Info-Atari16 Digest Wed, 10 Apr 91 Volume 91 : Issue 203 Today's Topics: 260ST A dream come true (Well ALMOST!) Atari cpu evolution Chinese Characters on the ATARI ST? Does Lode Runner game exist for the ST? EPROM PROGRAMMER for Atari-st (2 msgs) Hard Drive Access Trouble LZH problem M-Tools, where to ftp from? MultiGEM (was Re: TT questions) (2 msgs) Notebooks: SO there! (long) smail on Atari ST (2 msgs) Terminal Emulation in Flash TeX directory under construction texdraw.lzh (was Re: A dream come true (Well ALMOST!)) TT questions Where to get FATSPEED ? Welcome to the Info-Atari16 Digest. The configuration for the automatic cross-posting to/from Usenet is getting closer, but still getting thrashed out. Please send notifications about broken digests or bogus messages to Info-Atari16-Request@NAUCSE.CSE.NAU.EDU. Please send requests for un/subscription and other administrivia to Info-Atari16-Request, *NOT* Info-Atari16. Requests that go to the list instead of the moderators are likely to be lost or ignored. If you want to unsubscribe, and you're receiving the digest indirectly from someplace (usually a BITNET host) that redistributes it, please contact the redistributor, not us. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Wed, 10 Apr 91 16:35:08 BST From: "D." Summerbell Subject: 260ST To: info-atari16@naucse.cse.nau.edu Subject: memory upgrade woes on a Mega 1 neil@cs.hw.ac.uk (Neil Forsyth) writes: Copy: Neil Forsyth neil@uk.ac.hw.cs >Yes I think Mega 1 did exist, briefly, and there was an unreleased 260ST and >even a 130ST! I also read here once of a unreleased product that somehow >escaped called a PS3000. I believe it was a SM124 like monitor with a built >in floppy drive. I guess, when combined with the old driveless 520ST, it >looked about as Mac like as an ST could get. It would look pretty swell on top >of a Mega now. The 260ST was released. I have seen and I believe. A colleague here still owns one and it is sitting on his desk right now. Except for the badge it looks just like an early 520ST with an external power supply and floppy. Of course it also originally ran with TOS loaded into RAM from disc. I am willing to act as a go-between for rich collectors. CORRECTION: I am willing to act as a go-between for VERY rich collectors Dennis Summerbell (d-summer@nimr.mrc.ac.uk) ------------------------------ Date: 10 Apr 91 14:21:41 GMT From: math.fu-berlin.de!fauern!unido!rwthinf!cip-s07!wolfram@uunet.uu.net (Wolfram Roesler) Subject: A dream come true (Well ALMOST!) To: Info-Atari16@naucse.cse.nau.edu longj@lonex.radc.af.mil (Jeffrey K. Long) writes: >Heck, this thing is so impressive, I may learn to read German just to use >it! I'm talking one very slickly done piece of graphics/TeX tool here! Well I guess it should be easier to write this program on your own than to learn German. ------------------------------ Date: 10 Apr 91 17:32:22 GMT From: noao!ncar!elroy.jpl.nasa.gov!jato!vsnyder@arizona.edu (Van Snyder) Subject: Atari cpu evolution To: Info-Atari16@naucse.cse.nau.edu In article <12371@uhccux.uhcc.Hawaii.Edu> kiki@uhunix1.uhcc.Hawaii.Edu (Jack W. Wine) writes: > >It's hard to make predictions, but it seems certain that one of the dominant >OS running on the new processors will be UNIX and the SPARC RISC was designed >to run it optimally. Also, Sun's decision to have an open architecture is >resulting in a flood of systems based on the SPARC chip set.... From an article in April Datamation, I see that Sparc International is only half-open: Their "shrink-wrap" API requires Sun-OS. The article was about the 88000. 88Open doesn't require a certain OS to be compliant. As a result, even though only 6 US vendors have picked the 88000, there are over 2000 applications available, while for the Sparc, with some 30 or so vendors using it, there are only about 2500 applications. The article praised the 88000 and 88Open on technical grounds, but mentioned that Motorola's marketing was "methodical at best." It also mentioned that Motorola has cut the 88000 price by 2/3, and that the 88010 will be out "soon". Top-of-the-line 88000 is about as fast for non-floating-point as the fastest Sparc or MIPS, but has better support for multiprocessor architectures (according to Harris, who build a multiprocessor server from it). When 88010 is available it should be substantially faster, even for floating point, than current Sparc or MIPS. That is, almost as fast as the new HP PA chips %). (57 and 76 Mips are the speeds the newest HP machines are guaranteed not to exceed. $k12 and $k20 in greyscale, diskless.) -- vsnyder@jato.Jpl.Nasa.Gov ames!elroy!jato!vsnyder vsnyder@jato.uucp ------------------------------ Date: 10 Apr 91 11:24:06 GMT From: math.fu-berlin.de!uniol!unido!utrurt!utrurt.uucp!bohn@uunet.uu.net Subject: Chinese Characters on the ATARI ST? To: Info-Atari16@naucse.cse.nau.edu Is there any OS-extension for the ATARI ST which makes it possible to display mixed Chinese and Western Text on the screen? What I am looking for is something like CCDOS or the Taiwanese 'ET'-system on DOS-machines, or Zhongwen-Talk on the Mac. As I can not receive this newsgroup regularly, PLEASE REPLY BY E-MAIL to: bohn@utrurt.uucp Thanks in advance! Hartmut Bohn Klemensstr. 13 5500 Trier Federal Republic of Germany ------------------------------ Date: 7 Apr 91 09:07:00 GMT From: noao!ncar!elroy.jpl.nasa.gov!swrinde!cs.utexas.edu!helios!zeus.tamu.edu!ieb4826 @arizona.edu (BOU-SAADA, INGRID EDMOND) Subject: Does Lode Runner game exist for the ST? To: Info-Atari16@naucse.cse.nau.edu In article <1991Apr7.032118.4860@mailer.cc.fsu.edu>, boyd@nu.cs.fsu.edu (Mickey Boyd) writes... ?In article <1991Apr3.205704.8441@unislc.uucp>, bj@unislc.uucp (Bruce Jones) writes: ?>The subject says it all. I would like to get Lode Runner for the ?>ST if it exists. If yes, does someone want to sell their copy? If ?>the answer is no are there any similar type games that you can recommend? ?> ? ?There is a great PD version from Germany called Go-Up. If it is not on ?atari.archive, I can upload it. Please let me know if it is not. It works ?on mono monitors (I don't know about color). ? I tried go-up using a mono-emulator and found that it was unplayable (too slow and jerky). However, Broderbund has released Lode-Runner for the ST through a French company called Loriceil (sp?). I played it on a friend's ST and it was a very good port. Better sound and graphics by far than the old apple II vers. It also has a level editor and a cheat mode. If you liked the old LR you should call around to some software dealers who sell imports like: COMPUTER GAMES+ (800) 443-8189 SIDELINE SOFTWARE (800) 888-9273 Good Luck Ed Bou-saada ------------------------------ Date: 10 Apr 91 11:39:17 GMT From: noao!ncar!elroy.jpl.nasa.gov!swrinde!mips!spool.mu.edu!munnari.oz.au!goanna!min yos.xx.rmit.oz.au!t821431@arizona.edu (Richard Clarkson) Subject: EPROM PROGRAMMER for Atari-st To: Info-Atari16@naucse.cse.nau.edu xx Does anybody know of a Eprom programmer for the atari st computer and where i can purchase it from...Any comments on them... ------------------------------ Date: 10 Apr 91 15:07:24 GMT From: taco!eos.ncsu.edu!twmanino@mcnc.org (TONY W MANINO) Subject: EPROM PROGRAMMER for Atari-st To: Info-Atari16@naucse.cse.nau.edu In article <1991Apr10.113917.24085@minyos.xx.rmit.oz.au>, t821431@minyos.xx.rmit.oz.au (Richard Clarkson) writes: |> Does anybody know of a Eprom programmer for the atari st computer and where |> i can purchase it from...Any comments on them... Michtron had one of these... I saw it a couple of years ago at the Atarifest in Fairfax, Virginia. I don't know if it's still available. I not real sure, but I think it was selling for Tony NCSU Project EOS twmanino@eos.ncsu.edu ------------------------------ Date: 10 Apr 91 17:09:50 GMT From: noao!asuvax!ncar!elroy.jpl.nasa.gov!jato!vsnyder@arizona.edu (Van Snyder) Subject: Hard Drive Access Trouble To: Info-Atari16@naucse.cse.nau.edu In article <1991Apr06.071210.20559@afit.af.mil> bhodges@afit.af.mil (Bill Hodges) writes: >I've got a Supra 20M drive and after I work for a while if I try to access >files the BUSY light stays on or flickers and I get the box about "Damaged >Data". If I shut the drive off for a while it acts right again. Before >it gets any worse, what's the best way to find the problem and where should >I start looking? > I had this kind of problem with a BMS-100 -> CMI 6426 drive combo. I made things a little better by ensuring adequate cooling, and by ensuring the power supply voltages were right on. Then I backed up everything and low- level formatted again. This helped for about a year, but the CMI eventually died. Hope your Supra isn't goin' south. -- vsnyder@jato.Jpl.Nasa.Gov ames!elroy!jato!vsnyder vsnyder@jato.uucp ------------------------------ Date: 10 Apr 91 16:17:50 GMT From: noao!ncar!zaphod.mps.ohio-state.edu!rphroy!caen!uwm.edu!bionet!hayes.ims.alaska .edu!milton!alexd@arizona.edu (Alex Danilchik) Subject: LZH problem To: Info-Atari16@naucse.cse.nau.edu Ocassionally i come across a file that un-lharcing with the arcsh35.prg yields "no file found".. un-lharcing in gulam yields the same error.. Could somone diagnose the problem? Thanks gunnar alexd@milton.u.washington.edu ------------------------------ Date: 10 Apr 91 13:02:42 GMT From: noao!ncar!elroy.jpl.nasa.gov!mahendo!wlbr!lonex.radc.af.mil!longj@arizona.edu (Jeffrey K. Long) Subject: M-Tools, where to ftp from? To: Info-Atari16@naucse.cse.nau.edu After listening to all the talk of 3.5 floppies on Sparcs writing ST compatible disks, I now find myself wishing I had paid attention! We just got another Sparc in the lab, and this one has a 3.5 floppy drive. SO...... where can I get the latest, greatest version of M-Tools, and what should I look for to avoid the problems I have seen posted in the past? Thanks in advance for any help! -- ----------------------------------------------------------------------- Capt Jeff Long Rome Air Development Center longj@lonex.radc.af.mil Network Design Laboratory jlong@cassiopeia.radc.af.mil (315)330-7751 or (DSN)587-7751 ------------------------------ Date: 10 Apr 91 12:08:13 GMT From: noao!ncar!elroy.jpl.nasa.gov!usc!rpi!bu.edu!snorkelwacker.mit.edu!ira.uka.de!fa uern!faui43.informatik.uni-erlangen.de!csbrod@arizona.edu (Claus Brod) Subject: MultiGEM (was Re: TT questions) To: Info-Atari16@naucse.cse.nau.edu ekrimen@ecst.csuchico.edu (Ed Krimen) writes: >>Try MultiGEM from Maxon in Germany. It's a MultiFinder-clone for the >>ST which will soon be released for the TT, too. >What else can you tell us about MultiGEM? Price? Is it compatible with >TOS 1.4 and STe? Any plans for a North American distribution? Please >provide us with Maxon's address. MAXON Computer Industriestrasse 26 D-6236 Eschborn Germany Warning concerning everything I tell you about MultiGEM: I know the programmer personally, so my views may be biased. Take them with a grain of salt 8-) MultiGEM is something like a MultiFinder clone for the ST series. I think it also runs on 1040STe and MegaSTEs, but I'm not sure. At CeBIT, it had some problems with TT fast RAM, but I didn't expect anything else for it was presented as a ST-only-product _at the moment_. MultiGEM is a small AUTO folder program (eats up 30 or 40 KB in memory) that lets you start up several applications simultaneously from the Desktop (or from GEMINI). This is done by faking the AES into thinking that those applications are in fact accessories. (Yes, this means that you can't have more than 7 applications at one time, and that you have to sacrifice ACC slots to start up applications.) The applications multitask cooperatively following the standard GEM concept of giving up control from time to time by calling the AES. All the major GEM applications work. TOS program output can be redirected to a window, so they want mess up other programs' screens, and TOS programs will even multitask this way! If you click into a program's window, its menu bar is switched on and displayed in the first line of the screen. If the program owns a desktop, this will be brought to the front, too. Alternatively, you can switch applications by clicking into the Desk menu where you find the names of the currently running applications. Some programs won't multitask properly. One of them is SIGNUM. If you start it up and click into its "window", windows from the desktop beneath will show up and mess up the display. This is because SIGNUM doesn't do proper GEM output. In these cases, you can force MultiGEM into singletasking mode. Some other applications like to eat up the complete memory available. MultiGEM can fool them during startup so that they will leave enough room for other programs. MultiGEM has been presented at CeBIT in March. It is not yet a real commercial product as I understand. I heard rumors that it might be available RSN, but I can't say for sure. There will be a special TT version, but I don't have any details on it. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Claus Brod, Am Felsenkeller 2, Things. Take. Time. D-8772 Marktheidenfeld, West Germany (Piet Hein) csbrod@medusa.informatik.uni-erlangen.de Claus Brod@wue.maus.de ---------------------------------------------------------------------- ------------------------------ Date: 10 Apr 91 10:38:51 GMT From: noao!ncar!elroy.jpl.nasa.gov!sdd.hp.com!spool.mu.edu!snorkelwacker.mit.edu!bloo m-beacon!eru!hagbard!sunic!ugle.unit.no!lise.unit.no!stigvi@arizona.edu (Stig Vidar Hovland) Subject: MultiGEM (was Re: TT questions) To: Info-Atari16@naucse.cse.nau.edu In article <1991Apr09.180854.7134@ecst.csuchico.edu>, ekrimen@ecst.csuchico.edu (Ed Krimen) writes: |> |> What else can you tell us about MultiGEM? Price? Is it compatible with |> TOS 1.4 and STe? Any plans for a North American distribution? Please |> provide us with Maxon's address. Price is DM 159,- and it is supposed to work on tos >= 1.2 ------------------------------ Date: 10 Apr 91 17:10:00 GMT From: noao!ncar!elroy.jpl.nasa.gov!sdd.hp.com!spool.mu.edu!snorkelwacker.mit.edu!thun der.mcrcim.mcgill.edu!bonnie.concordia.ca!ccu.umanitoba.ca!bright@arizona.edu (Bob Bright) Subject: Notebooks: SO there! (long) To: Info-Atari16@naucse.cse.nau.edu [This is a bit tacky, but I'm going to do it anyway, because of the obnoxious tone of the article I'm following up.] I've been carrying on an email discussion with Mark Choi re: his position w.r.t. the forthcoming Atari notebooks. In a letter of April 3 I suggested that he had something different in mind by "notebook computer" than TRH did, and that a good deal of ill will could have been avoided if this had been made clear at the outset: mc>> I do not mean these luggables when I refer to these machines, I mean mc>>what I stated, around the size of a piece of paper, and weighing less mc>>than 7 pounds, including battery, which lasts about 3 hours. bb> ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ bb> bb>Yes, I know this is what you meant. This is also what I was referring bb>to. "<= 7 pounds with a reasonably small footprint (lapprint?)" is bb>becoming/has become the de facto definition of "notebook computer", bb>for no very good reason other than that the editors of various PC mags bb>are enamoured with full-featured semi-portable machines, and 6-7 bb>pounds is about as light as we've currently got in this category. bb> bb>I suspect that a lot of the recent hostility between you and TRH could bb>have been nipped in the bud if it had been made clear that you were bb>relying on this definition. TRH's view, I think, is that a 7 pound bb>machine which requires lugging around an extra 3 pounds of batteries bb>in order to be useful is too heavy. This is also my view. In a letter of April 3 Mark replied: mc>Actually, the definition of a notebook computer is one that is the size mc>of a notebook. In specific, the machines about which I was speaking, mc>were smaller than the Atari, about the same weight, I would guess (in mc>the 3 pound range), and still included the "extra" features, with a mc>batterlife of 3-4 hours. To which I replied (April 4): bb>I don't suppose you'd actually care to name some of these machines bb>about which you were speaking? Smaller than 8-1/2 x 11, less than 1" bb>thick, about 3 pounds, with built-in harddrive, 1.44 meg floppy, and bb>maybe some other stuff (a VGA port, I guess; not much of a space/ bb>weight consideration, but a definite power consideration as TRH bb>noted). I think you've got a pretty good imagination. Sounds like a bb>nice machine, but it doesn't exist; the only machines that currently bb>come anywhere close are in the 7 pound range. Mark replied (April 5): mc> I will get you a list of several machines that fit the description mc>after I go home. I haven't received any further email from Mark. Which brings us to the subject of today's post. In article <0c0CSim00UhBI0qUIv@andrew.cmu.edu> mc4c+@andrew.cmu.edu (Mark Choi) writes: >For all those out there who are convinced that TRH is the Word when it >comes to the notebook market, and that Atari knows what the hell is >going on on the other side of their closed eyelids, please read on: > >Zeos Notebook PC >12mhz 286, 2"x12"x10", 1 meg RAM, backlit VGA, and ext. vid. port, 20 >Meg HDD, 1.44 meg floppy, $1995. > >Compaq LTE >20MHz 386, 7 I/O ports, 30 /60 meg HDD, 3 meg RAM, 1.44 meg floppy > >Dataworld NS 320SX >386sx, VGA with ext. vid., 2 meg RAM, 20 meg drive > >Others include the Northgate slimline, and the Austin sx, with standard >2 meg RAM. These machines have stated weights of under 7 lbs, including >the battery charger. I doubt the notebook ST wieght includes the >charger. Without the charger, they weigh in less than 6 lbs. Granted >they weigh a bit more than the ST notebok, but do NOT tell me that they A *bit* more?! The Atari notebooks are supposed to weigh about 1 kg. The machines you list weigh more than *twice* as much as the Ataris, even without the charger, and are more than *double* the volume (the Ataris are supposed to be about 1" thick). And it doesn't stop there. These machines have a battery life of 2-3 hours with "average" use, dropping to about 1.5 hours with moderate disk access. So they're practically useless as true portables unless you carry along an extra battery pack or two along with the charger, rounding things out at about *3-4 times* the weight and *triple* the volume of the Ataris. And these machines are state-of-the-art for so- called DOS "notebooks". (BTW, I don't suppose you'd care to tell other net readers how much the Compaq LTE will lighten their wallets.) >are figments of my imagination, or that there are no machines out there >with both a hard drive and a floppy, as the guru TRH has stated. There I told you in email that you and TRH are working with different conceptions of "notebook". Your definition is approximately: "Not much bigger/heavier than the abridged version of the Oxford English Dictionary." His is: "Not much bigger/heavier than a notebook." For TRH's definition, he's right; there are currently no machines that fit the latter description with both a hard drive and standard 1.44 meg floppy, even when you don't include the charger and extra batteries. >are others that are lighter, and are closer to the ST notebook, but I >have better things to do than to reread piles of magazines just to >vindicate my position against the cries of the ignorant. I think I'll [Translation: "I was wrong; I haven't been able to locate any machines which come anywhere close to Atari's size and weight specs with all of the features that I was asking for."] C'mon Mark, put up or shut up. If you have better things to do than re-read piles of magazines in an effort to vindicate your position, at least you could do us the courtesy of finding something better to do than hanging out your own ignorance for public display. TRH was right, I'm afraid: You don't know what-in-the-fuck-you're-talking- about. Nothing wrong with that; all of us are ignorant about lots of things, and the net is an ideal forum for learning from others and thus curing our ignorance. You, however, had the unconscionably bad taste to publicly insult both Atari Corp. and TRH based on your ignorance. (You do recall, don't you, the post in which you suggested that TRH's machines had been deliberately crippled in an effort to sell more STacys? It was the one that prompted his original vituperous reply.) And you continue to do so, in the most obnoxious way possible. The gracious thing to do, I think, would be to apologize. Barring that, I suggest that you desist lest you make a bigger fool of yourself than you already have. Regards, BBB -- Bob Bright Dept. of Philosophy University of Manitoba Winnipeg, Man R3T 2N2 (204) 474-9105 ------------------------------ Date: 9 Apr 91 18:42:53 GMT From: noao!ncar!elroy.jpl.nasa.gov!usc!zaphod.mps.ohio-state.edu!van-bc!ubc-cs!albert a!ncc!isagate!darius@arizona.edu (Darius S. Naqvi) Subject: smail on Atari ST To: Info-Atari16@naucse.cse.nau.edu In article steve@thelake.mn.org (Steve Yelvington) writes: >[In article <10713@mirsa.inria.fr>, > gdo@mirsa.inria.fr (Guillaume Doumenc) writes ... ] > >> I've read a few months ago that there was a port of smail for the Atari on >> the way. Is it finished now, and if yes is it available somewhere ? > >I'm using a version of smail that has been, in my opinion, finished for >quite a long time. However, I didn't port it. The people who did the port >have not released it for distribution, so I can't pass it around. Sorry. > Is this the Smail that we all know and love that runs on UNIX boxes, i.e. the mail delivery agent? If it is, then it's covered by the GNU copyleft, so any version should be freely distributable. I'd be interested in using this as the mail delivery agent when running MINIX, as soon as I get UUCP for MINIX working properly. -- Darius S. Naqvi mail:darius@edm.isac.ca ISA Corp. uucp: Edmonton, Alberta, Canada phone:(403) 420-8081 ------------------------------ Date: 10 Apr 91 16:15:06 GMT From: noao!ncar!elroy.jpl.nasa.gov!swrinde!mips!news.cs.indiana.edu!msi.umn.edu!cs.um n.edu!thelake!steve@arizona.edu (Steve Yelvington) Subject: smail on Atari ST To: Info-Atari16@naucse.cse.nau.edu [In article <1991Apr09.184253.5423@edm.isac.CA>, darius@edm.isac.CA (Darius S. Naqvi) writes ... ] > Is this the Smail that we all know and love that runs on UNIX boxes, > i.e. the mail delivery agent? If it is, then it's covered by the GNU > copyleft, so any version should be freely distributable. The program is Smail 2.5, originally by Christopher Seiwald. It accepts data from standard input, processes the headers as necessary, looks up a mailpath, and pipes the result to either a local delivery agent (lmail) or to uux for execution of rmail on a remote machine. The Smail source code that I have bears neither copyright nor copyleft. Smail 3.x, which is a different program entirely, may be covered by the GNU agreement. I don't know. Smail is written with many assumptions about the nature of the underlying operating system that are not valid for TOS. Several people had to invent some clever work-arounds to compensate for the single-tasking nature of TOS, cover for some rather obscure bugs in Atari's operating system, and resolve other system dependencies. Some of those work-arounds involve altering the Smail source code, but most of them involve writing a C library to supplement dLibs. That library hasn't been released, and since it's not mine, I can't be the one to release it. Somebody else has mentioned a version of Smail for Rodney's Mercury UUCP. That might be worth looking into. There's also an MS-DOS port of Smail (ftp wuarchive.wustl.edu) that might be useful for people interested in whipping up their own TOS Smail. (Actually, after using Smail for quite some time, I'm not convinced that it's an appropriate tool for the average ST-based mail system, which is likely to be a leaf node.) > I'd be interested in using this as the mail delivery agent when > running MINIX, as soon as I get UUCP for MINIX working properly. I think that for Minix you should compile the standard Unix Smail. ---- Steve Yelvington / P. O. Box 38 / Marine on St. Croix, MN 55047 USA INTERNET: steve@thelake.mn.org UUCP: plains!umn-cs!thelake!steve GEnie: S.YELVINGTO2 Delphi: YELVINGTON ------------------------------ Date: 10 Apr 91 15:23:29 GMT From: unhd.unh.edu!oz!pyr579@uunet.uu.net (Technoid) Subject: Terminal Emulation in Flash To: Info-Atari16@naucse.cse.nau.edu Hello netters, I use Flash ver 1.6 and ANSI to emulate VT100 ( ALT-M ). However, I would like to emulate something more along the lines of VT220 or higher. Can the translation table be modified to do this? If so has anyone done this already? VT100 is fine for my purposes, but it would be nice to change if someone knew how. Thanks, Stephan -- \/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/ pyr579@oz.plymouth.edu Stephan R. Cleaves /\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\ ------------------------------ Date: 10 Apr 91 13:47:01 GMT From: noao!ncar!elroy.jpl.nasa.gov!usc!samsung!umich!terminator!terminator.cc.umich.e du!weiner@arizona.edu (Jeff Weiner) Subject: TeX directory under construction To: Info-Atari16@naucse.cse.nau.edu The tex directory here at atari.archive.umich.edu is experiencing a bit of re-construction. It'll make things a bit more organized and easier to find. You'll probably have one hell of a hard time getting bart to send anything from this directory, cuz it'll be movin' around quite rapidly. Re-modeling should be finished by Friday, April 12, 1991 somtime in the morning, but who really knows for sure..... Thanks and have a better day than those unfortuante souls who haven't crisped yet, weiner -- Jeff Weiner weiner@terminator.cc.umich.edu Jeff_Weiner@ub.cc.umich.edu Mail Dennis_Devine@ub.cc.umich.edu and ask if he'd like a White Castle Atari.archive.umich.edu Caretaker||194M and climbin'|| "So like take off eh?" ------------------------------ Date: 10 Apr 91 09:16:51 GMT From: noao!ncar!elroy.jpl.nasa.gov!usc!snorkelwacker.mit.edu!bloom-beacon!eru!hagbard !sunic!mcsun!corton!laas!ralph@arizona.edu (Ralph P. Sobek) Subject: texdraw.lzh (was Re: A dream come true (Well ALMOST!)) To: Info-Atari16@naucse.cse.nau.edu Speaking of texdraw.lzh, it is also available from atari.archive. The copy I downloaded would test out well, all the members would test okay, but the archive as a whole would finish with a CRC error. Lharc on Unix and Lharc version 1.02, 1.13, and 1.13.8 on my ST would all error abort. Only lharc 1.13 on a PC accepted this file correctly! Are the ST/Unix version of lharc still bugged? -- Ralph P. Sobek Disclaimer: The above ruminations are my own. ralph@laas.fr Addresses are ordered by importance. ralph@laas.uucp, or ...!uunet!laas!ralph If all else fails, try: sobek@eclair.Berkeley.EDU =============================================================================== Proud new owner of a Mega 4 ST. What should I do with my *small* SH204 drive? ------------------------------ Date: 10 Apr 91 16:51:48 GMT From: noao!ncar!elroy.jpl.nasa.gov!sdd.hp.com!think.com!snorkelwacker.mit.edu!ira.uka .de!fauern!faui43.informatik.uni-erlangen.de!csbrod@arizona.edu (Claus Brod) Subject: TT questions To: Info-Atari16@naucse.cse.nau.edu ggreenbe@rodan.acs.syr.edu (Gerald Greenberg) writes: >>Try MultiGEM from Maxon in Germany. It's a MultiFinder-clone for the >>ST which will soon be released for the TT, too. > > Does anybody know where to get this in the US? It's just been released here in Germany. As far as I know, there's no US distributor for it yet. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Claus Brod, Am Felsenkeller 2, Things. Take. Time. D-8772 Marktheidenfeld, West Germany (Piet Hein) csbrod@medusa.informatik.uni-erlangen.de Claus Brod@wue.maus.de ---------------------------------------------------------------------- ------------------------------ Date: 10 Apr 91 10:15:13 GMT From: noao!ncar!elroy.jpl.nasa.gov!sdd.hp.com!spool.mu.edu!snorkelwacker.mit.edu!bloo m-beacon!eru!hagbard!sunic!mcsun!hp4nl!ahds!dick@arizona.edu (Dick Heijne CCS/TS) Subject: Where to get FATSPEED ? To: Info-Atari16@naucse.cse.nau.edu Lots of replies on a previous posting in this group, concerning problems I have with my megafile 44 harddisk pointed out that I have to migrate from TOS 1.2 to TOS 1.4, or use FATSPEED.PRG instead. Since I prefer trying the latter option first, I would like to know where I can get this program. Someone mailed me it should be on some usenet-accessible board. Can anyone mail me details about the full path (and type of info-server, if appropriate) ? Thanks a lot in advance everybody! Dick. ------------------------------ End of Info-Atari16 Digest ******************************