Info-Atari16 Digest Mon, 22 Apr 91 Volume 91 : Issue 224 Today's Topics: .reb? Atari & MAC, SPECTRE... Atari Color Monitors Atari Portfolio users! atari user mag British systems Can GCC treat printer like file? EZTest Test Maker Files sent to atari.archive Hard disk bootblock viruses Help needed with TOS 1.4 and TDI's Modula-2 Megafile 60 noisy startup/ shutdown Okami Shell - NOT with VI, NO ARGV/xARG support! STE Demo / Demo Party (2 msgs) The Atari SIG on the Freenet! VKiller 3.81 Welcome to the Info-Atari16 Digest. The configuration for the automatic cross-posting to/from Usenet is getting closer, but still getting thrashed out. Please send notifications about broken digests or bogus messages to Info-Atari16-Request@NAUCSE.CSE.NAU.EDU. Please send requests for un/subscription and other administrivia to Info-Atari16-Request, *NOT* Info-Atari16. Requests that go to the list instead of the moderators are likely to be lost or ignored. If you want to unsubscribe, and you're receiving the digest indirectly from someplace (usually a BITNET host) that redistributes it, please contact the redistributor, not us. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: 21 Apr 91 19:58:20 GMT From: noao!asuvax!cs.utexas.edu!swrinde!mips!atha!aunro!ersys!arktik@arizona.edu (Ryan Daum) Subject: .reb? To: Info-Atari16@naucse.cse.nau.edu The problem with doing it in ProRebel form is that unkowingly you have included the entire ProCopy program! The way ProRebel does it's magic is it runs ProCopy and then when it reaches a certain point, it dumps all the contents of memorY (including the program) to disk. ___________________________________________ -=- ersys!arktik@nro.cs.athabascau.ca -=- |||---------------------------------------||| ||| Ryan Daum -- Professional Human ||| |||---------------------------------------||| -=- -=- ------------------------------ Date: 20 Apr 91 02:29:52 GMT From: noao!ncar!zaphod.mps.ohio-state.edu!think.com!mintaka!bloom-beacon!eru!hagbard! sunic!fuug!funic!santra!saha.hut.fi!s37837k@arizona.edu (Jari Lehto) Subject: Atari & MAC, SPECTRE... To: Info-Atari16@naucse.cse.nau.edu In article <1991Apr18.211304.4775@cs.cmu.edu> francois@LOIRE.EDRC.CMU.EDU (Francois Bonnafy) writes: >I offen heard from these emulators for the Atari, allowing it to run Mac >software . Advertising says that it is wunderful, efficient, fast, sure... > >But say, who believe advertising? > >So my questions: > >- Do ALL the software for Mackies function on the emulator? Not all, but a large majority. Those having copyprotection rarely work, because they try to directly look the floppy-controller. Generally, programs that do direct hardware access, won't work I have found very few of them. >- how fast is it in comparison to a Mac LC or IIsi? With basic ST/Mega, it is 20% faster than Mac Plus. But with accelerator installed, you can even beat Mac IIfx... Dunno about these models you asked. >- How offen do the programs cras down? Some can do it regularly... But normally a crash occurs quite seldom. It depends what are you running. I have used Spectre without crash many days without even resetting the machine. And Spectre can recover from quite severe crashes too. >_ What kind of hardware can you use with it (Portrait Screens CD, ...) Almost any hardware, ST or Mac oriented. No Mac-screens can be used, but there are quite many graphics-cards available for ST. And TT has enough resolution without any cards. You can even use AppleTalk and Mac SCSI with a special interface. TT has it's own LAN, that works like AppleTalk with Spectre. >I will compile the answer and make a posting of it > >Thank you in advance > >Francois No problem. Jartsu * * * Nothing yet, but I'll keep on scanning... * * ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ * ------------------------------ Date: 21 Apr 91 16:02:19 GMT From: noao!ncar!zaphod.mps.ohio-state.edu!unix.cis.pitt.edu!resst11@arizona.edu (Ryk E Spoor) Subject: Atari Color Monitors To: Info-Atari16@naucse.cse.nau.edu I have a problem that I hope someone can help with. It seems that certain models of the color monitor, including the one I have, display colors much more darkly than they should. As an example, there are parts of Dungeon Master where I can barely see things even when I've got all the torches I can light on (and these same sections come out bright and clear on someone else's monitor.) My questions (please Email answers, since I often don't have time to read through news): 1) can I adjust this thing so it will be brighter? and 2), if the answer is "no", does someone have a monitor I could get cheap that WOULD be brighter? I'd be willing to trade and then add bucks on top. The monitor FUNCTIONS fine, it just is darker than it ought to be; if you are mostly into word processing it wouldn't give you any problems at all. Thanx, Sea Wasp ------------------------------ Date: 21 Apr 91 18:03:26 GMT From: noao!asuvax!cs.utexas.edu!usc!jarthur!petunia!csuchico.edu!ekrimen@arizona.edu (Ed Krimen) Subject: Atari Portfolio users! To: Info-Atari16@naucse.cse.nau.edu In article <9104210421.AA14688@cwns5.INS.CWRU.Edu> aa399@cleveland.Freenet.Edu writes: > > >I know this is an Atari ST Board but I don't think there is a board >specifically for the Portfolio on Usenet. > Check out comp.sys.handhelds. -- Ed Krimen ............................................... ||| Video Production Major, California State University, Chico ||| INTERNET: ekrimen@ecst.csuchico.edu FREENET: al661 / | \ SysOp, Fuji BBS: 916-894-1261 FIDONET: 1:119/4.0 ------------------------------ Date: 21 Apr 91 20:14:52 GMT From: noao!asuvax!cs.utexas.edu!sdd.hp.com!mips!daver!dlb!netcom!seitz@arizona.edu (Matthew Seitz) Subject: atari user mag To: Info-Atari16@naucse.cse.nau.edu I also liked the new Atari User magazine. However, I'm not sure I'd recommend a subscription yet. This is intended as a free distribution magazine, so it should be available at no cost at your local Atari dealer. It is also being distributed through newsstands at $1.00 per issue, cheaper than the subscription price. Also, while this first issue is well-written, informative, and timely, it is their first issue. I'd like to see if they can keep up the quality before sending off for a subscription. Especially since their is no price savings for subscribing. I imagine it will continue to be good, since it is put out by the same folks who published the excellent ST JOURNAL. In short, if spending $15 bucks is no big deal to you, and you'd like to have the magazine mailed to you, go for it. Otherwise, try picking it up over the counter. You may find that you don't care for it, or may be able to pick it up for free. -- Matthew Seitz Note new address: seitz@netcom.com ------------------------------ Date: 21 Apr 91 16:29:32 GMT From: noao!asuvax!cs.utexas.edu!swrinde!zaphod.mps.ohio-state.edu!rpi!uupsi!sunic!isg ate!krafla!adamd@arizona.edu (Adam David) Subject: British systems To: Info-Atari16@naucse.cse.nau.edu In <12556@uhccux.uhcc.Hawaii.Edu> kiki@uhunix1.uhcc.Hawaii.Edu writes: >Thanks for the corrections! Something does not seem clear though; I can under- >stand Sinclair naming their machines ZX 81 and Spectrum, but... Sam Coupe(?!) This sounds like the 256k spectrum 'compatible' that Miles Gordon Technology might even still be making. >+The sinclair QL (the name is NOT Quantum QL) where fare ahead from >+all other compters in it's days. Ok it was not as great succes! but there >+is still about 100.000 users around the world. 8 years later!!! That's certainly not failure, even if only meagre success. The OS design is beautiful and still being advanced today. >640x400/480 graphics (4 colors) Not so. The QL has 512*256 (4 colour) or 256*256 (8 colour + flashing). 68000 and 68020 (with optional FPU) 'compatibles' exist, and prototypes must have been built with higher screen resolutions. The Thor XVI (was manufactured in Denmark) has a 2-layer design with a seperate I/O processor to reduce CPU load while communicating beyond the CPU bus. This gives a marked improvement in throughput on such a multiprocessing environment. >Some detractions of the QL are the marginal design (must be kept cool), non- >standard keyboard, archaic tape drive and limited memory expansion. Support >is hard to find in the U.S., and declining, so you get what you pay for it. For D.I.Y. types: There is a redesigned circuit board and kit/plans for a QL compatible, available from QUANTA, a worldwide QL user group based in U.K. with membership around 5,000 to 10,000 people. The main improvements are a built-in floppy disk interface and a keyboard interface to connect up standard PC-type keyboards, maybe also mouse and parallel ports. As far as I know, the kit is available to members only. The QUANTA newsletter is full of good quality material, also lots of special offers to members. The QL is far from dead. [exit QL mode before I get flamed] >Maybe not TOS, but TAOS? Good move! Let's see it, Atari. -- Adam David. (adamd@rhi.hi.is) ------------------------------ Date: 22 Apr 91 08:37:04 GMT From: noao!asuvax!cs.utexas.edu!sdd.hp.com!caen!uwm.edu!spool.mu.edu!cs.umn.edu!uc!sh amash!timbuk!marc@arizona.edu (Marc Bouron) Subject: Can GCC treat printer like file? To: Info-Atari16@naucse.cse.nau.edu In article <1991Apr19.200801.26887@ux1.cso.uiuc.edu>, timothyg@ncsa.uiuc.edu (Timothy Gallivan) writes: |> |> Hi, here is a question for a real C guru. |> |> Does anyone know if gcc can treat the printer like a file? That is, |> obtain a file descriptor for the printer (fd=fopen(stdprn,..), or |> something like that), and then write to it using fwrite(...,fd) or |> putc(fd). I am aware of the TOS print routines, but I am trying to |> port some MSDOS code which treats the printer like a file. The port |> will be easier if I cam mimic this in gcc. |> There is a standard filename called `PRN:' or `LST:' that you should be able to use just like any other filename. TOS recognises this filename and directs the output to the printer. For example, you would write fopen("LST:","w"). You'll need to check yourself which one works... one is standard TOS - the other was a Lattice special. [M][a][r][c] ################################################################################ # # marc@sequoia.cray.com # . . # # Marc CR Bouron # M.Bouron@cray.co.uk (ARPA) # _|\ /|_ # # Cray Research (UK) Ltd. # M.Bouron@crayuk.uucp (DOMAIN) # (_|_V_|_) # # +44 344 485971 x2208 # M.Bouron@uk.co.cray (JANET) # | | # # # ...!ukc!crayuk!M.Bouron (UUCP) # # ################################################################################ ------------------------------ Date: 21 Apr 91 20:48:28 GMT From: noao!asuvax!cs.utexas.edu!wuarchive!zaphod.mps.ohio-state.edu!sol.ctr.columbia. edu!emory!gatech!usenet.ins.cwru.edu!ysub!psuvm!krr102@arizona.edu Subject: EZTest Test Maker To: Info-Atari16@naucse.cse.nau.edu Attention all!!! Especially teachers, and faculty. Fed up with writing test s by hand?? Or just find it too difficult to organize a test with a common wor d processor?? Well your prayers have been answered. EZTest is a Test Maker th at can make tests in any format (T/F, Mult Choice, and more). Many many extra features make this program a must for anyone who needs to write tests. EZTest is VERY user friendly and is real easy to use. For further information contact the following address, and tell 'em Mark sent ya. EZTest HQ c/o Walter Lukow 1006 E Fariview St. Allentown, PA 18103 ------------------------------ Date: 21 Apr 91 21:51:18 GMT From: noao!asuvax!cs.utexas.edu!usc!jarthur!petunia!csuchico.edu!ekrimen@arizona.edu (Ed Krimen) Subject: Files sent to atari.archive To: Info-Atari16@naucse.cse.nau.edu These files were sent to atari.archive. 141987 Apr 21 14:10 atari.lzh - An old ST demo, from Atari Corp. I think. 67769 Apr 21 14:11 bbs0404.lzh - MiniBBS, dated 04-04-91 45155 Apr 21 14:12 cocktail.lzh - Cocktail recipes 15671 Apr 21 14:12 fplanet.lzh - Fractal planet generator. 183962 Apr 21 14:09 gods.lzh - Playable demo of a game with good graphics. 4914 Apr 21 14:12 leonard.lzh - By John Eidsvoog at Codehead, it replaces bombs with profile of Leonard Tramiel. Read docs for full info. 170208 Apr 21 14:09 moonshin.prg - Playable demo of a racing game. 121444 Apr 21 14:11 ms2demo.lzh - Mastersound II Demo. Includes STE support. 95415 Apr 21 14:11 st_tour.lzh - Another nostaglic ST demo. This one should be bundled with every ST. Don't put ST Basic on the language disk; put this. 24113 Apr 21 14:12 trackst.lzh - Noisetracker module player for the ST. Includes hard drive support. 24336 Apr 21 14:12 trackste.lzh - Same as trackst.lzh, but with STE support. 112014 Apr 21 14:11 turrican.tos - Playable demo of Turrican II. Thanks to Lars-Erik Osterud for MiniBBS and TrackST/STe. -- Ed Krimen ............................................... ||| Video Production Major, California State University, Chico ||| INTERNET: ekrimen@ecst.csuchico.edu FREENET: al661 / | \ SysOp, Fuji BBS: 916-894-1261 FIDONET: 1:119/4.0 ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 21 Apr 91 20:01:50 WET DST From: Mr I C Mccall Subject: Hard disk bootblock viruses To: Info-Atari16@naucse.cse.nau.edu Someone asked whether or not it was impossible for an ST to get a bootblock style virues on a hard drive - well, I believe it is. I believe this due to the fact that just about every hard drive has it's own driver in order to make the hard disk autoboot, and each bootsector is different. To my mind, then, the only way you could get a bootblock virus is if it attacted a specific make of hard drive, eg. a Supra virus, and ICD virus etc.. I don't know whether all that is actually RIGHT, of course, but it sounds good to me! Ian McCall (csd015@uk.ac.lancs.cent1) ------------------------------ Date: 21 Apr 91 19:29:06 GMT From: noao!asuvax!cs.utexas.edu!swrinde!zaphod.mps.ohio-state.edu!wuarchive!uwm.edu!o gicse!unicorn!henson!n8742883@arizona.edu (Perry Pederson) Subject: Help needed with TOS 1.4 and TDI's Modula-2 To: Info-Atari16@naucse.cse.nau.edu I have found an apparent 'bug' with TDI's Modula-2 and TOS 1.4, and was wondering if anyone out there in net-land could give some advice. I upgraded to TOS 1.4 last summer, and never did much Modula-2 programming as I did not have a need to. However, I am now taking an intensive programming class with Modula, and it would be very helpful if I could access the language at home. I found out early that the ramdisk that comes with TDI's M-2 doesn't work very well with TOS 1.4-- after installing it, it crashes the computer (4 bombs) any time I switch disks in the A: drive and hit the escape key. I went around the problem by using a ramdisk in a desk accessory that I downloaded from atari.archive. So far so good. After doing some programming and compiling, I had some errors in my file, which was saved by the compiler in a file with the extension ".ERM". The .ERM file contains a list of columns, rows, and error numbers where the errors have occurred. TDI's Modula-2 editor is _supposed_ to load up this file when editing the source code and show the errors on the screen, along with english descriptors. Unfortunately, it doesn't. It loads up the file to be edited as per normal, but acts as if the .ERM file doesn't exist. This makes debugging very, very hard to do as I would have to get a hardcopy of the .ERM file, move the cursor around manually to the row/column coordiantes, and then look in a book to get a translation of the error number. On a practical level, this is too time consuming to be worthwhile-- especially with the large programming assignments I will soon be receiving. I have copied the editor and compiler to the A: drive and recompiled my module to see if there was still a problem with the ram disk accessory, but have received the same results. I have disabled all accessories (except the ramdisk accessory), and all items in my AUTO folder to be sure there was nothing "clogging" up the editor. Since TDI's ramdisk had a problem with TOS 1.4, I am assuming that the editor's problem is also with TOS 1.4. I am thus left with two options: 1) Get a patch/fix for this problem. Anyone have an idea/suggestion? 2) Reinstall my old TOS 1.0 chips. (GROAN!) I hate to do it, but the class is so programming intesive and my (working) Modula language is so much superior than what we have at my universitie's mainframe that I would be willing to make the scarifice. If I have to do it, could anyone please mail me the schematics on which order to place in the chips? My chips are labelled as such: 7K2 A6, 6M4 A7, 6M3 A4, 7K3 B4, 6M3 6(B?) 6M3 A6. Thanks a *lot* to anyone who can help me! Perry Pederson ------------------------------ Date: 21 Apr 91 19:12:38 GMT From: noao!asuvax!cs.utexas.edu!swrinde!zaphod.mps.ohio-state.edu!think.com!mintaka!b loom-beacon!eru!kth.se!sunic!mcsun!hp4nl!star.cs.vu.nl!hvaalde@arizona.edu (Aalderen van Harold) Subject: Megafile 60 noisy startup/ shutdown To: Info-Atari16@naucse.cse.nau.edu csbrod@immd4.informatik.uni-erlangen.de (Claus Brod) writes: >geert@ahds.UUCP (Geert W.T. Jonkheer CCS/TS) writes: >>When I start up or shut down my megafile 60 it always makes and has >>made a cracking/ noisy sound. After it has startup it doesn't make >>this sound no longer, and works just fine. >The sound is from autoparking the heads during shutdown and releasing >them during startup. Perfectly normal. >---------------------------------------------------------------------- Do all megafile 60 drives have autopark? I own one and never noticed it I use the ship program every time I shut down my computer How can I find out if my disk autoparks? Harold van Aalderen (hvaalde@cs.vu.nl) ------------------------------ Date: 22 Apr 91 11:35:24 GMT From: noao!asuvax!cs.utexas.edu!swrinde!zaphod.mps.ohio-state.edu!sol.ctr.columbia.ed u!emory!gatech!usenet.ins.cwru.edu!ysub!psuvm!dbngmd13!dmswwu1c!onm07@arizona.e du (Julian F. Reschke) Subject: Okami Shell - NOT with VI, NO ARGV/xARG support! To: Info-Atari16@naucse.cse.nau.edu All these things will be possible in the next Mupfel version (which will have a 99% bourne shell compatible script language, main difference to sh: it will be able to cope with 8-bit characters). ------------------------------ Date: 21 Apr 91 20:35:03 GMT From: IFI.UIO.NO!larserio@ucbvax.berkeley.edu (LarsErikOsterud) Subject: STE Demo / Demo Party To: Info-Atari16@naucse.cse.nau.edu Sound demo for STE and MEGA STE (by Karl Anders 0ygard) ------------------------------------------------------- This demo is packed with LHARC and MSA disk packer (included) Disk is auto-booting and needs STE and COLOR monitor to run. It's the very best STE demo and sound I have ever heard !!!! ------------------------------------------------------------- The very newest version of ESION XLI is also on this disk... GREAT DEMO PARTY IN THIS SUMMER ------------------------------- If you want to come to our great ST DEMO-PARTY in Norway this summer then PLEASE TELL ME and I'll post you invitation and maps (in Degas format). The greatest demo coders from both Sweden, Norway and lots of European groups will be there !! Don't miss your change to meet those great demo programmers. Greetings to all ST-users from Norway...... Lars-Erik / ABK-BBS +47 2132659 / ____ ______ ________________________ Osterud / larserio@ifi.uio.no / /___ / The norwegian ST __________/ ______________________/ ____/ / Klubben, user association ------------------------------ Date: 22 Apr 91 02:37:26 GMT From: noao!asuvax!cs.utexas.edu!usc!jarthur!petunia!csuchico.edu!ekrimen@arizona.edu (Ed Krimen) Subject: STE Demo / Demo Party To: Info-Atari16@naucse.cse.nau.edu Keywords: In article larserio@ifi.uio.no writes: >Sound demo for STE and MEGA STE (by Karl Anders 0ygard) >------------------------------------------------------- >This demo is packed with LHARC and MSA disk packer (included) >Disk is auto-booting and needs STE and COLOR monitor to run. >It's the very best STE demo and sound I have ever heard !!!! >------------------------------------------------------------- >The very newest version of ESION XLI is also on this disk... > > > Lars, send it to me. I'll send it to atari.archive. Hey, and if you got anymore stuff, send it to me too. I'll send them to a.a also. >GREAT DEMO PARTY IN THIS SUMMER >------------------------------- >If you want to come to our great ST DEMO-PARTY in Norway this >summer then PLEASE TELL ME and I'll post you invitation and >maps (in Degas format). The greatest demo coders from both >Sweden, Norway and lots of European groups will be there !! >Don't miss your change to meet those great demo programmers. > Hey, I'll be there! Just kidding.... ;~) -- Ed Krimen ............................................... ||| Video Production Major, California State University, Chico ||| INTERNET: ekrimen@ecst.csuchico.edu FREENET: al661 / | \ SysOp, Fuji BBS: 916-894-1261 FIDONET: 1:119/4.0 ------------------------------ Date: 22 Apr 91 14:00:16 GMT From: noao!asuvax!cs.utexas.edu!know!login@arizona.edu (Marc A. Lombardo) Subject: The Atari SIG on the Freenet! To: Info-Atari16@naucse.cse.nau.edu I thought all of you may be interested in logging on to the Cleveland Freenet. It has undergone some big changes in the past weeks, and I thought I would post a message written by one of the SIGops of the Atari SIG to usenet, so all of you could try it out. The Atari SIG is one of the largest on the system, it has several different message forums. : A "Remodeled" Atari S.I.G. Opens By now many of you have heard of the Cleveland Freenet, or more specifically the Atari S.I.G. on the Cleveland Freenet. For those who haven't, the Cleveland Freenet is an experimental computer system providing free public community telecomputing. Basically, it's a lot like a public library of the future. Many of these systems are popping up all over the country. Don't be surprised if one pops up in your neighborhood in the future. Anyways, upon logging onto the Freenet one comes across the hundreds of Special Interest Groups on the Freenet ranging from a culinary and gaming SIGs to a Veterinarian, Dental, and Medical information dispensories. Another area is the Computer Corner which consists of many computer SIGs. The Atari SIG is one of the largest computer sigs here and is growing everyday. Recently the Atari SIG has undergone a significant face-lift. All the regular areas are intact including its news sections, user group newsletter, online magazine sections, general as well as specific computer discussion boards (8 bit, 16/32 bit, Lynx, Portfolio), and our weekly Sunday night multi-chat conference. The conference starts at 8pm EST sharp and is on channel "+Ataricon". What the staff at the Atari SIG has added, has given the Atari SIG the potential to cover all grounds of Atari and its related products. The most noticeable addition to the Atari SIG is the Programming and Development Forum. This forum is intended to be used by developers, professional programmers, and Atari hackers (the old definition of "hacker") as a means to share ideas, help each other out, and find out the latest technical information on Atari's products. This board is ran by newly acquired SIG Operator, Peter Haller, a professional programmer who is running developer sections on hardware and software development, programming, MIDI applications development, Graphics Design, plus many other sections that can definitely become a programmer and developer's dream come true! Last, but definitely not least, the Atari SIG has a restructured Product Info and Support Board and a new Special Applications Board. The Support Board includes a vast library of support lists. These lists range anywhere from phone numbers of Atari dealers and producers, to software reviews for 8 bit, 16/32 bit, Lynx, and Portfolio software. To sum it all up this area covers what's out there, who makes it, and how to get it for all Atari products. The Special Applications Board is just starting out. Currently there is an area for users of MIDI on the ST. MIDI users are encouraged to use this as a means to discuss MIDI related topics. This section is expected to expand in the future. Accessing the Atari SIG has never been easier. One can access it via Internet by telenet'ing to 129.22.8.75 or "Freenet-in-b.cwru.edu" or by calling (216) 368-3888 300/1200/2400 bps. Once on the system, a user can apply for an account application and logon as a visitor. Once here, simply type "Go Atari" to get to the Atari SIG. A visitor can go anywhere on the Freenet and can read anything. They can't post messages until they get their permanent accounts, however. For additional information on obtaining access to Freenet write to myself via the e-mail addresses above or by writing the SIG at its US mail address: The Atari SIG P.O. Box 21815 Cleveland, OH 44121 USA Lastly, a freenet application is available in the mail by writing a request to the above address if you rather not download it from Freenet. The Atari SIG is ready to serve the thousands of Atarians throughout the world. We look forward to seeing you all real soon! Remember the staff of the Atari SIG are volunteering their time for no pay and the Cleveland Freenet, as well as the Atari S.I.G., is a non-profit organization existing for the free exchange of information. -- Mark Leair Atari SIG Public Relations Internet e-mail: aa338@Cleveland.Freenet.edu CIS e-mail : internet>aa338@Cleveland.Freenet.edu : -- Marc A. Lombardo User Address:aa400@cleveland.freenet.edu /-\-/-\-/-\-/-\-/-\-/-\-/-\-/-\-/--/-\-/-\-/-\-/-\-/-\-/-\-/-\-/-\- Atari ST, MIDI, Music ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 21 Apr 91 19:57:53 WET DST From: Mr I C Mccall Subject: VKiller 3.81 To: Info-Atari16@naucse.cse.nau.edu Someone recently said that VKiller is up to version 3.81 now. I've only got up to 3.11, so where can I get this new version from? Also, as an afterthought, does anyone know if the hard drive in the Mega STE is just an MFM drive being controlled by a SCSI interface, or whether it's true SCSI? If it's just MFM, then when it's finally released in the UK (anyone from Atari listening out there? Hello? Earth calling Atari...please come in, Atari...) I can upgrade the Mega 1 to a better standard than the Mega 2 for less. I know Canada has released a Mega 1, so does someone over there know anything about this? Thanks for any info, Ian McCall (csd015@uk.ac.lancs.cent1) ------------------------------ End of Info-Atari16 Digest ******************************