Info-Atari16 Digest Wed, 3 Jul 91 Volume 91 : Issue 372 Today's Topics: 68000 socket adapter Amiga is better then [sic] what??? Any software that prints in color? Atari Dealers Elvis Inserts Newlines in my Files Gnu-emacs under MiNT MINIX on an Atari TT? (2 msgs) MINIX on an Mac Portable Unix Windows, Where? Welcome to the Info-Atari16 Digest. The configuration for the automatic cross-posting to/from Usenet is getting closer, but still getting thrashed out. Please send notifications about broken digests or bogus messages to Info-Atari16-Request@NAUCSE.CSE.NAU.EDU. Please send requests for un/subscription and other administrivia to Info-Atari16-Request, *NOT* Info-Atari16. Requests that go to the list instead of the moderators are likely to be lost or ignored. If you want to unsubscribe, and you're receiving the digest indirectly from someplace (usually a BITNET host) that redistributes it, please contact the redistributor, not us. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: 3 Jul 91 20:40:33 GMT From: noao!ncar!elroy.jpl.nasa.gov!jato!hanauma.jpl.nasa.gov!hyc@arizona.edu (Howard Chu) Subject: 68000 socket adapter To: Info-Atari16@naucse.cse.nau.edu In article <1991Jul2.144355.14427@uvm.edu> pegram@kira.UUCP (Robert B. Pegram) writes: >Keep us posted Howard, I at least, am very interested (he said, >thinking of putting his 1.62 STe in a tower case). Oh yeah, don't you >have a tower? What did you get to keep the FCC off your back? >thanks, > >Bob Pegram Yep, I put a Mega ST into a tower case. All in all, a pretty dissatisfying experience, not one I'd really recommend. The Mega's floppy drive cable was too short, and the drivers are too weak to use with a longer cable. I.e., you have to also perform one of these drive upgrades that have been floating around the net if you want to haev things mounted & working right. (I used it as an excuse to install buffers & such for the high-density mode...) The tower case itself is all aluminum and sheet-metal, I don't think RF noise is a problem, it's kinda like a tank. Also, it's difficult to find a case with enough space for a Mega motherboard. (1 foot square.) Most of the available cases are intended for PCs, which are smaller & rectangular. Maybe it'll work better for 1040-case style changes. I had to go with a full-size tower case to have room for the motherboard itself, as well as two hard drives & two floppy drives. (Most cases offer plenty of drive bays, the problem is they get in the way, taking up space you need for the motherboard itself.) I also had to bend the cartridge port 90 degrees so I could still access it with the board on its side. (Can't live without my 4 meg cartridge-port RAMdisk! It refuses to work on my STe...) I've now got a 68030 burning a hole in my desk (not really, but I am getting impatient to try it out) waiting for my adapter to arrive. I suppose just for kicks I could plug it into the Mega, but I don't feel like pulling out my Turbo-16 just to watch TOS 1.4 choke on an '030... The adapter should arrive early next week. So it goes... -- -- Howard Chu @ Jet Propulsion Laboratory, Pasadena, CA Disclaimer: How would I know, I just got here! ------------------------------ Date: 3 Jul 91 02:24:56 GMT From: esseye!jdbbs!wybbs!therip!FredMail@uunet.uu.net (Rod Fulk) Subject: Amiga is better then [sic] what??? To: Info-Atari16@naucse.cse.nau.edu B> > Of course the amiga does multitask but I have very little use for B> multitasking.. B> B> That's what many people say, until they try Amiga multitasking. I have seen people use the multi tasking.. The main reason for multi tasking is that on the amiga many programs just have general functions due to the fact that many other programs can do these functions well. On the ST MOST of the programs that are out now (Games don't count since most dont multi task even on the amiga.. I am talking games like falcon etc.. Some you CAN multi task but you really do not wanna do so unless your running a fast machine) Anyhow, MOST of the ST programs out now have many ways of getting some of the important features done in a "multi tasking" environment. On the amiga multi tasking is very useful for the current software do to generalizatins.. On the ST this is not the case necissarily.. Multi tasking is of SOME use but not really that BIG a thing at the moment.. Desk accessories and TSR's running in the back ground normally pick up the slack on the ST where you would do them with multi tasking on an amiga. (However I can do SOME multi tasking on the ST with the power of the amiga's multi tasking with third party software... But why? It already can do all I need for it to do I do admit though that on SOME vague occasions I would have appreciated multi tasking..) Note, I have an 8meg IBM I run my 2 bbs lines off.. Desqview is a necessity in this environment. Multi tasking is great for this purpose... B> B> > As to sound? Well The ST is the only one so far that has the capability B> of 3d B> > sound. The STe series computers have the capability of using 3 seperate B> > speakers with different sounds out of each.... 2 of those full 8 bit B> digital.. B> B> How many bits is the other channel? The STe's stereo ports are each one voice of 8bit DMA sound... The monitor port (Which can be tied into the two stereo channels or left seperated from both. If combined then the stereo outputs also output to the monitor...) The third port has 3 voices of synthisizer quality (The normal ST's sound) When not in Digital mode these 3 voices are DMA type sounds.. It taxes the CPU when doing Digital sound. Digital sound is done much like the C-64.. All three channels are combined and you only get a 4.5bit sample out of it.. Realize that if left seperated from the stereo ports you have three DIFFERENT speakers with three different sounds comming out of them.. If you tie a tweety board onto the ST sound chip in the STe you could actually seperate the 3 channels of ST non-digital sound into three seperate channels.. That would give you a total of 6 speakers all of which would have different sounds comming from them... 2 Digital Channels (Stereo) 3 Seperate Sythisizer channels (NO digital stuff here.. Would sound like noise!) 1 combined channel of the above three channels. (You really couldnt do any digital stuff though cause the 3 seperated channels would sound very bad. B> B> So you're saying the ST can use all 16 Megs for graphics? I admit I B> wasn't B> aware of that. I thought it used a screen buffer. No screen buffer... An area is setaside for the screen but this is setup depending on the size of the screen. The STe's have very good scrolling capabilities. VERY fast.. The standard "limitation" is 4 meg... I am not sure but over 4 meg you might run into problems.. The TT has 4 meg of "Chip memory" available (if all is added) unlike the amigas 512-1meg (or 2meg in the 3000) The rest would be "fast ram" Waste memory? Anytime you have to load information into memory in two places would be considered to me to be a waste of memory.. With complicated animations on the amiga your limited to either 512k or forget about running on half the machines out there.. Anythign above this would have to be fed down from fast ram.. The st-ste-tt Is plug and go.. No need to feed anything down.. * Origin: The R.I.P. (616)235-2313 [HST] (1:228/24) ------------------------------ Date: 3 Jul 91 06:55:44 GMT From: noao!asuvax!cs.utexas.edu!swrinde!elroy.jpl.nasa.gov!wciu!abode!scale@arizona.e du (Luis Outumuro) Subject: Any software that prints in color? To: Info-Atari16@naucse.cse.nau.edu In article pdel@ADS.COM (Peter Delevoryas) writes: >My local Atari dealer said he knows of no software with >output to a color printer such as a citizen GSX140 which >has a color ribbon. > >Is this true, or does anyone know something he doesn't? > >thanks for any help, > >Peter D. > >-- > > login name: L1-A > In real life: Peter Delevoryas > In any other life: a cheap imitation Hi Peter, I could be wrong, but I believe the Citizen GSX140 is IBM Proprinter and Epson FX/JX 80 compatible; but you will need to check the manual for the GSX140. If the GSX140 is Epson JX80 compatible, you should be able to use the JX80 drivers in programs like Degas Elite and Deluxe Paint. Just trying to help, bye............... Luis ------------------------------ Date: 3 Jul 91 19:01:25 GMT From: unhd.unh.edu!oz!k_mullin@uunet.uu.net (Keith J. Mullins) Subject: Atari Dealers To: Info-Atari16@naucse.cse.nau.edu Hello everyone, Being a new Atari owner, I do not know the locations of the Atari dealers in the USA. Does anyone have a list of places where I can purchase Atari software, preferably in New England but anywhere in the US is fine. I'm looking specifically for the new 3.02 Neodesk. Thanks, k_mullin@oz.plymouth.edu -- _-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_- Keith J. Mullins k_mullin@oz.plymouth.edu ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ ------------------------------ Date: 3 Jul 91 06:34:10 GMT From: tellab5!vpnet!orc@uunet.uu.net (david parsons) Subject: Elvis Inserts Newlines in my Files To: Info-Atari16@naucse.cse.nau.edu |Elvis? I've tried Levee too, and would use it except for the 32K file |limit. (Is there a more recent version of levee without the 32K |restriction?) Nope. I'm working, at somewhat less than the speed of continental drift, on it. It's the sort of thing that requires a lot of mental energy, and thus is too much for me at my advanced age... david parsons __ orc@pell.uucp(?) \/ ------------------------------ Date: 3 Jul 91 18:56:54 GMT From: noao!ncar!elroy.jpl.nasa.gov!swrinde!mips!pacbell.com!iggy.GW.Vitalink.COM!lll- winken!aunro!alberta!brazeau.ucs.ualberta.ca!unixg.ubc.ca!geog.ubc.ca!peter@ari zona.edu (Peter Jackson) Subject: Gnu-emacs under MiNT To: Info-Atari16@naucse.cse.nau.edu Hello, A while ago I asked whether anyone has been able to compile gnu-emacs using the MiNT libraries to allow multitasking / multiple shells etc. while running under MiNT. Since then several others have expressed strong interest, but there hasn't been any really concrete information passed along to me. (No one who replied had actually done it) About the most useful information came from a post here some time ago (which I saved). I haven't been able to contact the author of this post however -- maybe someone else could try. Anyway here it is: >From: erlingh@idt.unit.no (Erling Henanger) >Newsgroups: comp.sys.atari.st >Subject: Re: MiNT/MGR questions >Message-ID: <1991May5.191701.26757@ugle.unit.no> >Date: 5 May 91 19:17:01 GMT >References: <1991May2.094630.15445@cs.nott.ac.uk> >Sender: news@ugle.unit.no >Reply-To: erlingh@idt.unit.no >Organization: IDT -- Norwegian Institute of Technology >Lines: 16 > >Hi. I've just been fiddling with gnuemacs and mint08 myself. >What I basically did, was : > 1 grab the source from atari.archive > 2 remove most of the #ifdef atarist > (to get multiprocessing and so forth.) > 3 compile >It seems to work allright, I can run compile.el, and it starts a compilation in the background, >just nicely. I can fork shell commands, I can suspend emacs, it's all there except one thing : >I haven't been able to "dumpfix" xemacs, (Make a final dumped emacs) so I have to use >temacs -l loadup.el, whitch is no big deal if you have a TT, but on an ST.... > >-- > _______ _____ o ____ Erling Henanger > /___ /____/ / / /| / / Norwegian Institute > / /\ / / / | / | ___ of Technology. (NTH) > ------ / \ /____ / / |/ \____| o Atari Lives ! I guess before I try it, I'd like to know which #ifdef's need to be removed. However, I will try this out (eventually). In the meantime, if somone else has more information, or has tried it themselves, could they either post here or email me the information and I will summarize, as there seems to be quite alot of interest. -- ====================================================================== Peter L. Jackson | peter@geog.ubc.ca Atmospheric Science Programme | pjackson@unixg.ubc.ca Department of Geography | usermeso@ubcmtsg.bitnet University of British Columbia | ph:(604)822-2269 fax:(604)822-6150 ------------------------------ Date: 3 Jul 91 20:44:49 GMT From: noao!ncar!elroy.jpl.nasa.gov!jato!hanauma.jpl.nasa.gov!hyc@arizona.edu (Howard Chu) Subject: MINIX on an Atari TT? To: Info-Atari16@naucse.cse.nau.edu In article mathew@mantis.co.uk writes: >Has anyone tried running ST MINIX on a TT? Does it work? Anyone know of >any plans for a TT MINIX? A few people had modified theirs to run with 68020s, so I'd imagine half the work has already been done. Apparently the processor-specific changes are minimal. The next problem is how to utilize the new TT peripherals and such. -- -- Howard Chu @ Jet Propulsion Laboratory, Pasadena, CA Disclaimer: How would I know, I just got here! ------------------------------ Date: 3 Jul 91 20:21:10 GMT From: uhccux!uhunix2.uhcc.Hawaii.Edu!amiga@ames.arpa (ftp Amiga Manager) Subject: MINIX on an Atari TT? To: Info-Atari16@naucse.cse.nau.edu In article <1991Jul03.064618.11717@actrix.gen.nz> Alex.Valdez@actrix.gen.nz (Alex Valdez) writes: >In article mathew@mantis.co.uk writes: >> Has anyone tried running ST MINIX on a TT? Does it work? Anyone know of >> any plans for a TT MINIX? >> >> >> mathew >> -- >> << baby mother hospital scissors creature judgement butcher engineer >> > >Last I heard, MINIX doesn't work on 68030s, (TT or Amiga 3000). >-- >================================Alex Valdez============================= >"Alas sais na naman, oras ng pagdidili-dili... > Isaisip ang mabuti, ang masama'y iwaksi..." The following was recently posted to the comp.sys.amiga.emulations newsgroup (don't worry, no flame war stuff! :-) and may be help: --------------------------------->8 cut here 8<----------------------------- From uhccux!munnari.oz.au!uunet!mcsun!hp4nl!star.cs.vu.nl!sreiz Wed Jul 3 10:15:04 HST 1991 Minix is a version of un*x that has been ported to several common computers; the (IBM-compatible) PC, the Atari ST, the Apple Mac, and the Commodore Amiga. It is not an emulation but a complete OS, an alternative to the AmigaOS. It is a commercial product, published by Prentice Hall, the US price is (I think) $169. It runs on all amiga models including the a3000, and supports all Commodore hard disk controllers. The demo version of Amiga Minix can be found on ftp.cs.vu.nl [130.37.24.6], in /pub/sreiz/minix. Regards, Steven Reiz The standard minix info sheet follows below. 1. WHAT IS MINIX 1.5 MINIX 1.5 is a new version of an operating system that is very similar to UNIX. MINIX has been written from scratch, and therefore does not contain any AT&T code--not in the kernel, the compiler, the utilities, or the libraries. For this reason it can be made available with the complete source code (on diskette). It runs on the IBM PC, XT, AT, PS/2, 386, and most clones. Versions are also available for the Atari ST, Macintosh, and Amiga. This version (1.5) is a major improvement over all previous releases, with many new features, fewer bugs (hopefully), much better performance, and proper documentation. The old versions have been in widespread use all over the world for 3 years. There are probably tens of thousands of users. 2. MINIX 1.5 FEATURES (IBM, Macintosh, Atari, and Amiga versions) - System call compatible with V7 of the UNIX operating system - Full multiprogramming (multiple programs can run at once) - Kernighan and Ritchie compatible C compiler - Shell that is functionally identical to the Bourne shell - Five editors (emacs subset, vi clone, ex, ed, and simple screen editor) - Over 175 utilities (cat, cp, ed, grep, kermit, ls, make, sort, etc.) - Over 200 library procedures (atoi, fork, malloc, read, stdio, etc.) - Spelling checker with 40,000 word English dictionary - Full source code (in C) supplied on diskettes (OS, utilities, libraries) - Easy-to-read manual telling all about MINIX and how to install and use it 3. ADDITIONAL FEATURES In addition to the above features, there are other features present in some (but not all) versions of MINIX 1.5. Some of these are listed below. 3.1 ADDITIONAL MINIX 1.5 FEATURES (IBM VERSION): - Runs in protected mode on 286 and 386 - Support for extended memory up to 16M on 286 and 386 - Up to 3 simultaneous users on one machine - RS-232 serial line support with terminal emulation, kermit, zmodem, etc. - Distributed computing on Ethernet (remote login, etc.) 3.2 ADDITIONAL MINIX 1.5 FEATURES (MACINTOSH VERSION): - Up to 3 simultaneous users on one machine - RS-232 serial line support with terminal emulation, kermit, zmodem, etc. - Runs under Multifinder - Includes support for multiple user windows 3.3 ADDITIONAL MINIX 1.5 FEATURES (ATARI ST VERSION) - Up to 2 simultaneous users on one machine - RS-232 serial line support with terminal emulation, kermit, zmodem, etc. - Support for various real time clocks (Mega, BMS, ICD, Supra, Weide) 4. HARDWARE REQUIRED - IBM: PC, XT, AT, PS/2, or 386 that is 100% hardware compatible with the IBM line. A hard disk not technically required, but is strongly recommended to take full advantage of the system. At least 512K of RAM is required, as well as a CGA, EGA, monochrome, or Hercules video card, or another card that emulates one of these. Both 5.25" and 3.5" diskettes are supported, as are printers using the parallel port and modems and terminals using the serial port. - Macintosh: Apple Macintosh Plus, SE, SE/30, II, IIcx, or IIx with at least 1M of RAM. An additional 1M of RAM and a hard disk is strongly recommended. MINIX has been tested primarily with version 6.0 and latter of the Apple system software. Problems may conceivably arise with earlier versions. Any hard disk or display that is supported by the normal Macintosh OS is also supported by MINIX. - Atari: Atari ST or Mega ST with at least 1M of RAM. Although the system will boot with only 512K, you will be very restricted in what you can do. A 720K diskette drive is required to install the software. The older 360K diskette drives are supported, but are not capable of reading the (720K) distribution disks. A hard disk is supported, but is optional. Some of the Supra hard disks are not Atari compatible, which can cause problems. A fix is available from the MINIX Centre. - Amiga: Commodore Amiga 500, 100, 2000 or 3000 with at least 1M of RAM. One 720K diskette drive is sufficient. Hard disks connected to a Commodore Hard disk controller (A2090 SCSI, A2091, A590, A3000 hd controller) are supported. All processors (68000, 68010, 68020, 68030) are supported. A MMU is not required. 5. PARTIAL LIST OF UTILITIES INCLUDED IN MINIX 1.5 animals ar ascii at atrun backup badblocks banner basename bawk btoa cal cat cdiff cgrep chgrp chip chmem chmod chown clr cmp comm compress cp cpdir crc cron ctags cut date dd de df dhrystone diff diskcheck dosdir dosread doswrite du echo ed elle ex expand expr factor fgrep file find fold fortune fsck gather getlf getty grep gres head ic id ifdef indent inodes kill last leave ln login look lpr ls m4 machine mail make man mined mkdir mkfs mknod modem more mount mref mv nm nroff od passwd paste patch pr prep pretty printenv printroot ps pwd readall readfs recover ref rev rm rmdir roff rz sed shar size sleep sort spell split strings strip stty su sum sync sz tail tar tee term termcap test time touch tr traverse treecmp true tset tsort ttt umount unexpand uniq unshar update users uud uue vi vol wc whatsnew whereis which who whoami width write 6. PARTIAL LIST OF LIBRARY FUNCTIONS INCLUDED IN MINIX 1.5 abort abs access alarm atoi atol bcmp bcopy chmod chown chroot ctermid ctime ctype curses cuserid doprintf dup dup2 fgetc fgets fopen fork fpathconf fprintf fputc fputs fread freopen fseek fstat ftell fwrite getcwd getdents getegid getenv geteuid getgid getutil gtty index ioctl isatty kill link lock lrand lsearch lseek malloc memccpy memchr memcmp memcpy memmove memset message mkdir mkfifo mknod mktemp nlist open opendir pathconf pause peekpoke perror rand read readdir regexp regsub rename setbuf setgid setjmp setuid signal sleep sprintf stat strerror strlen strncat strncmp strncpy strpbrk strrchr strspn system telldir termcap time times tmpnam ttyname umask umount 7. CONTENTS OF MINIX 1.5 REFERENCE MANUAL Chap. 1 INTRODUCTION Chap. 2 INSTALLING MINIX ON THE IBM PC, XT, AT, 386, AND PS/2 Chap. 3 INSTALLING MINIX ON THE ATARI S Chap. 4 INSTALLING MINIX ON THE COMMODORE AMIGA Chap. 5 INSTALLING MINIX ON THE APPLE MACINTOSH Chap. 6 USING MINIX Chap. 7 RECOMPILING MINIX Chap. 8 MANUAL PAGES Chap. 9 EXTENDED MAN PAGES Chap. 10 SYSTEM CALLS Chap. 11 NETWORKING App. A MINIX SOURCE CODE LISTING App. B CROSS REFERENCE MAP 8. MINIX BOOK The author of MINIX, Andrew S. Tanenbaum, has written a book describing how operating systems in general and MINIX in particular work internally. The book describes an earlier version (and includes a source listing), but it is still useful for understanding how MINIX works inside, even if some details are now different. The bibliographic information is: Title: Operating Systems: Design and Implementation Author: Andrew S. Tanenbaum Publisher: Prentice-Hall ISBN: 0-13-637406-9 Paperback versions are also available in English (outside North America only), French, Spanish, Italian, and Japanese. The books can be ordered from any bookstore. 9. HOW TO ORDER MINIX 1.5 MINIX 1.5 is being sold by Prentice-Hall. The product numbers and prices are as follows: - MINIX 1.5 for the IBM: 5 1/4" (0-13-585076-2) $169 - MINIX 1.5 for the IBM: 3 1/2" (0-13-585068-1) $169 - MINIX 1.5 for the Amiga (0-13-585043-6) $169 - MINIX 1.5 for the Atari (0-13-585035-5) $169 - MINIX 1.5 for the Macintosh (0-13-585050-9) $169 (available Oct. 1) Sales tax and shipping are extra; Prices are slightly higher outside the U.S. All versions include the executable binaries, a detailed manual, the complete source code (on diskettes), and an attractively typeset, cross-referenced listing of the operating system code. P-H is making a big effort to get software stores to keep MINIX in stock. The easiest way to order it is to go to a software store and ask them for it. If they don't stock it, they can always order it. Alternatively, you can order directly by email, FAX, phone, or mail from Prentice-Hall as follows. In North America and the Far East To order by email: books@prenhall.com To order by FAX: (201) 767-5625 To order by phone: (800) 624-0023 or (201) 767-5969 To order by mail: Microservice Customer Service Simon & Schuster 200 Old Tappan Road Old Tappan, NJ 07675 In UK/Europe To order by email: books@prenhall.com To order by FAX: +1 (201) 767-5625 (US number) To order by phone: +44 (442) 231-555 (UK number) To order by mail: Order Dept. Prentice-Hall International 66 Wood Lane End Hemel Hempstead Herts. HP2 4RG ENGLAND For email and FAX orders, please include the product name and number, your name and address, and your MasterCard or VISA card number and expiration date. If you wish delivery by Federal Express (costs extra), please indicate so. MINIX can also be ordered from the following addresses: In England: The MINIX Center Forncett End Norwich Norfolk NR16 1HT England 0953-89345 In Germany: Steve Steinkrauss Feldtorweg 24 D3406 Bovenden 1 Germany In Scandinavia: Frank O'Donell P.O. Box 88 1371 Asker Norway In Spain and Deborah Worth Portugal: Appartado Numero 50672 Madrid Spain In Italy: Jim Blaho Piazza Santo Spirito 17 50125 Florence Italy In Greece: Vassilis Zahos Kritonos 5-7 GR 11634 Athens Greece In Turkey: Atilla Gullu Milli Mudafaa Cad 14/7 Kizilay Ankara Turkey If you have previously purchased MINIX from Prentice-Hall, you can get a discount of $60, but only if you order by mail and include the label from the original PH boot disk (or the entire disk) with your letter. Not valid for email, phone or FAX orders since you must enclose the original boot disk label (not a photocopy). Mail orders can be by credit card or check for $169. You will be billed for tax and shipping. 10. LEGAL STATUS OF MINIX Although MINIX is supplied with the complete source code, it is copyrighted software. It is not public domain. It is also not like GNU. However, the copyright owner, Prentice-Hall has granted permission to bona fide universities to copy the software for use in courses and in university research projects. It is also permitted for MINIX owners to change the software to suit their needs and to distribute diff listings containing their changes freely. The shrink-wrap license that comes with MINIX states that you may legally make two backup copies of the software. Prentice-Hall is being much less strict than other software vendors. Please do not abuse this. Companies that wish to embed MINIX in commercial systems or sell MINIX-based products should call (212) 753-7753 to discuss licensing terms. 11. NEWS ABOUT MINIX Since its introduction in January 1987, there has been a large an active USENET newsgroup about MINIX, comp.os.minix. It currently has about 25,000 members. Over 12,000 messages have been posted to this group so far. These messages have contained questions, bug reports, bug fixes, new software, and diff listings to allow current users to update to new releases for free. It is the intention to continue this policy into the indefinite future. MINIX users on Bitnet can be put on a mailing list by sending mail to: info-minix-request@udel.edu. Various archives store newsgroup traffic for newcomers to the newsgroup. 12. FUTURE PLANS The major current project is bringing MINIX into conformance with the IEEE POSIX P1003.1 and P1003.2 standards. This will (hopefully) occur with V2.0, perhaps in 1992. V2.0 will also be provided with an ANSI C compiler. Various people are currently working on 32-bit versions of MINIX for the 386, and numerous other projects. To keep up, subscribe to the comp.os.minix newsgroup. -- // uhunix amiga archive | amiga@uhunix.uhcc.hawaii.edu | ftp: ftp.hawaii.edu \X/ "just another peon" | baron@uhunix.uhcc.hawaii.edu | 128.171.7.7 ------------------------------ Date: 3 Jul 91 19:02:37 GMT From: noao!ncar!elroy.jpl.nasa.gov!swrinde!ucsd!ucrmath!hubbell!rhyde@arizona.edu (randy hyde) Subject: MINIX on an Mac Portable To: Info-Atari16@naucse.cse.nau.edu A fellow BIX'er has been having troubles getting MacMinix to run on a Macintosh portable. Does anyone have any suggestions? He can't get it to boot at all. *** Randy Hyde rhyde@ucrmath.ucr.edu ------------------------------ Date: 3 Jul 91 15:35:28 GMT From: noao!ncar!elroy.jpl.nasa.gov!swrinde!mips!spool.mu.edu!cs.umn.edu!uc!apctrc!drd !d.cs.okstate.edu!cummins@arizona.edu (John Cummins) Subject: Unix Windows, Where? To: Info-Atari16@naucse.cse.nau.edu I located uw in a uw directory within one of the volumeXX directories of atari/binaries/ Question: Not having anything other than lowly user access to a unix box, and not knowing any particulars about "Ultrix" (our unix box OS) I was wondering about the Unix side of this uw thing. What is needed for it to work? Just a c compiler? Some header files perhaps? Thanks! jc cummins@d.cs.ostate.edu ------------------------------ End of Info-Atari16 Digest ******************************