Info-Atari16 Digest Sat, 10 Aug 91 Volume 91 : Issue 429 Today's Topics: Allan Pratt & colleagues (was Re: PC-Ditto I -vs- SoftPC) Atari CD-ROM? Double Click Software Ethernet box/cartridge and software for 1040ST? HELP, FRENCH ROM 1.4 !! (3 msgs) HELP, FRENCH ROM 1.4 No. 2 Is XCONTROL on atari.archive bad? PI3 --> .MAC Used Mega ST2 Value VIDEO GAME RATINGS BALLOT [ATARI] VIDEO GAME RATINGS REPORT [ATARI] Welcome to the Info-Atari16 Digest. The configuration for the automatic cross-posting to/from Usenet is getting closer, but still getting thrashed out. Please send notifications about broken digests or bogus messages to Info-Atari16-Request@NAUCSE.CSE.NAU.EDU. Please send requests for un/subscription and other administrivia to Info-Atari16-Request, *NOT* Info-Atari16. Requests that go to the list instead of the moderators are likely to be lost or ignored. If you want to unsubscribe, and you're receiving the digest indirectly from someplace (usually a BITNET host) that redistributes it, please contact the redistributor, not us. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: 8 Aug 91 16:06:58 GMT From: mcsun!ukc!icdoc!syma!grahamt@uunet.uu.net (Graham Thomas) Subject: Allan Pratt & colleagues (was Re: PC-Ditto I -vs- SoftPC) To: Info-Atari16@naucse.cse.nau.edu From article <1991Aug6.185425.6719@ms.uky.edu>, by parsons@b.ee.engr.uky.edu (Greg Parsons): > In article <1991Aug6.111624.769@crash.cts.com> chuckie@pro-odyssey.cts.com (Chuck Schul) writes: >>In-Reply-To: message from grahamt@syma.sussex.ac.uk >> >>has anyone else noticed that on the net the atari fellows like mr.Prat and > > Considering that they give a hell of a lot better input to > this newsgroup than you have, you shouldn't criticize. However, Our newsfeed's been interrupted recently, so I've only just seen the replies to Chuck Schul's posting. I didn't see Chuck's original posting (things sometimes get lost here when we run out of inodes), and I've forgotten which contribution of mine he was responding to. But just in case any false associations are being made, let me state: - I very much appreciate the contributions Allan Pratt (and Ken B. and occasional others) makes to the Atari newsgroups. - I understand why he doesn't comment on product release policy and lots of other things which are outside his responsibility. We all know that some of Atari's policies are, well, less than wonderful. But the vast majority of us know that this is not the fault of the Atari folk who interact with us on the net. I hope Chuck Schul now knows that too. Graham -- Graham Thomas, SPRU, Mantell Building, Univ. of Sussex, Brighton, BN1 9RF, UK Email: grahamt@syma.sussex.ac.uk Phone: +44 273 678165 Fax: +44 273 685865 ------------------------------ Date: 9 Aug 91 00:41:21 GMT From: mcrware!mwca!bill@uunet.uu.net (Bill Sheppard) Subject: Atari CD-ROM? To: Info-Atari16@naucse.cse.nau.edu In article <1991Aug8.012455.2607@lsuc.on.ca> jimomura@lsuc.on.ca (Jim Omura) writes: >In article <8159@tekgen.BV.TEK.COM> boblu@tekgen.BV.TEK.COM (Robert Luneski) writes: >>In article <1896@mwca.UUCP> bill@mwca.UUCP (Bill Sheppard) writes: >>>Before you run out and buy a CDTV please wait for CD-I (Compact Disc >>>Interactive)... >>Before you hold your breath for the introduction of CD-I, consider that >>Phillips has been promising it's imminent introduction for the last three >>years. Sound like any company we know? Nah.... :-) > Actually, you're somewhat wrong about that. Philips *didn't* >promise it's "imminent introduction for the last three years." Quite >to the contrary, in the early days they specifically said it was >going to take time and if you look back at the announcements and >discussions, CD-I is fairly well "on time." Furthermore, you can >as far as I know get actual CD-I development systems right now. Yes, you can do CD-I development from Suns, Macintoshs, CD-I players (early models have been available for several years now to developers), or any system running OS-9 (including your ST). My latest information is that CD-I will be introduced in selected US markets and retailers this October. > There are a lot of myths and misunderstandings about CD-I. >Maybe someday I'll say more, but right now I'm burned out. I did >read today that Nintendo is going to back CD-I. Strange world. Yes, Philips will be providing Super Famicom (16-bit Nintendo) games on CD-I disc for use with your CD-I player. I think, in time, that CD-I will be a smash. Keep in mind, both CD Audio and VCR's took three-or-so years to take off. Disclaimer: My company produces the operating system CD-I is based upon as well as CD-I titles and development tools. -- ############################################################################## # Bill Sheppard -- bills@microware.com -- {uunet,sun}!mcrware!mwca!bill # # Microware Systems Corporation -- OS-9 / OS-9000 / CD-RTOS -- (408)980-0201 # ############# Opinions expressed are my own and usually wrong ################ ------------------------------ Date: 9 Aug 91 06:46:36 GMT From: noao!asuvax!cs.utexas.edu!swrinde!zaphod.mps.ohio-state.edu!think.com!yale.edu! ox.com!math.fu-berlin.de!unido!sbsvax!sbuvax!univwa@arizona.edu (Bernhard Stumpf) Subject: Double Click Software To: Info-Atari16@naucse.cse.nau.edu Hi there, wat did happen to DC Software ??? I didn't find something new since several weeks, not on - atari.archive.umich.edu (dir utilities/doublick is even empty! 9.8.91) - comp.binaries.atari.st I really like these little tools, after all they run on a TT, and I miss the news each week. I hope I'll meet you guys from DC on Atari fair in Duesseldorf as announced. Bernhard ***************************************************************************** * * * Dipl.Ing. Bernhard Stumpf | | | * * / ___ / University of the Saarland | | | * * /----. /__. -/- D-6600 Saarbruecken | | | * * /____/ ___/ /_. / | \ * * phone : ++49-681-302-41.43 / | \ * * e-mail: bestu@sbuvax.rz.uni-sb.de / | \ * * * ***************************************************************************** ------------------------------ Date: 9 Aug 91 04:47:48 GMT From: news-server.csri.toronto.edu!utgpu!georgen@uunet.uu.net (G. Ng) Subject: Ethernet box/cartridge and software for 1040ST? To: Info-Atari16@naucse.cse.nau.edu Got an old 1040 lying around that I'd like to link up with my NeXT and PC. Are there any Ethernet hardware/software for the ST? Perhaps something like those Xircom thingies on the PC... Please email me since I don't read this newsgroup much...thanx -- george ng georgen@utcs.toronto.edu molecular genetics george@saga.uucp (NeXTMail) ------------------------------ Date: 31 Jul 91 12:15:41 GMT From: hpcc05!hpbbn!hpgnd!laurent@hplabs.hp.com (Laurent JULLIARD) Subject: HELP, FRENCH ROM 1.4 !! To: Info-Atari16@naucse.cse.nau.edu Hello ATARI community ! I'm looking for somebody who have a ATARI ST, Mega ST or whatever with TOS 1.4 in ROM. If you have this version of ROM, please tell me ! I have written a very simple program to dump the content of the ROM onto a floppy disk. If you agree to help me I will send you a floppy containing this small program, you will just have to run it (it takes 30 senconds to complete) and send the floppy back to me (or may be transfer it via network). My eternal thanks to anybody who could help me ! Laurent JULLIARD laurent@hpgnzeus.grenoble.hp.com ========================================================================= ========================================================================= The same in French, just in case.... Je recherche quelqu'un possedant un ATARI ST, Mega ST ou autre avec un TOS 1.4 en ROM. Si vous avez cette version de ROM, dites le moi ! J'ai ecris un programme tres simple qui fait un DUMP du contenu des ROM sur un floppy. Si vous etes d'accord pour m'aider, je vous enverrai un floppy conte- nant ce petit programme, vous aureez juste a le lancer (duree 30 secondes a peu pres) et a me renvoyer le floppy. (ou peut etre me le transferer par reseau si cela vous est possible). Infinis remerciements a quiconque pourrait m'aider ! Laurent JULLIARD laurent@hpgnzeus.grenoble.hp.com ------------------------------ Date: 9 Aug 91 05:05:29 GMT From: noao!asuvax!ukma!wupost!zaphod.mps.ohio-state.edu!pacific.mps.ohio-state.edu!li nac!unixhub!slacvm!reeves@arizona.edu (Terry Reeves) Subject: HELP, FRENCH ROM 1.4 !! To: Info-Atari16@naucse.cse.nau.edu In article <1400002@hpgnd.grenoble.hp.com>, laurent@hpgnd.grenoble.hp.com (Laurent JULLIARD) says: > >Hello ATARI community ! > > > I'm looking for somebody who have a ATARI ST, Mega ST or whatever > with TOS 1.4 in ROM. If you have this version of ROM, please tell me ! > I have written a very simple program to dump the content of the ROM > onto a floppy disk. > > If you agree to help me I will send you a floppy containing this small > program, you will just have to run it (it takes 30 senconds to complete) > and send the floppy back to me (or may be transfer it via network). > > My eternal thanks to anybody who could help me ! > >Laurent JULLIARD >laurent@hpgnzeus.grenoble.hp.com > I would think twice before doing this. Unless French law is drastically different from American law, the code in the ROM chips is protected by copyright law. Terry W. Reeves Disclaimer: The above statements are my opinions. They do not necessarily reflect those of SLAC, Stanford University, the DOE, or the U.S. government. ------------------------------ Date: 9 Aug 91 09:09:57 GMT From: noao!asuvax!cs.utexas.edu!qt.cs.utexas.edu!zaphod.mps.ohio-state.edu!unix.cis.p itt.edu!rjast1@arizona.edu (Robert J Anisko) Subject: HELP, FRENCH ROM 1.4 !! To: Info-Atari16@naucse.cse.nau.edu In article <1400002@hpgnd.grenoble.hp.com> laurent@hpgnd.grenoble.hp.com (Laurent JULLIARD) writes: >Hello ATARI community ! > > > I'm looking for somebody who have a ATARI ST, Mega ST or whatever > with TOS 1.4 in ROM. If you have this version of ROM, please tell me ! > I have written a very simple program to dump the content of the ROM > onto a floppy disk. > > If you agree to help me I will send you a floppy containing this small > program, you will just have to run it (it takes 30 senconds to complete) > and send the floppy back to me (or may be transfer it via network). Nothing personal, dude, but what you are doing is advocating piracy in the most blunt terms. If you want TOS 1.4, BUY IT - if you could afford a computer, surely you can afford this moderate upgrade. Copying TOS (and possibly dumping TOS for that matter) is kinda ILLEGAL, ya know? I'm sure Atari, who OWNS TOS would not be too thrilled with this suggestion of yours, and since you posted your name/address in that message, they know right where to send a very FRIENDLY warning. So have some class and make it simple - shell out the $89 or so (whatever it is in francs) and BUY IT. It's relatively painless, and doesn't screw over Atari and the limited following it has, ok? Robert Anisko rjast1@unix.cis.pitt.edu ------------------------------ Date: 31 Jul 91 12:18:53 GMT From: hpcc05!hpbbn!hpgnd!laurent@hplabs.hp.com (Laurent JULLIARD) Subject: HELP, FRENCH ROM 1.4 No. 2 To: Info-Atari16@naucse.cse.nau.edu Hello again ! I didn't mention it but I'm looking for FRENCH ROM 1.4. Thanks again. ------------------------------ Date: 8 Aug 91 15:06:03 GMT From: noao!asuvax!ukma!rex!wupost!m.cs.uiuc.edu!vela!wsu-cs!jake!pbh@arizona.edu (Patrick Haggood) Subject: Is XCONTROL on atari.archive bad? To: Info-Atari16@naucse.cse.nau.edu I just FTP'd XCONTROL from atari.archive as binary. I tried un-arcing it on my unix box and my dos box, both of them said they couldn't handle the archive. Anyone had any success with un-arcing these files from atari.archive? -- Genie - P.HAGGOOD2 Internet -pbh@jake.cc.wayne.edu PRODIGY - Not anymore, Jackson. Bitnet - phaggoo@waynest1 Phone - (313) 577-0669 Voice - "HEY, YOU WITH THE BAGGY PANTS!" ------------------------------ Date: 9 Aug 91 08:53:14 GMT From: noao!asuvax!ukma!wupost!zaphod.mps.ohio-state.edu!unix.cis.pitt.edu!rjast1@ariz ona.edu (Robert J Anisko) Subject: PI3 --> .MAC To: Info-Atari16@naucse.cse.nau.edu In article <1991Aug7.150000.2584@oz.plymouth.edu> pyr579@oz.plymouth.edu (Technoid) writes: >Hey folks, > > I'm looking for a way to convert High Res Degas pictures to >Mac Paint format. I know that pic switch 6 will go from Mac Paint to >Degas so I assume the reverse is possible. Anyone have the program to do >it? Either an FTP site or a .UUE file sent through E-mail would be great. > I believe you can do that via ViewGIF 1.2, which should be available at atari.archive.umich.edu (VIEWGIF12.ARC or something similar)... Hope this helps... Robert Anisko rjast1@unix.cis.pitt.edu it also converts to/from some other formats (can't tell ya at the moment as my ST is on temporary hiatus)... ------------------------------ Date: 9 Aug 91 02:06:02 GMT From: haven.umd.edu!wam.umd.edu!hgobioff@purdue.edu (Howard B. Gobioff) Subject: Used Mega ST2 Value To: Info-Atari16@naucse.cse.nau.edu What is the approximate value of a used Mega ST2? I have an entire Mega ST2 system that I wish to sell but I haven't used it for over a year so I want a rough idea of what a used one is worth before I post advertisements for it.... please email your reply..thanks... hgobioff@wam.umd.edu Howard Gobioff ------------------------------ Date: 9 Aug 91 10:05:22 GMT From: radon.berkeley.edu!erc@ucbvax.berkeley.edu (Eric Ng) Subject: VIDEO GAME RATINGS BALLOT [ATARI] To: Info-Atari16@naucse.cse.nau.edu To use this ballot, just hit "R". Once in your editor, insert your game rating between the word "vote" and the system code and game title. Your rating must be an integer between 1 and 10. There must be at least one blank on either side of your rating. Make sure the word vote appears at the start of each rating. If you do not want to rate a particular game, just DELETE THAT LINE FROM THE BALLOT. When you are finished, SAVE THE FILE, and exit the editor. The votes will be sent to the game rating tabulator. The general guideline for ratings is: 8-10 worth buying at full price 6-7 worth buying at a discount, or if you're particularly interested in this kind of game 3-5 only worth renting 2 only worth playing for free, and only for a few minutes 1 worthless If you want to vote for additional games, just add them at the end, in a format similar to the existing entries. Be sure to include the system code right before the title. This code is one of the below: AL = Atari Lynx AM = Commodore Amiga GB = Nintendo Game Boy GG = Sega Game Gear GS = Apple II GS MA = Apple Macintosh NE = Nintendo NES and Famicom NG = SNK NeoGeo PC = IBM PC, PS/2, and compatibles SG = Sega Genesis and MegaDrive SF = Nintendo Super Famicom ST = Atari ST TG = NEC TurboGrafx-16, TurboExpress, and PC Engine Thanks for participating in the rec.games.video ratings poll. (This text was adapted from Chuck Musciano's rec.arts.movies ballots and John Leo's rec.games.video ballots.) PLEASE DELETE TITLES WHICH YOU WILL NOT BE VOTING FOR. PLEASE DELETE TITLES WHICH YOU WILL NOT BE VOTING FOR. PLEASE DELETE TITLES WHICH YOU WILL NOT BE VOTING FOR. PLEASE DELETE TITLES WHICH YOU WILL NOT BE VOTING FOR. PLEASE DELETE TITLES WHICH YOU WILL NOT BE VOTING FOR. v--- place your rating right here! vote Al Blood Money vote Al Blue Lightning vote Al California Games vote Al Chip's Challenge vote Al Electrocop vote Al Fidelity Ultimate Chess Challenge vote Al Gates Of Zendocon vote Al Gauntlet III vote Al Klax vote Al Ms. Pac-Man vote Al Paperboy vote Al Rampage vote Al Roadblasters vote Al Robosquash vote Al Rygar vote Al Shanghai vote Al Slime World vote Al Warbirds vote Al Xenophobe vote Al Zarlor Mercenary vote St A Day At The Races vote St A Mind Forever Voyaging vote St Airball vote St Arctic Fox vote St Arkanoid vote St Artura vote St Atomix vote St Autoduel vote St Baal vote St Barbarian vote St Bard's Tale I vote St Batman vote St Battlehawks 1942 vote St Battlemaster vote St Battletech vote St Blasteroids vote St Block-Out vote St Blockbuster vote St Blood Money vote St Bloodwych vote St Blue Angels vote St Breakers vote St Bubble Bobble vote St Cadaver vote St Captain Blood vote St Captive vote St Chambers Of Shaolin vote St Chaos Strikes Back vote St Chrono Quest 2 vote St Curse Of The Azure Bonds vote St Cyberball vote St Demon's Winter vote St Dogs Of War vote St Dungeon Master vote St E-Swat vote St Empire Strikes Back, The vote St F-15 Strike Eagle vote St F-19 Stealth Fighter vote St Falcon vote St Falcon Mission Disk 1 vote St Fiendish Freddy's Big Top O' Fun vote St Fighter Bomber vote St Fire Brigade vote St Flight Simulator vote St Full Metal Planet vote St Future Wars vote St Gauntlet vote St Geisha vote St Go Player vote St Gods vote St Gold Of The Aztecs vote St Golden Axe vote St Goldrunner vote St Gunship vote St Heroes Of The Lance vote St Hex vote St Hippo Backgammon vote St Hitchiker's Guide To The Galaxy, The vote St Hoyle's Book Of Games II vote St Jet vote St Jinxter vote St Joust vote St Jungle Book, The vote St Klax vote St Knight Orc vote St Leisure Suit Larry I vote St Leisure Suit Larry II vote St Leisure Suit Larry III vote St Lemmings vote St Lombard Rally vote St Lotus Esprit Challenge vote St Major Motion vote St Mean 18 vote St Mean Streets vote St Megatraveller 1: The Zhodani Conspiracy vote St Metal Masters vote St Microleague Baseball vote St Midimaze vote St Missile Command vote St Mission Impossible II vote St Moebius vote St Nine Princes In Amber vote St Obliterator vote St Oids vote St Oil Imperium vote St Oliver And Compagnie vote St Pawn, The vote St Phantasie I vote St Phantasie II vote St Phantasie III vote St Pipemania vote St Populous vote St Powermonger vote St Prince Of Persia vote St Pro Tennis Tour vote St Questron II vote St R-Type vote St Return Of The Jedi, The vote St Rick Dangerous 2 vote St Rings Of Zilfin vote St Roadwar 2000 vote St Rocket Ranger vote St Rockford vote St Rogue vote St Rolling Thunder vote St Sentry vote St Shadow Of The Beast vote St Shanghai vote St Silent Service vote St Simcity vote St Sorcerer Lord vote St Space Harrier II vote St Space Quest II vote St Space Quest III vote St Speedball II vote St Star Trek: The Rebel Universe vote St Star Wars vote St Starglider vote St Starglider II vote St Strider II vote St Stunt Car Racer vote St Sundog vote St Super Cars, The vote St Supremacy vote St T.V. Sports Football vote St Team Yankee vote St Teller, The vote St Tennis Cup vote St Terrorpods vote St Tetris vote St Their Finest Hour: Battle Of Britain vote St Third Courier, The vote St Time Bandit vote St Tower Toppler vote St Toyota Celica G.T. vote St Ultima III vote St Ultima IV vote St Ultima V vote St Ultimate Ride, The vote St Universe II vote St Wargame Construction Set vote St Wayne Gretzky Hockey vote St Wrath Of The Daemon vote St Xenon vote St Xenon 2 vote St Xevious -- eric ng erc@zabriskie.berkeley.edu .!ucbvax!zabriskie!erc ------------------------------ Date: 9 Aug 91 09:50:09 GMT From: radon.berkeley.edu!erc@ucbvax.berkeley.edu (Eric Ng) Subject: VIDEO GAME RATINGS REPORT [ATARI] To: Info-Atari16@naucse.cse.nau.edu For information on the list format and on submitting your ratings, see the end of this posting and the article entitled "ABOUT THE VIDEO GAMES RATINGS REPORT" in the newsgroup rec.games.video. 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ATARI GAME RATINGS REPORT ATARI LYNX New Distribution Votes Rank Title * .....*.... 1 6.0 Blood Money ..00111220 60 7.2 Blue Lightning 0001113100 75 6.4 California Games 0.00000321 62 8.0 Chip's Challenge .00111120. 54 6.0 Electrocop * ......5..5 2 8.5 Fidelity Ultimate Chess Challenge 0.0003121. 52 6.5 Gates Of Zendocon 0.0123200. 50 5.7 Gauntlet III ......0133 44 9.0 Klax ..0003.4.. 14 6.4 Ms. Pac-Man ..023.22.. 15 5.7 Paperboy ...1..2300 11 7.3 Rampage ....001511 27 8.0 Roadblasters ..1.122100 15 6.5 Robosquash .1...143.. 9 6.7 Rygar .1......62 8 8.4 Shanghai ...0013210 44 7.5 Slime World * .......225 4 9.2 Warbirds ....003131 29 8.0 Xenophobe ......1251 18 8.7 Zarlor Mercenary ATARI ST New Distribution Votes Rank Title .........* 1 10.0 A Day At The Races ....3.3.3. 3 7.0 A Mind Forever Voyaging .111.2.1.1 7 5.6 Airball 1.12.5.... 9 4.7 Arctic Fox ...113110. 13 6.2 Arkanoid ....*..... 1 5.0 Artura * ......*... 1 7.0 Atomix ....2222.. 4 6.5 Autoduel ..22..2.2. 4 5.8 Baal .1..21221. 9 6.3 Barbarian ..1....511 7 7.7 Bard's Tale I .2...7.... 4 5.0 Batman ....333... 3 6.0 Battlehawks 1942 ......*... 1 7.0 Battlemaster .....52.2. 4 7.0 Battletech .....55... 2 6.5 Blasteroids ......36.. 3 7.7 Block-Out ........*. 1 9.0 Blockbuster ..11.1.3.1 6 6.5 Blood Money .1.13..3.. 6 5.3 Bloodwych .....*.... 1 6.0 Blue Angels *......... 1 1.0 Breakers 3.3...3... 3 3.7 Bubble Bobble ........*. 1 9.0 Cadaver .2..2.22.2 5 6.4 Captain Blood .........* 4 10.0 Captive .......*.. 1 8.0 Chambers Of Shaolin .......234 15 9.3 Chaos Strikes Back .....55... 2 6.5 Chrono Quest 2 ........*. 2 9.0 Curse Of The Azure Bonds 2.22.2.... 4 3.5 Cyberball ..2..224.. 5 6.4 Demon's Winter ....5.5... 2 6.0 Dogs Of War ......0035 32 9.4 Dungeon Master .*........ 1 2.0 E-Swat ....252... 8 6.0 Empire Strikes Back, The ....3..6.. 3 7.0 F-15 Strike Eagle .....1.412 7 8.4 F-19 Stealth Fighter ..0..01230 13 7.8 Falcon ...3...3.3 3 7.3 Falcon Mission Disk 1 .....*.... 1 6.0 Fiendish Freddy's Big Top O' Fun 3.....6... 3 5.0 Fighter Bomber .....5.5.. 2 7.0 Fire Brigade ..0..2302. 13 7.0 Flight Simulator ......36.. 3 7.7 Full Metal Planet ....5..5.. 2 6.5 Future Wars .1.122.1.. 7 5.1 Gauntlet ..5.5..... 2 4.0 Geisha ......*... 1 7.0 Go Player * ........*. 1 9.0 Gods .........* 1 10.0 Gold Of The Aztecs .2...2.22. 4 6.2 Golden Axe .100.410.. 12 5.2 Goldrunner ....1.1141 7 8.1 Gunship ....311.3. 6 6.8 Heroes Of The Lance ......5.5. 2 8.0 Hex ..5.5..... 2 4.0 Hippo Backgammon .....2242. 5 7.6 Hitchiker's Guide To The Galaxy, The .......*.. 1 8.0 Hoyle's Book Of Games II 3....6.... 3 4.3 Jet .....52.2. 4 7.0 Jinxter ...0102120 14 7.4 Joust ...*...... 1 4.0 Jungle Book, The ....5..5.. 2 6.5 Klax .5...5.... 2 4.0 Knight Orc ....1111.3 6 7.7 Leisure Suit Larry I .....5.5.. 4 7.0 Leisure Suit Larry II * .....*.... 1 6.0 Leisure Suit Larry III .......3.6 3 9.3 Lemmings .....3.6.. 3 7.3 Lombard Rally .2......25 4 7.8 Lotus Esprit Challenge ...422..2. 5 5.6 Major Motion .....424.. 5 7.0 Mean 18 ......*... 2 7.0 Mean Streets * .........* 1 10.0 Megatraveller 1: The Zhodani Conspiracy * .......*.. 1 8.0 Metal Masters ........*. 1 9.0 Microleague Baseball ..1...1.24 7 8.3 Midimaze ........*. 1 9.0 Missile Command .....63... 3 6.3 Mission Impossible II ..*....... 1 3.0 Moebius .*........ 1 2.0 Nine Princes In Amber .......*.. 1 8.0 Obliterator .....1.421 7 8.3 Oids 5......5.. 2 4.5 Oil Imperium ...*...... 1 4.0 Oliver And Compagnie .111.3121. 10 5.9 Pawn, The ......6..3 3 8.0 Phantasie I ....22.2.2 4 7.2 Phantasie II .....4..42 5 8.0 Phantasie III ....2224.. 5 6.8 Pipemania .......333 16 9.1 Populous .....2.321 8 8.0 Powermonger ......1313 6 8.7 Prince Of Persia ........*. 1 9.0 Pro Tennis Tour ........*. 1 9.0 Questron II .2..1223.. 10 5.9 R-Type ...1232... 8 5.8 Return Of The Jedi, The .......55. 2 8.5 Rick Dangerous 2 .....*.... 1 6.0 Rings Of Zilfin .111.1212. 9 6.1 Roadwar 2000 ......*... 1 7.0 Rocket Ranger .....5.5.. 2 7.0 Rockford ...0023100 13 6.9 Rogue ...5..5... 2 5.5 Rolling Thunder ....*..... 1 5.0 Sentry .22.22.... 4 4.0 Shadow Of The Beast ...1.1122. 7 7.3 Shanghai .....1223. 8 7.9 Silent Service .....02023 13 8.6 Simcity ..*....... 1 3.0 Sorcerer Lord .....72... 4 6.2 Space Harrier II ......333. 3 8.0 Space Quest II ......27.. 7 7.7 Space Quest III .......422 7 8.9 Speedball II 2....2..5. 4 6.2 Star Trek: The Rebel Universe ....13312. 10 7.0 Star Wars ..01.22100 18 6.4 Starglider .1..1141.1 9 6.6 Starglider II ....*..... 1 5.0 Strider II ...2...222 4 7.8 Stunt Car Racer .0.0.12101 12 7.0 Sundog ....*..... 1 5.0 Super Cars, The .......*.. 1 8.0 Supremacy ......55.. 2 7.5 T.V. Sports Football ...5.....5 2 7.0 Team Yankee * ......*... 1 7.0 Teller, The ........*. 1 9.0 Tennis Cup 22.2..22.. 5 4.4 Terrorpods 2..222...2 5 5.2 Tetris .......252 4 9.0 Their Finest Hour: Battle Of Britain ......*... 1 7.0 Third Courier, The .....422.0 16 7.0 Time Bandit .......55. 2 8.5 Tower Toppler .......*.. 1 8.0 Toyota Celica G.T. ....3...33 3 8.0 Ultima III ......22.5 4 8.8 Ultima IV ......2222 4 8.5 Ultima V .....*.... 1 6.0 Ultimate Ride, The ......*... 3 7.0 Universe II .....63... 3 6.3 Wargame Construction Set .......442 5 8.8 Wayne Gretzky Hockey ........*. 1 9.0 Wrath Of The Daemon ...00015.0 13 7.3 Xenon .......27. 8 8.8 Xenon 2 .3..23.1.. 9 4.7 Xevious In this list, games have been rated on a scale of 1 to 10, 10 being the best and 1 being the worst. For each game, the total number of votes, the average rating, and the vote distribution are shown. New games are indicated by a "*" before their entry. If a "(C)" appears after the title it means that the game is a CD-ROM or disc system title. If a "(J)" appears after the title it means that the game is currently only available in Japan. The general guideline for ratings is: 8-10 worth buying at full price 6-7 worth buying at a discount, or if you're particularly interested in this kind of game 3-5 only worth renting 2 only worth playing for free, and only for a few minutes 1 worthless The vote distribution uses a single character to represent the percentage of votes for each ranking. The following character codes can appear: "." no votes cast "3" 30-39% of the votes "7" 70-79% of the votes "0" 1-9% of the votes "4" 40-49% of the votes "8" 80-89% of the votes "1" 10-19% of the votes "5" 50-59% of the votes "9" 90-99% of the votes "2" 20-29% of the votes "6" 60-69% of the votes "*" 100% of the votes Please consult the article entitled "ABOUT THE VIDEO GAME RATINGS REPORT" in the newsgroup rec.games.video for more details, including information on how to vote. Questions, comments, problems, and errors should be directed to the list maintainer at either of the below addresses: video-request@irss.njit.edu ..!uunet!irss.njit.edu!video-request -- eric ng erc@zabriskie.berkeley.edu .!ucbvax!zabriskie!erc ------------------------------ End of Info-Atari16 Digest ******************************