Info-Atari16 Digest Sat, 20 Apr 91 Volume 91 : Issue 222 Today's Topics: .SEQ Viewer: ANIMATE4 (2 msgs) atari user mag BBS Programs Cubase vs. Omega for ST??? demo's wanted Hard Disk "Gatekeeper" hard drivin II Looking for a good spreadsheet program! Macintosh emulators for sale MEGA => MEGA STE Board? Megafile 60 noisy startup/ shutdown Multigem availability New gnustuff from Bammi Nroff for the ST? PD C compiler? quicktos Ultima III MIDI Ultima VI which demos? Zmodem on VAX... Zoo won't extract folders Welcome to the Info-Atari16 Digest. The configuration for the automatic cross-posting to/from Usenet is getting closer, but still getting thrashed out. Please send notifications about broken digests or bogus messages to Info-Atari16-Request@NAUCSE.CSE.NAU.EDU. Please send requests for un/subscription and other administrivia to Info-Atari16-Request, *NOT* Info-Atari16. Requests that go to the list instead of the moderators are likely to be lost or ignored. If you want to unsubscribe, and you're receiving the digest indirectly from someplace (usually a BITNET host) that redistributes it, please contact the redistributor, not us. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: 19 Apr 91 20:03:46 GMT From: noao!ncar!elroy.jpl.nasa.gov!swrinde!zaphod.mps.ohio-state.edu!van-bc!ubc-cs!al berta!herald.usask.ca!ccu.umanitoba.ca!umochock@arizona.edu (Russell Ochocki) Subject: .SEQ Viewer: ANIMATE4 To: Info-Atari16@naucse.cse.nau.edu I'm looking for a program that views .SEQ files. A fellow replyed to my previous post any suggested a program called ANIMATE4. I checked atari.archive and didn't find it there. Does anyone know where I might obtain this program from? Thanks. -- | | \/ Russell Ochocki, University of Manitoba | _/\_ Winnipeg, Manitoba, Canada (umochock@ccu.umanitoba.ca) | ------------------------------ Date: 20 Apr 91 04:14:56 GMT From: noao!ncar!elroy.jpl.nasa.gov!swrinde!zaphod.mps.ohio-state.edu!sol.ctr.columbia .edu!ucselx!petunia!csuchico.edu!ekrimen@arizona.edu (Ed Krimen) Subject: .SEQ Viewer: ANIMATE4 To: Info-Atari16@naucse.cse.nau.edu In article <1991Apr19.200346.23279@ccu.umanitoba.ca> umochock@ccu.umanitoba.ca (Russell Ochocki) writes: >I'm looking for a program that views .SEQ files. A fellow replyed to my >previous post any suggested a program called ANIMATE4. > >I checked atari.archive and didn't find it there. Does anyone know where I >might obtain this program from? If that fellow was me, I think I said to look for ANIMATE (without the 4) as well as ANIMATE4. (I could have been in a daze however. :~) In any case, I just downloaded the file and double-checked to make sure I still wasn't in that daze, y'know from staring at a computer screen for hours. The file is ANIMATE.LZH and can be found in atari/graphics at atari.archive.umich.edu. The file contains ANIMATE4.PRG and ANIMATE4.DOC. -- Ed Krimen ............................................... ||| Video Production Major, California State University, Chico ||| INTERNET: ekrimen@ecst.csuchico.edu FREENET: al661 / | \ SysOp, Fuji BBS: 916-894-1261 FIDONET: 1:119/4.0 ------------------------------ Date: 20 Apr 91 03:53:13 GMT From: noao!ncar!elroy.jpl.nasa.gov!swrinde!zaphod.mps.ohio-state.edu!sol.ctr.columbia .edu!ucselx!petunia!csuchico.edu!ekrimen@arizona.edu (Ed Krimen) Subject: To: Info-Atari16@naucse.cse.nau.edu In article <1991Apr18.121843.9103@umiami.ir.miami.edu> dlk0ms9s@umiami.ir.miami.edu writes: > > Does anyone out there user the ACER Multisynch Monitor on thier ST? I >am considering purchasing one and selling off my SC1224. Or does anyone >use any other multisynch monitor that will runn all three resolutions? I've seen the ACER on an ST and I thought it was pretty bad; not even worth considering. You'd be better off with an Atari monochrome and color monitor. There are other multisyncs which are better. When I was looking for multisyncs, I compiled a bunch of info about them. You can find this info at atari.archive under the filename multsync.lzh. I have an NEC 3D, but there are other multisyncs which are comparible. There's certain guidelines the multisync must adhere to in order to work on the ST in all modes. -- Ed Krimen ............................................... ||| Video Production Major, California State University, Chico ||| INTERNET: ekrimen@ecst.csuchico.edu FREENET: al661 / | \ SysOp, Fuji BBS: 916-894-1261 FIDONET: 1:119/4.0 ------------------------------ Date: 20 Apr 91 09:36:28 GMT From: noao!ncar!elroy.jpl.nasa.gov!sdd.hp.com!caen!sol.ctr.columbia.edu!ucselx!crash! pro-odyssey.cts.com!chuckie@arizona.edu (Chuck Schul) Subject: atari user mag To: Info-Atari16@naucse.cse.nau.edu anybody get it yet.it is great if you have not they have 1 yr subscription for $15 it is published monthly.call or write to Atari user 113 w.College St. Covina Ca 91723 818-332-0372 prices are for the us i think call for overseas price. check it out it is good and alot of good info for all atari 8 bit,tt,st.lynx... ---- ProLine: chuckie@pro-odyssey Internet: chuckie@pro-odyssey.cts.com UUCP: crash!pro-odyssey!chuckie ARPA: crash!pro-odyssey!chuckie@nosc.mil ------------------------------ Date: 19 Apr 91 23:45:01 GMT From: maverick.ksu.ksu.edu!unlinfo.unl.edu!hoss!greg@rutgers.rutgers.edu (Lig Lury Jr.) Subject: BBS Programs To: Info-Atari16@naucse.cse.nau.edu root@prk.UUCP (Phillip Keen) writes: >I am looking into getting a dedicated machine, and I named my options, >because my options are the cheapest around town here. I am most likely going >to go with the Atari 8-bit because I like how well BBS Express Pro supports >ANSI graphics. See, all three types of systems (Atari 8-bit, Atari ST and >Apple ][x cost right around the same amount here in town with Apple ][x being >the most expensive, the Atari ST being the next higher priced, and the >Atari 8-bit being the lowest). However, I suffer the consequences with the >Atari 8-bit systems, and that is I would have to be buying ALL used equipment. >If I were at least able to purchase Apple ][x or Atari ST systems, I would >be able to purchase it all new. So, I don't know which route I should go. >See, I am happy with most everything I see in operation, so it makes decisions >hard on me. This is why I brought the conversation to such a huge network >community, to kind of help me decide which route to go. There are several choices though for the Apple // series. Proline gets lots of raves it seems. GBBS "Pro" is nice, and you're not restricted to using AppleSoft BASIC. (It's nice to get away from line numbers once in awhile.) Its language (ACOS) is similar to BASIC, but is more structured. METAL though is a rather new Apple BBS language, has lots of the features of the ACOS language, but adds a lot more. I'm still catching up with the documentation that came with the disks, and that by no means is the entire manual. The packaged program Future Visions is nice, comes ready for networking, and is easily editable by any text editor from Freewriter to ProTERM to AppleWorks, and even editable ONLINE (as is ACOS). Its only problem right now is that it is so new that it lacks some drivers, namely printer drivers and support for some modems, like my DataLink 2400 internal. It has a lot going for it though, including some of the features others have mentioned that Proline has. (Sorry guys, didn't know it would run on a non-GS.) I believe you can also use ANSI with it, and several other emulations. >---- >uunet!nuchat!xcluud!prk!root | PRK Consulting +1 713 941 5467 [data] | >prkeen@nuchat.sccsi.com | Phillip Keen | >prkeen@xcluud.sccsi.com | 2705 Martin | >root@prk | Pasadena, TX 77502-5724 | -- /// ____ \\\ "It says, `Golgafrincham Ark Fleet, Ship B, Hold 7, Telephone | |/ / \ \| | Sanitizer, Second Class,' and a serial number." "A telephone \\_(\____/)_// sanitizer? A dead telephone sanitizer?" "Best greg \_\\\/ hoss.unl.edu kind." "But what's he doing here?" "Not a lot." ------------------------------ Date: 20 Apr 91 06:01:13 GMT From: noao!ncar!elroy.jpl.nasa.gov!midiline.UUCP!peter@arizona.edu (Xorcist) Subject: Cubase vs. Omega for ST??? To: Info-Atari16@naucse.cse.nau.edu X-OR is NOT a multitasking tool with OMEGA as is CUBASE's MIDI MANAGER. Although, OMEGA, I feel, is better then CUBASE. I've used both and CUBASE is a lot buggier then OMEGA and very sluggish. It's like working in jello. OMEGA is fast and direct. The only way to utilize XOR and OMEGA is to have 2 ATARI's. I'm going to try that soon. PS s ------------------------------ Date: 20 Apr 91 09:36:22 GMT From: noao!ncar!elroy.jpl.nasa.gov!sdd.hp.com!caen!sol.ctr.columbia.edu!ucselx!crash! pro-odyssey.cts.com!chuckie@arizona.edu (Chuck Schul) Subject: demo's wanted To: Info-Atari16@naucse.cse.nau.edu any demo's like union demo 2 etc...i want em please send me you r number and i will send you some money for the disk and postage for them.i know no one here to help me with it i buy my pd etc..so i need help.help a poor atarian lonely guy thanks ---- ProLine: chuckie@pro-odyssey Internet: chuckie@pro-odyssey.cts.com UUCP: crash!pro-odyssey!chuckie ARPA: crash!pro-odyssey!chuckie@nosc.mil ------------------------------ Date: 20 Apr 91 04:03:24 GMT From: noao!ncar!elroy.jpl.nasa.gov!swrinde!zaphod.mps.ohio-state.edu!sol.ctr.columbia .edu!ucselx!petunia!csuchico.edu!ekrimen@arizona.edu (Ed Krimen) Subject: Hard Disk "Gatekeeper" To: Info-Atari16@naucse.cse.nau.edu In article <1991Apr19.203011.5337@riacs.edu> glennd@athena.arc.nasa.gov (Glenn Deardorff - GDP) writes: >I've heard of a utility that warns you about unauthorized access >attempts to your hard disk (like with viruses, etc.). Does anyone know >what this is called and if its in the Atari archive sites? Check out HOSPITAL, AZT or AZTA, VKILL381 (Virus Killer 3.81). These are virus checker programs, each are a little different in their functions. I don't know about one that checks for general unauthorized access (other than for viruses), but there are ones that will lock out a user from accessing a drive. One is the shareware version of Quick Lock (which is now a part of the commercial Quick Tools) and there's also a desk accessory by Tim Purves I believe called Protector or something, which does the same as Quick Lock. On a related note, I've heard that it's difficult or 'impossible' to get a virus on an ST hard disk, like the floppy boot sector type, because of the way the ST and hard drive communicate or something. Is this true? -- Ed Krimen ............................................... ||| Video Production Major, California State University, Chico ||| INTERNET: ekrimen@ecst.csuchico.edu FREENET: al661 / | \ SysOp, Fuji BBS: 916-894-1261 FIDONET: 1:119/4.0 ------------------------------ Date: 20 Apr 91 09:36:31 GMT From: noao!ncar!elroy.jpl.nasa.gov!sdd.hp.com!caen!sol.ctr.columbia.edu!ucselx!crash! pro-odyssey.cts.com!chuckie@arizona.edu (Chuck Schul) Subject: hard drivin II To: Info-Atari16@naucse.cse.nau.edu anybody play the 2nd game yet? ---- ProLine: chuckie@pro-odyssey Internet: chuckie@pro-odyssey.cts.com UUCP: crash!pro-odyssey!chuckie ARPA: crash!pro-odyssey!chuckie@nosc.mil ------------------------------ Date: 19 Apr 91 08:56:29 GMT From: bloom-beacon!eru!hagbard!sunic!mcsun!corton!laas!ralph@ucbvax.berkeley.edu (Ralph P. Sobek) Subject: Looking for a good spreadsheet program! To: Info-Atari16@naucse.cse.nau.edu In article <1991Apr19.001108.7898@mailer.cc.fsu.edu> boyd@nu.cs.fsu.edu (Mickey Boyd) writes: | | I understand Opus has a cult following. It is a shareware product, demo is | available from atari.archive. I hear a lot about opus, but I still can't get charts to work. Why does one need valid printer fonts just to see charts on the screen? -- Ralph P. Sobek Disclaimer: The above ruminations are my own. ralph@laas.fr Addresses are ordered by importance. ralph@laas.uucp, or ...!uunet!laas!ralph If all else fails, try: sobek@eclair.Berkeley.EDU =============================================================================== Proud owner of a Mega 4 ST. Wishing it was a Mega STe! :-| ------------------------------ Date: 20 Apr 91 00:29:38 GMT From: csus.edu!beach.csulb.edu!stevela@decwrl.dec.com (Steve La) Subject: Macintosh emulators for sale To: Info-Atari16@naucse.cse.nau.edu I have two Macintosh emulators (complete package) for sale: 1. Spectre 128 - Genuine Apple Macintosh 128K ROMs - Spectre 128 Manual - Spectre software version 2.65 - Transverter Manual - Transverter software version 4.21 - and some other system disks in Spectre format to get you started 2. MagicSac+ and Translator-One device - Genuine Apple Macintosh 64K ROMs - Built-in clock chip on the cart - MagicSac+ manual - MagicSac+ software - Translator-One device (allows ST drive to read Mac disks directly) - Translator-One manual, all necessary cables - and some other system disks in MagicSac format to get you started I am asking $275 (including shipping) or best offer for the whole package. Send me email if you are interested. -Steve ____ _ _ // // _//_ // Steve La ((__ // ___ _ ___ // __ Network Manager )) // //__) // / //__) // ____) stevela@csulb.edu //___// //_/ //__ \\_/ //__ //___/ ((__/_ (213) 985-4750 ______________________________________________________________________ Calstate Univ. Long Beach, 1250 Bellflower Blvd. Long Beach, CA 90840 ------------------------------ Date: 19 Apr 91 09:10:56 GMT From: noao!ncar!gatech!bloom-beacon!eru!hagbard!sunic!mcsun!corton!laas!ralph@arizona .edu (Ralph P. Sobek) Subject: MEGA => MEGA STE Board? To: Info-Atari16@naucse.cse.nau.edu In article <1991Apr5.000503.8678@umiami.ir.miami.edu> dlk0ms9s@umiami.ir.miami.edu writes: | | I have heard that Atari Canada has a bridgeboard for the MEGA | computers to turn them into a MEGA STE. I also am interested! Hey you guys in Canada, any info? Atari Canada, are you listening? Thanx to all (note my signature), -- Ralph P. Sobek Disclaimer: The above ruminations are my own. ralph@laas.fr Addresses are ordered by importance. ralph@laas.uucp, or ...!uunet!laas!ralph If all else fails, try: sobek@eclair.Berkeley.EDU =============================================================================== Proud owner of a Mega 4 ST. Wishing it was a Mega STe! :-| ------------------------------ Date: 19 Apr 91 07:21:20 GMT From: bloom-beacon!eru!hagbard!sunic!mcsun!hp4nl!ahds!geert@ucbvax.berkeley.edu (Geert W.T. Jonkheer CCS/TS) Subject: Megafile 60 noisy startup/ shutdown To: Info-Atari16@naucse.cse.nau.edu When I start up or shut down my megafile 60 it always makes and has made a cracking/ noisy sound. After it has startup it doesn't make this sound no longer, and works just fine. I wonder if anyone else has this cracking sound with their megafiles. Perhaps, can anyone tell me what makes this sound? Is it normal? Thanks in advance. Geert. --------------------------------------------------------------------- UUCP : ..!hp4nl!ahds!geert Geert Jonkheer Albert Heijn B.V. The Netherlands. --------------------------------------------------------------------- ------------------------------ Date: 19 Apr 91 20:34:17 GMT From: haven!cs.wvu.wvnet.edu!cerc.wvu.wvnet.edu!tygart!ms@purdue.edu (Mark Starvaggi) Subject: Multigem availability To: Info-Atari16@naucse.cse.nau.edu A while back someone posted a message about a software product called Multigem. They said it was available in Germany. Is it available in the U.S. and if so, where.? Any info would be appreciated. Thanks!! Mark Starvaggi (ms@cerc.wvu.wvnet.edu) ------------------------------ Date: 20 Apr 91 00:52:16 GMT From: noao!ncar!elroy.jpl.nasa.gov!sdd.hp.com!caen!umich!terminator!terminator.cc.umi ch.edu!weiner@arizona.edu (Jeff Weiner) Subject: New gnustuff from Bammi To: Info-Atari16@naucse.cse.nau.edu Here's a listing of the new gcc stuff that Jwahar Bammi has sent me (actually Roy, but hey ...) -rw-rw-r-- 1 weiner 258073 Apr 5 19:35 curses.zoo -rw-rw-r-- 1 weiner 316306 Apr 9 16:17 flex.zoo -rw-rw-r-- 1 weiner 31312 Apr 5 20:46 gas138.zoo -rw-rw-r-- 1 weiner 189510 Apr 6 13:28 gemlib.zoo -rw-r--r-- 1 weiner 108388 Apr 19 20:44 include.zoo -rw-r--r-- 1 weiner 344110 Apr 19 20:44 lib.zoo -rw-r--r-- 1 weiner 301745 Apr 19 20:45 libsrc.zoo -rw-r--r-- 1 weiner 140067 Apr 17 22:42 pmlsrc.zoo -rw-rw-r-- 1 weiner 204716 Apr 5 20:04 util.zoo The gcc 139 binaries do indeed have a corrupted file. We're attempting to fix it as we speak. Relax a while, and quit mailing me about it. All of the above is available from the bart folks) Have a swell day, weienr -- Jeff Weiner weiner@terminator.cc.umich.edu Jeff_Weiner@ub.cc.umich.edu Mail Dennis_Devine@ub.cc.umich.edu and ask if he'd like to be the pope Atari.archive.umich.edu Caretaker||194M and climbin'|| "So like take off eh?" ------------------------------ Date: 20 Apr 91 04:41:06 GMT From: noao!ncar!elroy.jpl.nasa.gov!swrinde!mips!spool.mu.edu!news.nd.edu!mentor.cc.pu rdue.edu!burnett@arizona.edu (Andy Burnett) Subject: Nroff for the ST? To: Info-Atari16@naucse.cse.nau.edu Does it exist? If so, where? -- &y Burnett | burnett@mentor.cc.purdue.edu ------------------------------ Date: 20 Apr 91 06:26:27 GMT From: noao!ncar!elroy.jpl.nasa.gov!swrinde!cs.utexas.edu!know!uucp@arizona.edu (Marc A. Lombardo) Subject: PD C compiler? To: Info-Atari16@naucse.cse.nau.edu Is there a public domain/shareware C editor/complier available for the ST? If possible, I would like to get it via FTP through the atari.archive. Also, is there a pd assembler for the ST? (I would like to have a dissassebler too..) Also, if you are an assembly guru, and could give me a little help with assembly (or C) please mail me. I could use a little help once in a while, maybe some sample pieces of code, etc.. Thanks in advance. -- Marc A. Lombardo User Address:aa400 /-\-/-\-/-\-/-\-/-\-/-\-/-\-/-\-/--/-\-/-\-/-\-/-\-/-\-/-\-/-\-/-\- Atari ST, MIDI, Music ------------------------------ Date: 20 Apr 91 09:36:30 GMT From: noao!ncar!elroy.jpl.nasa.gov!sdd.hp.com!caen!sol.ctr.columbia.edu!ucselx!crash! pro-odyssey.cts.com!chuckie@arizona.edu (Chuck Schul) Subject: quicktos To: Info-Atari16@naucse.cse.nau.edu is Quicktos out there or is it just vaporware.it is supposed to dump tos on a disk.anybody know how to do it or where i can find quicktos? ---- ProLine: chuckie@pro-odyssey Internet: chuckie@pro-odyssey.cts.com UUCP: crash!pro-odyssey!chuckie ARPA: crash!pro-odyssey!chuckie@nosc.mil ------------------------------ Date: 19 Apr 91 15:24:30 GMT From: zodiac!borkowsky@rutgers.rutgers.edu Subject: Ultima III MIDI To: Info-Atari16@naucse.cse.nau.edu (To Whom it may Concern: Sorry about my last message, but it's not MY fault...I'm netted through the crumbiest editor in existence...) Now, about MIDI sound in Ultima III, it is only on one channel (not like King's Quest V, or so), but even that one channel is better than the squeaky sound of the monitor speaker...Plus, you can change the sound by using another preset. (Ultima VI has full MIDI support on the IBM, so it should be even easier for full MIDI on an ST...) ------------------------------ Date: 19 Apr 91 13:18:17 GMT From: zodiac!borkowsky@rutgers.rutgers.edu Subject: Ultima VI To: Info-Atari16@naucse.cse.nau.edu In article <1991Apr17.155514.26324@santra.uucp>, s37837k@saha.hut.fi (Jari Lehto) writes: > In article <798.280b03b0@zodiac.rutgers.edu> borkowsky@zodiac.rutgers.edu writes: >>Ultima VI: Will it ever live for the Atari ST? Does anybody know if >>a) Origin is planning to produce it for the Atari ST >>and b) Will Origin produce it for the ST? > > I understood that Lord British had problems in finding someone to port it > to ST. Hope he has someone now... > >>I'm not really much of a gamer at all, but, hey, who can pass up Origin? >>(I don't understand why Ultima V didn't have MIDI sound...Ultima III did...) > > Ultima III did? How it was activated, for which instruments & settings? > > Jartsu > * * > * Nothing yet, but I'll keep on scanning... * > * ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ * ------------------------------ Date: 20 Apr 91 01:24:45 GMT From: noao!ncar!elroy.jpl.nasa.gov!swrinde!zaphod.mps.ohio-state.edu!ub!acsu.buffalo. edu@arizona.edu (john c chu) Subject: which demos? To: Info-Atari16@naucse.cse.nau.edu Thinking about it, I realize that this is a ridiculous question, but just in case I'm wrong... Are there any demos on atari.archive.umich.edu that will run on a 512K ST with a monochrome monitor? (Upgrading hopefully will be in the works...) Please replay via E-mail. Thanks john chu@acsu.buffalo.edu ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 20 Apr 91 17:40 EDT From: Subject: Zmodem on VAX... To: INFO-ATARI16@naucse.cse.nau.edu Hello-- I'm trying to get Zmodem working on our VAX system here, as (I hope) a faster alternative to KERMIT. I've got things set up at my end--XYZ.PRG and shell--but the SZ.EXE program on the VAX doesn't seem to want to work. I've got it "installed" all right, using the := convention; but when I try to run it, I get a vax error message saying "Image header descriptor length is invalid." Does this sound familiar to anyone? And is it something I can work around, or is it a problem in the .EXE file? Any help or advice would be much appreciated (probably best sent directly to me by Email, since this isn't really a VAX group!)... Thanks in advance-- Michael Johnston WJOHNSTON@COLGATEU.BITNET ------------------------------ Date: 20 Apr 91 04:49:28 GMT From: cs.yale.edu!fischer-michael@yale.arpa (Michael Fischer) Subject: Zoo won't extract folders To: Info-Atari16@naucse.cse.nau.edu In article <91107.154606JJL101@psuvm.psu.edu> JJL101@psuvm.psu.edu (J.J. Lehett) writes: > > The only thing I can get zoo to do is -extract. I cannot get it to use >any of the expert commands... it just gives me that bad command screen. > Is there something that I am missing? Yes. Use: zoo 'x//.' file.zoo The quotes are needed for many shells to protect the slashes; they are not passed to zoo. -- ================================================== | Michael Fischer | ================================================== ------------------------------ End of Info-Atari16 Digest ******************************