Info-Atari16 Digest Thu, 15 Aug 91 Volume 91 : Issue 433 Today's Topics: Atari Messe Help. beast Compression (background) Double Click Software east coast bbs's and user groups Ftp beginner's guide Hardware goodies in US??? The University of Michigan Archives Uploading to atari.archive and comp.{b,s}.atari.st Using a big hard disk (2 msgs) UW "The Server Side" Weekly Posting of New Stuff Welcome to the Info-Atari16 Digest. The configuration for the automatic cross-posting to/from Usenet is getting closer, but still getting thrashed out. Please send notifications about broken digests or bogus messages to Info-Atari16-Request@NAUCSE.CSE.NAU.EDU. Please send requests for un/subscription and other administrivia to Info-Atari16-Request, *NOT* Info-Atari16. Requests that go to the list instead of the moderators are likely to be lost or ignored. If you want to unsubscribe, and you're receiving the digest indirectly from someplace (usually a BITNET host) that redistributes it, please contact the redistributor, not us. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: 11 Aug 91 18:28:34 GMT From: noao!ncar!elroy.jpl.nasa.gov!sdd.hp.com!zaphod.mps.ohio-state.edu!menudo.uh.edu !uace0@arizona.edu (ATARI Computer Enthusiasts) Subject: Atari Messe Help. To: Info-Atari16@naucse.cse.nau.edu Help! Double Click Software is looking to borrow an ST equipped with AT-SPEED for use at the Atari Messe in Duesseldorf. We will need to borrow the machine for the entire show. We will provide any helpful individual with a free pass for all days of the show, plus a copy of our software packages. We can arrange to pick the ST up if it fits in our travel plans. We will be in Frankfurt, Munich, Wiesbaden and Duesseldorf before the opening of the show, but we could travel by train to get the equipment. Please reply in EMAIL to: uace0@menudo.uh.edu <-- (that's a zero - uace0) If you can help us out. We would **greatly** appreciate any help. Thank you. And now back to the news. - mike -- ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Double Click Me | Double Click Software | P.O. Box 741206 | Houston, Tx, 77274 ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Voice: (713)977-6520 | DC DESKTOP | DC FORMATTER | DC UTILITIES | and others ------------------------------ Date: 11 Aug 91 17:01:59 GMT From: noao!ncar!elroy.jpl.nasa.gov!usc!apple!portal!cup.portal.com!Bob_BobR_Retelle@a rizona.edu Subject: beast To: Info-Atari16@naucse.cse.nau.edu Chuck Schul writes: .. >is it a game before shadow of the beast or a shadow of the beast 2?we >don't know but since we don't read german we are lost. Welcome to the "new world of Atari"... better get used to it... BobR ------------------------------ Date: 9 Aug 91 09:34:00 GMT From: noao!asuvax!ncar!elroy.jpl.nasa.gov!usc!snorkelwacker.mit.edu!ira.uka.de!smurf. sub.org!artcom0!hb.maus.de!hh.maus.de!Thomas_Quester@arizona.edu (Thomas Quester) Subject: Compression (background) To: Info-Atari16@naucse.cse.nau.edu MF>files before executing them, and offers only light compression. PFX Pack MF>is a good program, but the compression is too good. Too good?!? Well, MF>the better the compression is, the slower it is to uncompress when you MF>run it. I only want light compression since I don't want to lose the MF>speed of my Hard Drive. You are not right at this point: PFXPAK only has a difficult compression-routine. The decompression is verry simple. It reaches a rate of 100KB per second on a normal machine (900 KB on a TT). ---------------------------------------------------- Thomas Quester * Lampenland 9 * 2050 Hamburg 80 MauTau V 2.2c - Namen sind Schall und Rauch, Vornamen auch. (Net) ------------------------------ Date: 9 Aug 91 11:01:39 GMT From: noao!ncar!elroy.jpl.nasa.gov!usc!samsung!umich!terminator!terminator.cc.umich.e du!weiner@arizona.edu (Jeff Weiner) Subject: Double Click Software To: Info-Atari16@naucse.cse.nau.edu In article <12365@sbsvax.cs.uni-sb.de> univwa@sbuvax.rz.uni-sb.de (Bernhard Stumpf) writes: > >I didn't find something new since several weeks, not on > > - atari.archive.umich.edu (dir utilities/doublick is even empty! 9.8.91) > Try looking in keep it in utilities. It definately warranted it's own directory. > >Bernhard weiner -- Jeff Weiner --- weiner@{ub.cc, um.cc, atari.archive}.umich.edu Corner of Packard and State, 2nd house from Blue Front on Arbor Couldn't think of a witty saying to go here - give me some time ------------------------------ Date: 11 Aug 91 22:48:08 GMT From: noao!ncar!elroy.jpl.nasa.gov!swrinde!zaphod.mps.ohio-state.edu!ub!galileo.cc.ro chester.edu!uhura.cc.rochester.edu!lchd_ltd@arizona.edu (----* Ho Ling Cherd *----) Subject: east coast bbs's and user groups To: Info-Atari16@naucse.cse.nau.edu In article <1991Aug11.031638.8340@crash.cts.com> chuckie@pro-odyssey.cts.com (Chuck Schul) writes: >can anyone tell me of addresses and numbers of atari bbs's and user groups >in the new york,new jersey and connt.areas? > >thankls >thanks >---- >ProLine: chuckie@pro-odyssey >Internet: chuckie@pro-odyssey.cts.com >UUCP: crash!pro-odyssey!chuckie >ARPA: crash!pro-odyssey!chuckie@nosc.mil I am interested to know about user groups in upstate New York also. Thanks .. Ling Cherd ------------------------------ Date: 10 Aug 91 18:44:06 GMT From: noao!ncar!elroy.jpl.nasa.gov!usc!samsung!umich!terminator!terminator.cc.umich.e du!weiner@arizona.edu (Jeff Weiner) Subject: Ftp beginner's guide To: Info-Atari16@naucse.cse.nau.edu This is a basic guide to ftp. It is intended only to get you on your way to ftp happiness. Please let me know if you have any comments, questions, or suggestions. weiner@atari.archive.umich.edu Jeff Weiner's FTP Basics Vol.1 #1 Part 1: Logging in To begin an ftp session, the first thing you need to do is log in to our machine. You can do this by issuing the 'ftp atari.archive.umich.edu' command. You should then see something like this: Connected to atari.archive.umich.edu. 220 atari.archive.umich.edu FTP server (Version 4.169 Wed Jan 2 17:03:56 EST 199 1) ready. Name (yourhost.domain.edu:yourusername): At this prompt you'll want to type 'anonymous'. On some hosts, the word 'guest' will work, but 'anonymous' is always a sure bet. If you don't see this login prompt, but instead get something like 'Our host was unable to trace a name back to (some internet address). We only accept ftp from properly registered hosts', then you'll have to ask your sys-admin to properly register your machine in its name servers. There's nothing we can do on this end, so please don't bother asking. Also, if your machine doesn't allow you to specify the atari.archive name, try using out internet address : 141.211.164.8 Then, march down to your sys-admins office and ask him to install name-service. Your life will become much easier. Assuming you recieved the above prompt, you'll then be asked for a password. Use your mail address. For example, I would use 'weiner@atari.archive.umich.edu' Part 2: Basic Commands Once you're logged on, there's a few basic commands you'll want to know about. ls : lists the names of files of sub-directories in a directory. ls -C : Lists the files horizontally, instead of vertically. ls -F : Lists filenames, but adds a / to the end of directory names. dir : does the same thing as ls, but is needed on some other machines ls -l : A verbose listing of files. Includes permissions, filesize, etc. cd : changes directories (i.e. 'cd atari' would put you in the atari area) cd .. : Goes 'back up' a directory, to the one you came from. This from redmond@IUS4.IUS.CS.CMU.EDU: For more than one argument to ls, use double quotes. Eg. ls "-FC *.lzh" These are about all you need to get moving around the archive. Part 3: Getting the Goddies The main reason you want to ftp in the first place is to quickly transfer files. More often than not, you'll want to transfer the files from the archive to your account. You can do this using the following commands: First, find the file you want to download. Second, issue the command 'type binary'. This tells our machine that you'll be transferring a binary file. This is really important. You'll waste a LOT of time if you download files that were not transferred in binary mode. Third, issue this command 'get '. This will instruct the archive host to send to your account. The last thing you'll want to do is use the 'quit' command. This tells our machine you're no longer interested in ftping files, and would like to go back to your command prompt. Now, you'll need to download your files from your mainframe(sparc, whatever) to your ST. Usually you'll want to use either kermit or x- or y- or z-modem protocals. They're very reliable. I'd be quite hesitant to try something else. Also, your machine and ST are usually unique to you. This means that I really can't help you with this part. You could try asking, but I'm going to promise anything. Part 4: A Few Words on Net Ettiquette Net Ettiquette is something that every net user should be aware of. Relating to ftp, and our archive, it is essentially this: 1) Try to keep ftp usage to an absolute minimum during business hours, in our time zone. That would be 9 am to 5 pm , EST. This roughly means upload or download one file or so and little else during these hours. After 5pm, have a blast. Go nuts. We probably won't mind nearly as much..... Otherwise, we will drive to your campus or place of work (even if you live in Europe) and we'll kick youe butt. Or, Jon will sing Prince songs to you. Whichever you'd like the least. 2) If you have a question about some aspect of ftp service or some other area of your computer, please ask around at your site first. Don't immediately fire off all of your questions to us. I don't mind answering questions about the archive, problems with logging in, or something similar. But I tend to get upset when people ask me questions like, "Jeff, how come I can't get the fgrep command to work properly on my sparc station...." 3) Please try to upload files that you know the archive doesn't have. I know it's not the greatest thing to do, but if you can find time to download stuff, I think you can find time to return the favor and upload things also. If you have any reasonable questions, any comments or concerns, etc. please mail them to me, weiner@atari.archive.umich.edu. Thanks, weiner -- Jeff Weiner --- weiner@{ub.cc, um.cc, atari.archive}.umich.edu Corner of Packard and State, 2nd house from Blue Front on Arbor Couldn't think of a witty saying to go here - give me some time ------------------------------ Date: 11 Aug 91 17:40:58 GMT From: noao!ncar!elroy.jpl.nasa.gov!sdd.hp.com!uakari.primate.wisc.edu!doug.cae.wisc.e du!carter@arizona.edu (Gregory Carter) Subject: Hardware goodies in US??? To: Info-Atari16@naucse.cse.nau.edu In article <162815@unix.cis.pitt.edu> rjast1@unix.cis.pitt.edu (Robert J Anisko) writes: >In article <1991Aug09.035522.8432@chinet.chi.il.us> saj@chinet.chi.il.us (Stephen Jacobs) writes: >>We've already established that there are some nice goodies being made for the >>ST. But does anyone sell these things in the US? In particular: memory >>expansion of the ST beyond 4 M, and network hardware that permits the ST to >>be on the same network with 'more popular machines'. >> Steve saj@chinet.chi.il.us > > > I believe the soon-to-be-released (Dave?) 68030 upgrade from Gadgets by >Small will let you crank it up to 12megs RAM, I believe. > > ... > > Robert Anisko > rjast1@unix.cis.pitt.edu > Speaking of Mr. Small, does anyone know when he is going release an upgrade for 3.0 that cures the numerous problems with the MEGA STE?? And of course, will his upgrade board be compatible with Atari's new MEGA STE? ????????? Abybody know what Mr. Small is doing about these things? I would like to know before the November show as to decide whether or not I want to attend (Chicago). --Greg ------------------------------ Date: 10 Aug 91 18:48:21 GMT From: noao!ncar!zaphod.mps.ohio-state.edu!samsung!umich!terminator!terminator.cc.umic h.edu!weiner@arizona.edu (Jeff Weiner) Subject: The University of Michigan Archives To: Info-Atari16@naucse.cse.nau.edu [Thought this might be of general interest to you folks that have more than one machine. Lemme know if you'd like more info...... -weiner ] Welcome to the University of Michigan Software Archives. We are at archive.umich.edu [141.211.164.153] (aliases mac.archive.umich.edu, msdos.archive.umich.edu, and apple2.archive.umich.edu) and atari.archive.umich.edu [141.211.164.8] Please use symbolic addresses if you can since the archives move occasionally. --- what's here --- There are a number of collections of public domain, freeware, and shareware. More are being planned. Here are the directories you will see. at archive.umich.edu mac Macintosh software msdos IBM PC and compatible software apple2 Apple 2 software next.ftp NeXT software linguistics linguistics software (just beginning) physics physics software (just beginning) mac.bin not for ftp access (local Appletalk service only) next not for ftp access (afs only) at atari.archive.umich.edu atari Atari software --- ftp access --- You can use ftp to get to these archives (anonymous login, any password). There are currently no restrictions, but for load management reasons limits may be imposed in the future. Please show consideration to the regular users of atari.archive.umich.edu and restrict anonymous ftp access to evening through early morning EDT (-4:00 GMT). Users of archive.umich.edu need not make such a restriction, but will get better response in the that time period. --- afs access --- If you are using AFS (Andrew File System) you can get to the archive directory (excluding the atari archive) with cd /afs/umich.edu/group/itd/archive --- email access --- You may request that files be mailed to you from the atari archives (see the Help file in those archives for details). This service will be expanded to include other archives in the future. --- work in progress --- We are planning additional archives, additional access methods, more documentation, mailing lists, and better indexing. Suggestions are welcome. --- contacting humans --- Most of the work on the archives is being done by volunteers. And while their time is necessarily limited so a response may be delayed, please contact them with questions, suggestions, submissions, or praise. They can be reached at apple2-archivists@archive.umich.edu atari-archivists@archive.umich.edu linguistics-archivists@archive.umich.edu mac-archivists@archive.umich.edu msdos-archivists@archive.umich.edu next-archivists@archive.umich.edu physics-archivists@archive.umich.edu Your archive administrator, Fred Swartz, archive-admin@archive.umich.edu 1991.8.9 -- Jeff Weiner --- weiner@{ub.cc, um.cc, atari.archive}.umich.edu Corner of Packard and State, 2nd house from Blue Front on Arbor Couldn't think of a witty saying to go here - give me some time ------------------------------ Date: 10 Aug 91 18:42:10 GMT From: noao!ncar!zaphod.mps.ohio-state.edu!samsung!umich!terminator!terminator.cc.umic h.edu!weiner@arizona.edu (Jeff Weiner) Subject: Uploading to atari.archive and comp.{b,s}.atari.st To: Info-Atari16@naucse.cse.nau.edu Uploading to Atari.archive.umich.edu and Posting to comp.{binaries,sources}.atari.st By Jeff Weiner, Atari.archive Guardian How to upload to atari.archive.umich.edu: There are two main ways to upload to the archive: FTP or mail 1: FTP - This is the preferred method, as it doesn't clog my mailbox with megs and megs of stuff, not to mention it's a bit easier for you too. Logon to the archive as usual, then issue the following commands cd type binary put filename.ext mail weiner@atari.archive.umich.edu .... "Hey Jeff, I just uploaded this..." This last step is very important. As we're now integrating the index with text and the ls -lR listing, descriptions and an address to send questions to are key. Ed Krimen, ekrimen@ecst.csuchico.edu, adds this: For those that may not know, may I add that, for aesthetic effects, if you enter "hash," before you "put filename.ext" or "get filename.ext," the ftp program will display a # for every 1024 bytes sent or received. Actually, when you 'put' a file, it will display bunch of # at once. Moreover, if you enter "bell," it will sound your system bell when a function has completed. Finally, you can send and receive a list of files using the "mput" and "mget" commands, respectively, with a list of the files after the command. 2: MAIL - This is a bit slower for you and for me, but is still very effective. Simply uuencode the file, (please split it into parts and mail the result to weiner@atari.archive.umich.edu. Please name the parts in the subject line. This is really helpfull as the parts usually don't arrive in the proper sequence. Also, please include a message labeled file transmission, containing a short description of the file, etc. Shar files are also acceptable, but I prefer the uuencoded. And for those of you who would like to see your binaries and sources appear in comp.{binaries,sources}.atari.st, the following is taken from Steve Grimm's Introduction to Binaries and Sources: Subject: Submitting binaries for publication Items intended for posting or queries and problem notes should be sent to atari-binaries@twitterpatter.eng.sun.com. If you are on a UUCP-only site, you can send them to {backbone}!sun!twitterpatter.eng!atari-binaries. If you want verification of arrival, so say in a cover note, or at the beginning of your submission, if it is small. I try to verify that a program works, and if I can't get it to work, I may hold up posting it for a couple of days. Please note that, except in rare cases, software without documentation will not be published. The backlog from receipt to posting varies from one to four weeks depending mostly on the set of submissions currently in my queue. If you are submitting both sources and binaries, PLEASE send the two separately. If I have to separate your sources from your binaries by hand, your submission will most likely sit on the back burner for a while. Also, as of volume 8, I will only accept binaries packed with an archiver for which source code is widely available. For the time being, this pretty much means arc, zoo, and lharc. If you want to use a nifty new archiver, make the source code available to the public (posting to comp.sources.atari.st is fine.) I reserve the right to repack binaries with another archiver if the other archiver saves a significant amount of space, or has other advantages. If you're submitting a demo of a commercial program, or a shareware program, please keep the amount of advertising to an absolute minimum. The net gods become angry when people try to use the net as a free advertising medium, and I'd like to keep comp.binaries.atari.st out of trouble. If you want to solicit orders, do it in a README file or an About... dialog box, not in a message that comes up every time the user does something. In other words, treat the net like a PBS station (apologies to those outside the US.) I will not accept programs which I feel are excessively commercial. I'm aware that commercial demos and shareware are often very useful (to the users on the net,) which is why I allow them at all. Subject: Submitting source for publication Items intended for posting or queries and problem notes should be sent to atari-sources@twitterpatter.eng.sun.com. If you are on a UUCP-only site, you can send them to sun!twitterpatter.eng!atari-sources. If you want verification of arrival, so say in a cover note, or at the beginning of your submission, if it is small. I try to verify that a program works, and if I can't get it to work, I may hold up posting it for a couple of days. Please note that, except in rare cases, source without documentation will not be published. The backlog from receipt to posting varies from one to four weeks depending mostly on the set of submissions currently in my queue. I prefer that you submit sources and binaries separately, as it's a pain to separate them, and such submissions are invariably placed on the back burner. Sources should be submitted in the same format as binaries -- uuencoded arc, zoo, or lzh files. Please use Pierre Dumas' "uue" program if possible, as it can correct some common transmission errors. Split long submissions up into reasonable (less than 50K) chunks. "uue" will do this for you, if you use "uue -700 file" to encode. Please inform me of any special system requirements, and what development environment was used, so that I can properly test your submission and label it when I post it. ------------------- weiner -- Jeff Weiner --- weiner@{ub.cc, um.cc, atari.archive}.umich.edu Corner of Packard and State, 2nd house from Blue Front on Arbor Couldn't think of a witty saying to go here - give me some time ------------------------------ Date: 11 Aug 91 17:55:07 GMT From: noao!ncar!elroy.jpl.nasa.gov!sdd.hp.com!uakari.primate.wisc.edu!doug.cae.wisc.e du!carter@arizona.edu (Gregory Carter) Subject: Using a big hard disk To: Info-Atari16@naucse.cse.nau.edu In article <1991Aug11.070159.11845@chinet.chi.il.us> saj@chinet.chi.il.us (Stephen Jacobs) writes: >I got an impossibly great deal on a ST-4702N (600 MB Wren-V). I have it Awesome. >hooked up to my BMS-200, and it responds to commands alright. I can >even get the BMS disk initializer to prepare 60 MB of useful file space on >it. But I want to set this thing up as a large number of large partitions, >and to do that I need HDX. So far, with a few reasonable tries, HDX refuses >to do ANYTHING with this disk. Any suggestions? > Steve saj@chinet.chi.il.us HDX? You MUST be joking. I ASSUME you modified the HDX settings file, that lists all the characteristics of the HD. You must use that option because the standard GEM program doesn't list that kind of drive available for formatting. Gosh, you didn't say exactly what controller or host adapter your using. For a drive like that, I would consider ICD's utilities, and hardware to make it scream. Could you be more specific? Maybe repost? --Greg ------------------------------ Date: 11 Aug 91 21:25:23 GMT From: noao!ncar!elroy.jpl.nasa.gov!usc!apple!netcomsv!rcb@arizona.edu (Roy Bixler) Subject: Using a big hard disk To: Info-Atari16@naucse.cse.nau.edu In article <1991Aug11.125507.21713@doug.cae.wisc.edu> carter@cae.wisc.edu (Gregory Carter) writes: >In article <1991Aug11.070159.11845@chinet.chi.il.us> saj@chinet.chi.il.us (Stephen Jacobs) writes: >>I got an impossibly great deal on a ST-4702N (600 MB Wren-V). I have it >>hooked up to my BMS-200, and it responds to commands alright. I can >>even get the BMS disk initializer to prepare 60 MB of useful file space on >>it. But I want to set this thing up as a large number of large partitions, >>and to do that I need HDX. So far, with a few reasonable tries, HDX refuses >>to do ANYTHING with this disk. Any suggestions? >> Steve saj@chinet.chi.il.us > > (stuff deleted) > >Gosh, you didn't say exactly what controller or host adapter your using. Yes, he did mention the host adapter - a Berkeley Microsystems BMS-200. I would recommend calling Berkeley Microsystems. I had a similar problem when I first got my HD/BMS-200 combination and they were very helpful. Unfortunately, I don't have the number. You should be able to get it by calling directory assistance and asking for Berkeley Microsystems of Oakland (California). Roy Bixler rcb@netcom.com -or- (UUCP) uunet!apple!netcom!rcb "Just when you think you know it all, it changes!" -- Roy Bixler rcb@netcom.com -or- (UUCP) uunet!apple!netcom!rcb "Just when you think you know it all, it changes!" ------------------------------ Date: 12 Aug 91 00:14:09 GMT From: vuse.vanderbilt.edu!feather@uunet.uu.net (David V. Feather) Subject: UW "The Server Side" To: Info-Atari16@naucse.cse.nau.edu Where can I find the server side of UW. I have the ST programs. Thanks, Dave -- David V. Feather Email: feather@vuse.vanderbilt.edu ------------------------------ Date: 10 Aug 91 08:28:28 GMT From: noao!ncar!elroy.jpl.nasa.gov!usc!samsung!umich!terminator!usenet@arizona.edu (Atari Archive Robot) Subject: Weekly Posting of New Stuff To: Info-Atari16@naucse.cse.nau.edu drwxrwxr-x daemon 1024 Aug 5 15:26 . -rw-rw-r-- weiner 84754 Aug 5 15:25 ./Index -rw-rw-r-- weiner 42690 Aug 5 15:25 ./CompInd.Z drwxrwxr-x daemon 1024 Aug 7 21:57 . drwxrwxr-x jon 4096 Aug 7 21:42 ./games -rw-r--r-- weiner 54483 Aug 7 21:42 ./games/take2_bw.lzh -rw-r--r-- weiner 65166 Aug 7 21:42 ./games/take2_col.lzh -rw-rw-r-- weiner 8692 Aug 7 21:43 ./games/Index drwxrwxr-x jon 2048 Aug 7 21:31 ./archivers -rw-r--r-- weiner 38087 Aug 7 21:31 ./archivers/lzh200a.lzh -rw-r--r-- weiner 3193 Aug 7 21:32 ./archivers/Index drwxrwxr-x jon 6144 Aug 7 21:39 ./utilities -rw-r--r-- weiner 4497 Aug 7 21:20 ./utilities/boot_cpx.lzh -rw-r--r-- weiner 30396 Aug 7 21:23 ./utilities/clock17e.lzh -rw-r--r-- weiner 23285 Aug 7 21:39 ./utilities/edi_uti1.lzh -rw-r--r-- weiner 12998 Aug 7 21:23 ./utilities/speedmet.lzh -rw-r--r-- weiner 10724 Aug 7 21:40 ./utilities/Index drwxrwxr-x jon 1536 Aug 7 21:46 ./tex -rw-r--r-- weiner 49269 Aug 7 21:46 ./tex/c++2l.zoo -rw-r--r-- weiner 3193 Aug 7 21:47 ./tex/Index drwxrwxr-x jon 3072 Aug 7 21:30 ./diskutils -rw-r--r-- weiner 32458 Aug 7 21:30 ./diskutils/fsearch5.lzh -rw-rw-r-- weiner 5658 Aug 7 21:31 ./diskutils/Index -rw-rw-r-- weiner 3811 Aug 7 21:29 ./applications/Index drwxrwxr-x weiner 512 Aug 7 21:25 ./applications/dtp/fonts/pagestream -rw-rw-r-- weiner 109277 Aug 7 21:25 ./applications/dtp/fonts/pagestream/pgsfe.arc -rw-rw-r-- weiner 22937 Aug 7 21:25 ./applications/dtp/fonts/pagestream/chancery.arc drwxrwxr-x gray 512 Aug 7 07:54 ./gnustuff/tos/ghstscrpt -rw-rw-r-- weiner 85276 Aug 7 21:49 ./Index -rw-r--r-- weiner 77111 Aug 7 21:50 ./ls-lR.Z -rw-rw-r-- weiner 42973 Aug 7 21:49 ./CompInd.Z drwxrwxr-x jon 2048 Aug 9 20:19 ./archivers -rw-r--r-- weiner 112110 Aug 9 20:19 ./archivers/zoo21bin.zoo -rw-r--r-- weiner 306834 Aug 9 20:19 ./archivers/zoo21src.zoo -rw-r--r-- weiner 3099 Aug 9 20:22 ./archivers/Index drwxrwxr-x jon 6144 Aug 9 14:26 ./utilities drwxrwxr-x jon 1024 Aug 9 08:03 ./gnustuff -rw-r--r-- gray 40151 Aug 9 08:04 ./gnustuff/Index.gjh drwxr-xr-x weiner 1536 Aug 9 20:22 ./dc -rw-r--r-- weiner 4640 Aug 9 20:22 ./dc/dcmsaver.arc ------------------------------ End of Info-Atari16 Digest ******************************