel Barzilai- ------------------------------ Date: 16 Aug 91 13:59:19 GMT From: noao!ncar!elroy.jpl.nasa.gov!sdd.hp.com!wupost!udel!haven.umd.edu!wam.umd.edu!d mb@arizona.edu (David M. Baggett) Subject: DC Snowball Fight (bug fix for 512K machines) To: Info-Atari16@naucse.cse.nau.edu The version of DC Snowball Fight posted to atari.archive last week has a tiny bug which prevents it from running on 512K machines. Version 1.1 of the game fixes the problem and is available from atari.archive now. Thanks! Dave Baggett dmb@wam.umd.edu ------------------------------ Date: 16 Aug 91 15:11:11 GMT From: mcsun!hp4nl!alchemy!piet@uunet.uu.net (Piet van Oostrum) Subject: GCC1.40 for tos To: Info-Atari16@naucse.cse.nau.edu Hi! I am a bit confused at which files I need for the newest GCC for TOS. Actually, I want to have a TOS cross compiler on Unix. I do have the GNU GCC 1.40 distribution sources. And I have the mint libraries (v 10). Any help is highly appreciated. -- Piet* van Oostrum, Dept of Computer Science, Utrecht University, Padualaan 14, P.O. Box 80.089, 3508 TB Utrecht, The Netherlands. Telephone: +31 30 531806 Uucp: uunet!mcsun!ruuinf!piet Telefax: +31 30 513791 Internet: piet@cs.ruu.nl (*`Pete') ------------------------------ Date: 15 Aug 91 08:01:38 GMT From: mcsun!news.funet.fi!funic!nic.funet.fi!lahtinen@uunet.uu.net (Kimmo Lahtinen) Subject: Lap-link type program? for ST/TT? To: Info-Atari16@naucse.cse.nau.edu There is a firm called Lacom (?) in Germany which makes a HD-controller that can link two computers to one disk (even a PC or MAC). I have seen only an add so I do not know if it really works. -- * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * Kimmo Lahtinen E-Mail : lahtinen@gideon.fmi.fi or Finnish Meteorological Institute kimmo@field.fi Phone : +358 0 758 1322 Possessed by a Spirit G3 Fax : +358 0 758 1396 ------------------------------ Date: 16 Aug 91 21:11:59 GMT From: sae!malay@uunet.uu.net (Bob Malay) Subject: maccel3.4 To: Info-Atari16@naucse.cse.nau.edu Where is maccel3.4 on a.a? Is it available? If its available but not on a.a can somebody email an arc'ed and uudecoded version to me? Thanks, Bob Malay ------------------------------ Date: 16 Aug 91 21:27:21 GMT From: comp.vuw.ac.nz!actrix!Alex.Valdez@uunet.uu.net (Alex Valdez) Subject: Puting a pixel to screen To: Info-Atari16@naucse.cse.nau.edu In article lahtinen@gideon.gideon.fmi.fi (Kimmo Lahtinen) writes: > I want to know what is now the "official" way to put a pixel to screen. > I have read form this group that Line-A is not a good idea, but I did > not find any simple pixel routines from VDI. > > I hope it is not too slow. > -- > * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * > > Kimmo Lahtinen E-Mail : lahtinen@gideon.fmi.fi or > Finnish Meteorological Institute kimmo@field.fi > Phone : +358 0 758 1322 > Possessed by a Spirit G3 Fax : +358 0 758 1396 You have to draw a line from and to the same point. -- ================================Alex Valdez============================= "Alas sais na naman, oras ng pagdidili-dili... Isaisip ang mabuti, ang masama'y iwaksi..." ------------------------------ Date: 17 Aug 91 06:13:53 GMT From: ub!csn!boulder!horton.Colorado.EDU!chuj@rutgers.rutgers.edu (CHU JEFFREY) Subject: SM124 4sale To: Info-Atari16@naucse.cse.nau.edu I need to sell the sm124 monitor. $115.00 chuj@horton.colorado.edu chuj@spot.colorado.edu Thanks Jeff ------------------------------ Date: 17 Aug 91 00:25:36 GMT From: arizona.edu!cerritos.edu!nic.csu.net!usc!zaphod.mps.ohio-state.edu!@arizona.edu (Chuck Rickard; ACS (UGRAD)) Subject: Spectre 256k ROM support (was: System 7 and S To: Info-Atari16@naucse.cse.nau.edu In article <1991Aug16.175233.28468@cunixf.cc.columbia.edu> cmm1@cunixa.cc.columbia.edu (Christopher M Mauritz) writes: >I remember reading "way back when" and article by Dave Small in which >he said that Apple made it VERY difficult to purchase 256K ROMS. Since >his Spectre relies on the buyer being able to plug in Apple ROMs, it isn't >surprising to me that he hasn't supported this yet. He is walking a very >fine line with Apple when it comes to litigation. His operation is small >enough that it would take VERY LITTLE effort for Apple to put him out of >business so I can see why he is being very careful about this. He even >put in code to try to detect EEPROMS with illegal copies of 128K ROMs >in the hope that it would keep pirates from directing Apple's anger at >him. I don't blame him at all. Dave Small has been looking into the new Mac ROM clone chips being designed by NuTek for their clone systems. NuTek has said publically that they make their chips available for other clone makers that were interested, so if they actually do get them out, Dave should have no problem using them for the "Spectre 256". On the subject of the new chips, I heard that they will have the Motif user interface instead of Finder (along with a few new calls for other great features) while still retaining all compatibility with the previous and current ROMS. From what I read in MacWorld, they are pretty close to completion. Their lawyers are working at full steam to keep Apple from shutting them down. Apple really doesn't have any legal ground to stand on in a case against NuTek, however. -- Chuck Rickard (chuck@umbc5.umbc.edu) ------------------------------ Date: 16 Aug 91 18:07:00 GMT From: milton!iho@beaver.cs.washington.edu (Il Oh) Subject: Spectre 256k ROM support (was: System 7 and Spectre GCR) To: Info-Atari16@naucse.cse.nau.edu bry@cbnewsf.cb.att.com (bryan.nystrom) writes: >I also read last night on GEnie that Dave is VERY seriously considering >going after the 256K ROM emulation. He had put out "Feelers" about a >month or so ago as to how much interest people would have in the 256K version >and WHY they wanted it. Putting out "Feelers" was much the same way that >the 128K Spectre and the SST board came about being done. He did state that >color MAC support (Color Quickdraw) could only be supported on 68020's and >above (read: maybe the SST), though he didn't say for sure that he would >be trying for that. Aren't the 256K ROMs even harder to get a hold of than those 128K ROMs are now? What good is a new cartridge to use it if we can't get the ROMs? -- Il Hwan Oh |"Sometimes of late years I find myself thinking Univ. of Washington, Tacoma | the most beautiful sight in the world might be iho@cac.washington.edu | the birds taking over New York City after the | last man has run away to the hills" ------------------------------ Date: 16 Aug 91 17:52:33 GMT From: cunixf.cc.columbia.edu!cunixa.cc.columbia.edu!cmm1@rutgers.rutgers.edu (Christopher M Mauritz) Subject: Spectre 256k ROM support (was: System 7 and Spectre GCR) To: Info-Atari16@naucse.cse.nau.edu In article <1991Aug16.173952.11126@cbfsb.att.com> bry@cbnewsf.cb.att.com (bryan.nystrom) writes: >From article <83370@brunix.UUCP>, by mjv@brownvm.brown.edu (Marshall Vale): >> In article <31604@know.pws.bull.com> JUDD@CC49.CRL.AECL.CA writes: >>> I am trying to bring up the System 7 Mac operating system under Spectre >> 3.0. I >>> built the System 7 version I am using to run on a MacPlus without >> printer and >>> network services. So far no luck. >> >> Currently System 7 does not work on Spectre (any version). It's in the >> hands of Mr. Small as to when it will work. This is a major system >> revision with many things changed so it might take him awhile but this is >> Dave, so it'll be done. >I also read last night on GEnie that Dave is VERY seriously considering >going after the 256K ROM emulation. He had put out "Feelers" about a >month or so ago as to how much interest people would have in the 256K version >and WHY they wanted it. Putting out "Feelers" was much the same way that >the 128K Spectre and the SST board came about being done. He did state that >color MAC support (Color Quickdraw) could only be supported on 68020's and >above (read: maybe the SST), though he didn't say for sure that he would >be trying for that. I remember reading "way back when" and article by Dave Small in which he said that Apple made it VERY difficult to purchase 256K ROMS. Since his Spectre relies on the buyer being able to plug in Apple ROMs, it isn't surprising to me that he hasn't supported this yet. He is walking a very fine line with Apple when it comes to litigation. His operation is small enough that it would take VERY LITTLE effort for Apple to put him out of business so I can see why he is being very careful about this. He even put in code to try to detect EEPROMS with illegal copies of 128K ROMs in the hope that it would keep pirates from directing Apple's anger at him. I don't blame him at all. Cheers, Chris --------------+---------------------------------------------------------- Chris Mauritz | Cuba's *superior* human rights record is only part of the | answer; it's superior social conditions are another. --------------| -Harel Barzilai- ------------------------------ Date: 16 Aug 91 17:27:25 GMT From: cunixf.cc.columbia.edu!cunixb.cc.columbia.edu!cmm1@rutgers.rutgers.edu (Christopher M Mauritz) Subject: Unix for TT ??? To: Info-Atari16@naucse.cse.nau.edu In article lahtinen@gideon.gideon.fmi.fi (Kimmo Lahtinen) writes: > >I noticed some time ago a question about the availability of TT Unix, >but did not see any answers. I have seen even a price for it, but >can you really buy it somewhere? You haven't seen if for sale because it isn't ready yet. Remember how long before "Rainbow TOS" came out after it was "known to exist?" I wouldn't hold your breath waiting. >By the way am I correct that it is based on Mach kernel? I don't know, but I don't suspect you'll see any answers forthcoming from Atari. Cheers, Chris --------------+---------------------------------------------------------- Chris Mauritz | Cuba's *superior* human rights record is only part of the | answer; it's superior social conditions are another. --------------| -Harel Barzilai- ------------------------------ Date: 15 Aug 91 23:31:08 GMT From: mcsun!unido!horga!nathan!ue@uunet.uu.net (Udo Erdelhoff) Subject: Unix for TT ??? To: Info-Atari16@naucse.cse.nau.edu In , Kimmo Lahtinen writes: > >I noticed some time ago a question about the availability of TT Unix, >but did not see any answers. I have seen even a price for it, but >can you really buy it somewhere? Not now, allthough Atari promised the first machines to be delivered to some selected registered developers in April (that's what they told me on CeBit 91). The Unix-TT (or better, TT-X, as Atari called it) is an TT030/8 with a 200 meg harddisk, 19" monochrome monitor, Unix SYSVR4, C-Compiler, some kind of window system (I think it was Motif/X11) including developers tools (must be something like the Open Windows Guide from SUN). The price was something around 8000 DM (4500-5000 US-$) incl. VAT. All information without guarantee.... [personal opinion on] If the price and the technical details are right, it's the cheapest Unix machine I've ever heard of. Add another 4-8 Megs of Ram and about 200 MB of hard disk space and away you go... /s/ -- Udo Erdelhoff ue@nathan.ruhr.de Fido: Udo Erdelhoff on 2:245/52.1 ------------------------------ Date: 15 Aug 91 23:34:04 GMT From: mcsun!unido!horga!nathan!ue@uunet.uu.net (Udo Erdelhoff) Subject: v_opnwk call (was Dialog Boxes) To: Info-Atari16@naucse.cse.nau.edu In <1991Aug15.174412.26327@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu>, Joseph W Reiss writes: >Does this mean that some enterprising utility creator out there could >write an auto folder program that would allow GEM programs to run in >the AUTO folder by calling v_opnwk() and closing the workstation at >the end of the AUTO sequence? If so, why hasn't anyone done it? Yep, that's possible. And someone has already done it. 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