Info-Atari16 Digest Wed, 24 Jul 91 Volume 91 : Issue 405 Today's Topics: Accidently formatting Address for Current Notes magazine ANS: Multisynch and other monitors (Help!) ANS: Sticking a 30/60MB drive in my SH204? Current Notes DigiStuff (latest versions of digital sample utilities) available HELP!!! with lharc Howard Chu, where are you? Latest Gulam or better shell Mega 2 ST forsale Multisync Monitor question (2 msgs) Powerdrone Roms for spectre 128 Tape backup question The demise of ST World Use Unlzh 1.72 for Unlzhing! Works with all! Wanted: Digitizer for ST WANTED: Stereo-Tek Glasses Word Perfect and fonts (3 msgs) Welcome to the Info-Atari16 Digest. The configuration for the automatic cross-posting to/from Usenet is getting closer, but still getting thrashed out. Please send notifications about broken digests or bogus messages to Info-Atari16-Request@NAUCSE.CSE.NAU.EDU. Please send requests for un/subscription and other administrivia to Info-Atari16-Request, *NOT* Info-Atari16. Requests that go to the list instead of the moderators are likely to be lost or ignored. If you want to unsubscribe, and you're receiving the digest indirectly from someplace (usually a BITNET host) that redistributes it, please contact the redistributor, not us. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: 24 Jul 91 17:11:19 GMT From: mcsun!news.funet.fi!fuug!sics.se!ifi.uio.no!nuug!ugle.unit.no!carlfred@uunet.uu .net (Carl-Fredrik Soerensen) Subject: Accidently formatting To: Info-Atari16@naucse.cse.nau.edu Hello Everyone ! A friend of mine have an Atari 1040STE. He has accidently formatted a floppy with some days work (he had no backup). I wonder if there exists any opportunities to recover the data (as Norton Utilities etc.) Please e-mail me answers.. Thanks ! Carl-Fredrik Soerensen (carlfred@idt.unit.no) ------------------------------ Date: 24 Jul 91 19:16:57 GMT From: haven.umd.edu!uvaarpa!murdoch!holmes.acc.Virginia.EDU!lch3e@purdue.edu (Lauren C. Howard) Subject: Address for Current Notes magazine To: Info-Atari16@naucse.cse.nau.edu Yikes!! The CORRECTED address for Current Notes magazine: 122 N. Johnson Rd, STERLING, Va. 22170 For you gamers, their reviews usually include lots of hints. If you like the Atari world, this mag is for you. $27/yr (10 issues) ------------------------------ Date: 24 JUL 91 15:49:54 CDT From: Z4648252 Subject: ANS: Multisynch and other monitors (Help!) To: Rick Tatem asks, > >... Does anyone have any (reasonable) suggestions, >recommendations, tips, leads, etc. on a good multisynch >or other compatible monitor for a 1040STf? > >Are gray-scale multisynchs any good? What makes and models >offer the most reasonable compromises between quality and >price? > The overall best unit is the NEC 3D. It is very sharp in all resolutions, can memorize your screen size and will end the clutter of equipment on the desk. It will also end your wallet, too. $600.00. A great paper-white monochrome monitor is the NEC GS2A. I find it better than the Atari monochrome monitor and it costs about $50.00 more. For everybody BUT Atari STs, it is a gray-scale multisync. Atari's video does not support gray-scale. This monitor would be suitable only as replacement for the Atari monochrome. Norm Weinress, of O.P.I., the company that makes the D.E.K.A. keyboard adaptor for the ST is developing a gray scale card. He can be found on GEnie and on Delphi. Oh, the cost for the GS2A is about $225.00. Larry Rymal |>Atari ST Users of East Texas<| Stephen F. Austin State University, Nacogdoches, Texas ------------------------------ Date: 24 JUL 91 15:41:51 CDT From: Z4648252 Subject: ANS: Sticking a 30/60MB drive in my SH204? To: Dom Alvear asks, > >I would like to know if anybody has successfully upgraded the >Atari SH204 to another size.... > Highly recommended! I installed a SeaGate 296n in my old SH204 three years ago and it works PERFECTLY. No fuss, no muss. Be sure to clean the power connectors very well as the SeaGate is quite fussy about resistance-free power. Larry Rymal |>Atari ST Users of East Texas<| Stephen F. Austin State University, Nacogdoches, Texas ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 24 Jul 91 15:15:43 EDT From: poehland%phvax.dnet@smithkline.com Subject: Current Notes To: "info-atari16@naucse.cse.nau.edu"%INET.dnet@smithkline.com In IA16 V19#404 24JUL1991 Lauren Howard of ACCCHU mentioned that Current Notes is now the best Atari mag around, bar none. I quite agree. Here is the correct address for CN: Current Notes 122 N. Johnson Rd. Sterling VA 22170 phone (703)450-4761 My opinion of this magazine, unlike Mr. Howard's, isn't exactly unbiased. I devote an average of 25 hours/week of my personal time to CN, with no pay. I'm the 8-bit Editor, but I also own a 1040STe. Which just goes to show money isn't everything. Quality flows when you have motivated people. STart/ANTIC, recently demised, never rose above med- iocrity. CN has always had a hard core of followers who know TRUTH when they read it (we spare no one), who keep coming back for more. As long as anyone is interested in an atari computer, we will be there. I don't give away 100hrs/month of my time for nothing. - BEN POEHLAND 8-BIT EDITOR CURRENT NOTES MAGAZINE ------------------------------ Date: 24 Jul 91 15:54:19 GMT From: noao!ncar!elroy.jpl.nasa.gov!sdd.hp.com!uakari.primate.wisc.edu!aplcen!boingo.m ed.jhu.edu!haven.umd.edu!wam.umd.edu!dmb@arizona.edu (David M. Baggett) Subject: DigiStuff (latest versions of digital sample utilities) available To: Info-Atari16@naucse.cse.nau.edu Well it's been over a year since I've updated the copies of Beep, Digitial Keyclick, Digivec, Play, etc. at atari.archive, so I've made a new archive which contains the latest versions of all these and more. Here's an exerpt from the doc file that comes with it, FYI: ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- The accompanying self-extracting archive contains the following digitized sound utilities: Program Ver. Function ------- ---- -------- Beep v1.5 Replace system beep with digital sample Digital Keyclick v1.7 Replace keyclick with digital samples Digivec v1.5 Trigger digital samples on system errors QD Play v1.7 Play sounds from desktop or AUTO folder st2hippo v1.2 Convert ST format sounds to Hippo format hippo2st v1.2 Covnert Hippo format sounds to ST format sparc2st v1.0 Convert SparcStation .au files to ST format The most notable improvment in the AUTO folder programs is support for alternate D/A devices like the Hippo/Navarone and ST Replay digitizers. QD Play now has a -r option to play sounds in reverse. All of the utilities have been made much more robust since the first versions. Note that all are FREE except for Digital Keyclick, which is SHAREWARE. If you like any of the programs, please send in the $15 registration fee for Digital Keyclick. See the Digital Keyclick doc file for info on what you'll get when you register. If you've already registered, thanks a bunch! ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- This should be available from atari.archive.umich.edu in the next few days. Look for it initially in atari/newitems/digistuf.arc, then later in atari/sound/players/digistuf.arc. Please let me know if there are any problems. Dave Baggett dmb@wam.umd.edu PS> If anyone would like to loan me an STe, I'll be more than happy to make these work with DMA sound! (A TT would be fine too.) :-/ ------------------------------ Date: 24 Jul 91 13:05:34 GMT From: deccrl!news.crl.dec.com!nntpd.lkg.dec.com!nodename.dec.com!oconnor@decwrl.dec.c om (My name is Joe O'Connor) Subject: HELP!!! with lharc To: Info-Atari16@naucse.cse.nau.edu Hi, I'm not trying to start a falme war or anything but I need to know which lharc will work with these 2 files: cocktail.lzh gods.lzh I have lharc 0.51 it extracts the files and gives me one unamed file but no real files. While running, it says each individual file exists but it does appear to extract them. But when it is done I just get this one unnamed file. Any ideas or someone who can tell me which version of lharc to use would be most helpful and appreciated. Thanks in advance. Joe ------------------------------ Date: 24 Jul 91 21:00:24 GMT From: noao!asuvax!ncar!elroy.jpl.nasa.gov!swrinde!zaphod.mps.ohio-state.edu!magnus.ac s.ohio-state.edu!usenet.ins.cwru.edu!eagle!csduts1.lerc.nasa.gov!fsctc@arizona. edu (Clarence T. Chang) Subject: Howard Chu, where are you? To: Info-Atari16@naucse.cse.nau.edu Howard, I know you moved to JPL. Are you still monitoring this SIG? I have some questions regarding the ka9q package that you put together a while back. Please contact me here via email. Thanks. Clarence T. Chang fsctc@csduts1.lerc.nasa.gov ------------------------------ Date: 24 Jul 91 19:00:50 GMT From: ftpbox!mothost!motcid!zafiris@uunet.uu.net (John Zafiris) Subject: Latest Gulam or better shell To: Info-Atari16@naucse.cse.nau.edu I have an old (very old: alpha version from I like it and the built in emacs but it has bugs particularly in its memory management. Is there a more recent version or is there another program that does a similar thing and includes emacs? I've heard of something called okami (sp?); what is it like. I don't have access to any of the archives (I've tried and tried) so is anybody willing to mail me a copy of a newer gulam or something better? Thanks in advance... ...John ------------------------------ Date: 24 Jul 91 16:29:27 GMT From: noao!asuvax!ncar!elroy.jpl.nasa.gov!swrinde!zaphod.mps.ohio-state.edu!caen!spoo l.mu.edu!cs.umn.edu!ub.d.umn.edu!bgrave@arizona.edu (Brian Grave) Subject: Mega 2 ST forsale To: Info-Atari16@naucse.cse.nau.edu For Sale... Atari Mega 2 ST system and software. Here's what I've got: Mega 2 ST - 2 Meg RAM CPU with detached keyboard, internal 720K 3.5" floppy and mouse. SC 1224 - Color monitor Master 3s - External 720K 3.5" disk drive and cables. Supra 2400 - 2400 baud external modem with RS232 cable Over 60+ disks of software and Public Domain (mostly games) including: Flash 1.6 Communications Dungeon Master Chaos Strikes Back With Maps (if you want them) Sundog and more... Disk Case - Desktop disk holder with space for up to 90 disks I'd like to sell the system as a whole (naturally) but I might consider offers on individual items if there is enough interest. I'm asking $1150 + shipping for the whole shibang. E-mail bgrave@ub.d.umn.edu if interested. -- Brian Grave bgrave@ub.d.umn.edu "When I die I'm going to leave my body to science ... fiction." - Steven Wright ------------------------------ Date: 24 Jul 91 02:44:01 GMT From: noao!ncar!elroy.jpl.nasa.gov!usc!wupost!emory!gatech!pitt!unix.cis.pitt.edu!gvl f3.gvl.unisys.com!tredysvr!cellar!revpk@arizona.edu (Brian 'Rev P-K' Siano) Subject: Multisync Monitor question To: Info-Atari16@naucse.cse.nau.edu I'm led to believe that, with a Multisync monitor, I'd be able to use both monochrome and color resolutions on my ST. My question is: Does it matter just what kind of Multisync monitor I get? I've seen some 2Ds as low as two hundred dollars-- would it workl with an Omniswitch? """""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""" Brian Siano, Delaware Valley Skeptics Rev. Philosopher-King of The First Church of the Divine Otis Redding revpk@Cellar.UUCP "Ecrasez l'enfame!" - Voltaire """""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""" ------------------------------ Date: 25 Jul 91 02:21:14 GMT From: europa.asd.contel.com!gatech!mailer.cc.fsu.edu!nu!boyd@uunet.uu.net (Mickey Boyd) Subject: Multisync Monitor question To: Info-Atari16@naucse.cse.nau.edu In article <3Rik63w164w@cellar.UUCP>, revpk@cellar.UUCP (Brian 'Rev P-K' Siano) writes: > > I'm led to believe that, with a Multisync monitor, I'd be able to use >both monochrome and color resolutions on my ST. That is true, although the mono is a bit grainy on the two such units I have seen. It has been posted that will a high grade Multisync this is not true, but I have not seen this. > > My question is: Does it matter just what kind of Multisync monitor I >get? I've seen some 2Ds as low as two hundred dollars-- would it workl with >an Omniswitch? > Yes, it does matter. There are some specs that the monitor must meet. I suggest that you call Toad Computers (1-800-544-6923) and ask them. They have introduced a monitor-switchbox/multisync adaptor box themselves (in this months issue of Current Notes) which costs $59 ($39 for monitor switching only). They should know the specs you need. I am in no way connected with Toad blah blah. -- ---------------------------------+------------------------------------- Mickey R. Boyd | "Kirk to Enterprise. All clear FSU Computer Science | down here. Beam down Technical Support Group | yeoman Rand and a six-pack . ." email: boyd@nu.cs.fsu.edu | ---------------------------------+------------------------------------- ------------------------------ Date: 24 Jul 91 15:08:31 GMT From: europa.asd.contel.com!gatech!mailer.cc.fsu.edu!nu!boyd@uunet.uu.net (Mickey Boyd) Subject: Powerdrone To: Info-Atari16@naucse.cse.nau.edu I just got my new Current Notes, and there is a liquidation ad from Bare Bones Software (Never heard of them, by the way). The poster looking for Powerdrone my be interested that it is offered for $19.95 in this ad. The number is 1-800-638-1123 I am in no way connected with this company, CN, etc. Just FYI. -- ---------------------------------+------------------------------------- Mickey R. Boyd | "Kirk to Enterprise. All clear FSU Computer Science | down here. Beam down Technical Support Group | yeoman Rand and a six-pack . ." email: boyd@nu.cs.fsu.edu | ---------------------------------+------------------------------------- ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 24 Jul 91 16:12:53 GMT From: System Administrator Subject: Roms for spectre 128 To: info-atari16 <@nsfnet-relay.ac.uk:info-atari16@naucse.cse.nau.edu> Hello Atari users.. anyone in the UK know of a source of the Mac Roms for the emulator? I have asked around local with no joy. otherwise anyone know of a suitable location stateside? ok cheers Mick root@uk.ac.scp.cms ------------------------------ Date: 25 Jul 91 01:40:57 GMT From: noao!asuvax!cs.utexas.edu!ut-emx!ccwf.cc.utexas.edu!tdrga@arizona.edu (Todd Drga) Subject: Tape backup question To: Info-Atari16@naucse.cse.nau.edu Has anyone put together their own tape backup system? If so, what type of mech and controller did you use? What software? On a related note, what mech does the ICD FaST tape backup system use? I have a ICD Advantage Plus controller hooked to a Syquest 555 and a Seagate ST296N. I am wondering what kind of tape backup I could add in to the system. I also need to know what software (besides the ICD FaST software) will support tape backup on the ST. Thanks, Todd Drga -- = INTERNET-> tdrga@ccwf.cc.utexas.edu (Todd Drga, UT Dept. of Drama) = = = = ' The dry grass will set fire to the damp grass ' = = = = African proverb brought to the Americas by slaves = ------------------------------ Date: 24 Jul 91 11:30:38 GMT From: mcsun!ukc!keele!nott-cs!unicorn!cczcole@uunet.uu.net (Marlon Cole) Subject: The demise of ST World To: Info-Atari16@naucse.cse.nau.edu In article mathew@mantis.co.uk writes: >In <1991Jul19.104543.3204@newcastle.ac.uk>, Dave Halliday writes: >> >> I'll reserve judgement on the new look ST User untill I have seen it. >> If the editorial staff from ST World move over to ST User it could be >> very good. > >Erm, the "New Look ST User" is the one which has been on the shelves for >the last six months. It's marginally less crap than it used to be now that >the old ST World crew write for it, but it's still pretty dire. > >Or is there a NEW new-look ST User? > The August copy says that the New new-look ST User will feature ST World incorporated within its pages, so it will be another re-vamp. Personally I object to the current new-look being written for 10 year olds by (seemingly) 10 year olds - a picture of Bart Simpson on the front of a recent edition says it all, I think. Hopefully the writing style and coverage, will change for the better (and elder!), but I guess not. Still none of the ads. in it are mentioning Mega STEs for sale - anyone in the UK got one yet, and if so, for how much? Marlon Cole Systems Programmer Cripps Computing Centre University of Nottingham. ------------------------------ Date: 24 Jul 91 17:46:19 GMT From: noao!ncar!elroy.jpl.nasa.gov!usc!apple!portal!cup.portal.com!Bryan_Jones_Woodwo rth@arizona.edu Subject: Use Unlzh 1.72 for Unlzhing! Works with all! To: Info-Atari16@naucse.cse.nau.edu I have heard ENOUGH! I don't see why everyone has problems with LZH and LHarc.. All you need to do is use UNLZH 1.72 and all your files will be unlzh'd easily and painlessly! It uses a nice GEM interface and I have had *no* problems with it. I use DC Utilities' DC Xtract 2.0 to LZH files. Before I upload them, I "test" the archive for errors. Once in a while the file fails the CRC check, but when it passes 95% of the time, I proceed to upload it. If you do the above -- use UNLZH 1.72 to unlzh, then use a LZH'r which can test LZHives -- you will have no problems whatsoever. However, there is no way you can get around bad LZH files someone else may have uploaded. WE just need to encourage everyone to test their LZH'd files; otherwise, use ARC. Here is how to get Unlzh 1.72 from Terminator: (This is the description of the file): >unlzh172.lzh 176 Unlharc version 1.72. I don't use this one. :). YOU SHOULD :) Request terminology: send archivers/unlzh172.lzh Enclosed in a message to: atari@atari.archive.umich.edu sincerely, Bryan_Jones_Woodworth@cup.portal.com ------------------------------ Date: 24 Jul 91 15:44:27 GMT From: unhd.unh.edu!oz!pyr579@uunet.uu.net (Technoid) Subject: Wanted: Digitizer for ST To: Info-Atari16@naucse.cse.nau.edu Hello, I'm looking for a sound digitizer for the ST. I remember a few years ago that there were a couple models which plug into the cartridge port. I would like a mic jack as well as normal audio input like from a CD player if that type of thing is available. Please reply E-mail Stephan -- \/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/ pyr579@oz.plymouth.edu Stephan R. Cleaves Salamanders Are Cool... /\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\ ------------------------------ Date: 24 Jul 91 18:56:24 GMT From: noao!ncar!elroy.jpl.nasa.gov!sdd.hp.com!hp-pcd!hpmcaa!patrick@arizona.edu (Patrick Hawke) Subject: WANTED: Stereo-Tek Glasses To: Info-Atari16@naucse.cse.nau.edu Is there a Commercial Source available for the Stereo-Tek Glasses? DO You have a pair you want to sell? Contact Me: ___ /__/ ___ /atrick / <_/ames/__/ / /awke patrick@hpmcaa.mcm.hp.com ------------------------------ Date: 24 Jul 91 13:41:24 GMT From: noao!ncar!elroy.jpl.nasa.gov!swrinde!zaphod.mps.ohio-state.edu!rpi!psinntp!roda n.acs.syr.edu!ggreenbe@arizona.edu (Gerald Greenberg) Subject: Word Perfect and fonts To: Info-Atari16@naucse.cse.nau.edu I don't believe WP uses gdos fonts, so I was wondering if any of the font manipulators out there will allow you to use different fonts with WP for the ST? I'd even be interested if a program allows you to replace the system font...as long as WP doesn't simply override that and return to the original system font when it loads. Does anybody have any ideas? Thanks, Gerry ggreenbe@rodan.acs.syr.edu ------------------------------ Date: 24 Jul 91 16:04:52 GMT From: bonnie.concordia.ca!ccu.umanitoba.ca!bright@uunet.uu.net (Bob Bright) Subject: Word Perfect and fonts To: Info-Atari16@naucse.cse.nau.edu In article <1991Jul24.134124.20465@rodan.acs.syr.edu> ggreenbe@rodan.acs.syr.edu (Gerald Greenberg) writes: >I don't believe WP uses gdos fonts, so I was wondering if any >of the font manipulators out there will allow you to use >different fonts with WP for the ST? I'd even be interested if >a program allows you to replace the system font...as long as >WP doesn't simply override that and return to the original >system font when it loads. >Does anybody have any ideas? A couple of years ago I needed some special characters in a document I was working on. I tried replacing the system font using font.ttp, and also some accessory that does a similar trick (the name escapes me right now), but in each case WP just reverted to using the normal system font. I know that my new font was resident, because when I called up the Alt/Ctl key mapping screen, the table of characters at the bottom was displayed using the new font; but for some reason WP would only display the normal system font on the document screen. I called WPCorp to find out whether they had hard-coded the address of the ROM character tables into the program, or whether the program uses its own built-in display font (which just happens to be identical to the system font). The ST Support person didn't want to tell me much (it seems that WPCorp takes a dim view of people hacking on their executables), but did finally hint that the program uses its own fonts. So I went searching through the program with a binary editor, thinking that I would find the character tables and modify them directly. But I wasn't able to locate them. :-( Truth to be told, I don't even know exactly what to look for. If anyone has any suggestions I'd be forever grateful, as I'm sure would Gerry and others who would like to see some different characters in their WP documents. BBB -- Bob Bright Dept. of Philosophy University of Manitoba Winnipeg, Man R3T 2N2 (204) 474-9105 ------------------------------ Date: 24 Jul 91 20:21:29 GMT From: fs7.ece.cmu.edu!crabapple.srv.cs.cmu.edu!andrew.cmu.edu!gs32+@sei.cmu.edu (Geoffrey Spear) Subject: Word Perfect and fonts To: Info-Atari16@naucse.cse.nau.edu I don't think WP uses GDOS fonts, it just selects the fonts from those the printer has available (I have a VERY OLD Okidata and I have no font options...) Geoffrey Spear gs32+@andrew.cmu.edu Carnegie Mellon Summer Pre-College ------------------------------ End of Info-Atari16 Digest ******************************