INFO-ATARI16 Digest Tue, 24 Oct 89 Volume 89 : Issue 553 Today's Topics: anybody know how to "hook" into MORE? (2 msgs) DEC RD53 hard disk on an ST? DVI to Epson Program GDOS, PP and outline fonts Leave it on or turn it off ??? MIDI advice sought MINIX for the ST ?????? Routines for sprite Sony MFP-11 3.5 drive for ST? ST in USSR TOS 1.4 AUTO bug WANTED-- used DX/TX Editor Librarian software for Atari 1040ST 2meg ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: 23 Oct 89 17:55:58 GMT From: hp-pcd!hplsla!andyc@hplabs.hp.com (Andy Cassino) Subject: anybody know how to "hook" into MORE? i am not enamoured of the "more" command. i have my own version that is more to my liking (ie. i can search forward/backward, back up a page, choose another file, ...). does anybody know of a way to call a user defined piece of code instead of the routine that gets called when i doubleclick on a file and choose "show"? ---------- I have a way to do this, but it's pretty kludgy. First, let me state I am doing this is in Neodesk 2.04; I haven't tried it in the TOS desktop. Even in Neodesk, I don't think this is supposed to work. So here's what I did. I first installed my preferred "more" as an application for two file suffixes. The problem is, that's not enough, I need about a dozen suffixes. So, I edited the neodesk.inf file and found the line that installed the application. I duplicated this line as much as I needed immediately below the existing line, and changed the suffixes in the duplicate lines. Well, what do you know, but it worked - have my preferred more installed for a dozen suffixes! I've been doing this for a couple of months, and nothing has gotten upset about it yet. Well, I know you can *try* to do the same thing to the TOS desktop.inf file, but I have no idea if it will work. Disclaimer: The opinions expressed herein are those solely of the author, who has no pecuniary interest in the companies mentioned. Copyright (c) 1989 by Andrew Cassino. Permission for distribution on USENET hereby granted. %%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%% % Andy Cassino % % uucp: hplabs!hplsla!andyc domain: andyc%hplsla@hplabs.hp.com % % Hewlett-Packard Lake Stevens Instrument Division % % 8600 Soper Hill Road Everett, WA 98205-1298 % % (206) 335-2211 % %%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%% ------------------------------ Date: 24 Oct 89 01:35:49 GMT From: jarvis.csri.toronto.edu!utgpu!watmath!watcgl!wsflinn@rutgers.edu (Scott Flinn) Subject: anybody know how to "hook" into MORE? In article <1135@electro.UUCP> ignac@electro.UUCP (Ignac Kolenko) writes: >In article <2315@hcr.UUCP> miken@hcr.UUCP (Mike Nemeth) writes: >>i am not enamoured of the "more" command. i have my own version that >>is more to my liking (ie. i can search forward/backward, back up a >>page, choose another file, ...). does anybody know of a way to call >>a user defined piece of code instead of the routine that gets called >>when i doubleclick on a file and choose "show"? or am i just fingerpainting >>with Prep H... > > >ya, this is actually easier than you most people think. simply use some sort >of desktop.inf editor (ie: QUIKINF.PRG, a fine Quick Utility) to edit >the installed applications for your machine. simply pick your favorite text >editor as the installed application, and set the application mask to be >what ever document you want to look at: [etc.] This method is mainly satisfactory, but suffers from one major drawback: the program must load from disk before it runs. I no longer have anywhere near enough memory to keep a ram disk installed, but I do have enough to store a TSR that provides a decent 'more' and print utility. The supplied 'more' utility runs directly from ROM ... can something in desktop.inf be changed to tell it to run some code from a different place? Cheers, -- Me: Scott Flinn / "If it doesn't fit, force it. Domain: wsflinn@watcgl.waterloo.edu / If it breaks, then it didn't UUCP: watmath!watcgl!wsflinn / fit anyway." ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 23 Oct 89 20:30:58 EDT From: Marcelino Bernardo Subject: DEC RD53 hard disk on an ST? Has anyone connected the mech from a DEC RD53 hard disk to an ST? The mech which holds 30MB or so, is made by Quantum an I'm told that it is ST-506 compatible. It seems to me that these drives should be adaptable to an ST using an ACSI-SCSI interface along with an Adaptek controller. Right? Recommendations would be appreciated. Regards, Marcelino Bernardo mbernar@erenj.bitnet bernardo@erevax.bitnet ------------------------------ Date: 23 Oct 89 09:32:46 GMT From: otter!gjh@hplabs.hp.com (Graham Higgins) Subject: DVI to Epson Program You really don't want to do this ... I've got an Epson-compatible printer and tried EPSDVI --- yes, it worked, but it took so long to print a page, I never printed more than that one page. It's not so much that the dog can sing in tune, it's that it can sing at all! Graham ====== ------------------------------------------------------------------ Graham Higgins | Phone: (0272) 799910 x 24060 Hewlett-Packard Labs | gray@hpl.hp.co.uk Bristol | gray%hplb.uucp@ukc.ac.uk U.K. | gray@hplb.hpl.hp.com ------------------------------------------------------------------ Disclaimer: My opinions above are exactly that, mine and opinions. ------------------------------------------------------------------ ------------------------------ Date: 22 Oct 89 22:57:26 GMT From: nis!pwcs!stag!root@UMN-CS.CS.UMN.EDU (Steve Yelvington) Subject: GDOS, PP and outline fonts [stephen@oahu.cs.ucla.edu (Stephen Whitney) writes...] > In article <89Oct20.230647edt.57387@ugw.utcs.utoronto.ca > MEGGIN@vm.epas.utoronto.ca (David Megginson) writes: > [deleted] > >>Besides, what's all this about? Apple is still developing its outline >>font system. Certainly, a Mac can output to a Postscript device which >>uses outline fonts, but so can an ST or IBM. Right now, Macs use >>raster fonts just like GDOS, except the output resolution is not as >>good on the imagewriter (I imagine). The only system I know of with >>outline fonts is the NeXT, and the __only__ full DTP package with >>outline screen fonts is still Calamus (Mac users, turn green with >>envy!!!!!). >> David Megginson, Centre for Medieval Studies, Toronto > > The big advantage that the Mac has over the ST that could be corrected by > outline screen and printer fonts is that the Mac can load and unload fonts > as needed because of its automatically ejecting floppies (Insert System > Disk). The ST loads all of its fonts when a program asks for them, but if you > need to check fonts sizes on the printer fonts, you have to load evey one of > them into memory. In addition, the Mac uses the same bitmapped fonts > (albeit in different sizes) to do printer output so you don't have two > different 12 point fonts stored in memory. Floppies? (shudder...) You mean automatically jamming floppies, don't you? It's *so* much fun digging a floppy out of a Macintosh with a paper clip. > Imagine how mnay Imagine how many fonts you could load if you just needed one > outline for each typeface! Even with a large cache, we'd win. > As David pointed out, the ST already has an excellent publishing system with outline fonts. It would be great if Ditek (the folks who publish Calamus worldwide) would spin off the screen/font management system as a module that could be employed by other programs. By the way, whatever happened to the desktop publishing program Atari Corp. was supposed to be developing using Deskset and Compugraphic technology? I've seen sample output, but I've never seen an announcement of availability. Steve Yelvington, up at the lake in Minnesota ... pwcs.StPaul.GOV!stag!thelake!steve (Usenet) ... ?playgrnd,moundst,class68?!thelake!steve (Citadel) ------------------------------ Date: 23 Oct 89 21:17:00 GMT From: inmet!hedger@uunet.uu.net Subject: Leave it on or turn it off ??? I need to know what you ST users out there do when you're not using your ST. I have some friends who advocate leaving the computer and hardisk turned on, and others who say to turn them off. What do you guys do ? ===================================================================== | | | Keith Hedger : ?...!?uunet!inmet!hedger hedger@inmet.inmet.com | | 'It is a sad, but beautiful world..........' | ===================================================================== ------------------------------ Date: 23 Oct 89 12:53:00 GMT From: inmet!hedger@uunet.uu.net Subject: MIDI advice sought Both the Atari ST and the Amiga are fine for MIDI processing, but I would recommend the Atari and heres why: 1) Built in MIDI ports. 2) Price (1040st,mono monitor = @800.00) 3) Software Availability- There is a LOT of music software available for the ST. I don't think this is true for the Amiga. I know that there has been more and more stuff appearing for the Amiga lately, but there isn't near as much music software available for it as for the ST. ===================================================================== | | | Keith Hedger : ?...!?uunet!inmet!hedger hedger@inmet.inmet.com | | 'It is a sad, but beautiful world..........' | ===================================================================== ------------------------------ Date: 23 Oct 89 21:07:00 GMT From: inmet!hedger@uunet.uu.net Subject: MINIX for the ST ?????? So, is MINIX available for the ST ? If so how can I get it? thanks in advance, ===================================================================== | | | Keith Hedger : ?...!?uunet!inmet!hedger hedger@inmet.inmet.com | | 'It is a sad, but beautiful world..........' | ===================================================================== ------------------------------ Date: 24 Oct 89 04:24:35 GMT From: pasteur!cory.Berkeley.EDU!dle@ucbvax.Berkeley.EDU (Duy Le) Subject: Routines for sprite Hi, Has anyone written routines to manipulate sprites? If so, could you please give me the source code. Your help is appreciated. Duy (dle@cory.Berkeley.EDU) ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 3 Oct 1989 09:06:28 EDT From: Marcelino Bernardo Subject: Sony MFP-11 3.5 drive for ST? I saw a very attractive price, $60, for a Sony MFP-11 3.5" floppy drives in a Jameco ad. Has anyone tried hooking one of these to an ST? The specs look good. Marcelino Bernardo mbernar@erenj.bitnet ------------------------------ Date: 24 Oct 89 03:27:41 GMT From: bgsuvax!sbrown@tut.cis.ohio-state.edu (Scott F. Brown) Subject: ST in USSR I have finally decided to throw in my two cents on this discussion. The (I believe) 1988 Atari Corporate report to the stockholders stated that the Atari was availible off the shelf in the Soviet Union. I am going down to the University Library to get the report so that I can type that section in. BTW: It may not be the 1988 stockholders report, it is probably one of the early '89 quarterly reports. I know, its vague. If you have access to Shareholders reports you may want to read them to get an idea of how much Atari does sell. - Scott F. Brown ****************************************************************************** * - Death is part of the ecosystem, that doesn't mean that you should * * enjoy it. * * * * -Scott F. Brown * * * * sbrown@andy.bgsu.edu.uucp * ****************************************************************************** ------------------------------ Date: 23 Oct 89 19:34:18 GMT From: hp-pcd!hplsla!andyc@hplabs.hp.com (Andy Cassino) Subject: TOS 1.4 AUTO bug I, too, have a Mega ST2 with TOS 1.4, and I run Neodesk 2.04 as an AUTO application. I do not use UNITERM, but I am seeing some similar sorts of things, I think, and in my comm program as well. Everything went okay in the past week since the TOS 1.4 upgrade until yesterday, when I had *5* "random" system crashes. This is a very rare problem in my experience. One crash occured when I double-clicked HDUTIL.PRG 4.1.8 - the disk access began, and whammo, address error. Three times I had address errors in Interlink (one in the middle of a 200K GENIE download). But two of these were using the buffer editor, and I have had that crash before). These three crashes were followed by subsequent crashes on cold reboot (keyboard-invoked). It took two cold reboots to get things running again. The fifth crash was when I tried to extract from a file archive. After reboot, it worked just fine. Did I mention - these were all address errors!!! I have two suspicions at this point - a hardware problem (oooh noooo!!!) or maybe I am experiencing some residual effects of having set the "fast" bit in just about everything I use. (That, in fact, is the first thing I am going to do, unset the fast bit in Neodesk, Hdutils & Interlink. I don't think I set it in arc, though I'll check.) So, I would also like to know if any of the Atari folk have a suggestion! Disclaimer: The opinions expressed herein are those solely of the author, who has no pecuniary interest in the companies mentioned. Copyright (c) 1989 by Andrew Cassino. Permission for distribution on USENET hereby granted. %%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%% % Andy Cassino % % uucp: hplabs!hplsla!andyc domain: andyc%hplsla@hplabs.hp.com % % Hewlett-Packard Lake Stevens Instrument Division % % 8600 Soper Hill Road Everett, WA 98205-1298 % % (206) 335-2211 % %%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%% ------------------------------ Date: 23 Oct 89 23:28:57 GMT From: zephyr.ens.tek.com!tektronix!sequent!tas@uunet.uu.net (Theresa Snider) Subject: WANTED-- used DX/TX Editor Librarian software for Atari 1040ST 2meg I'm posting this for a friend: Looking for software for Atari 1040ST. DX/TX Editor Librarian used and in good condition. If you know of anyone wanting to sell this software, please e-mail me, or call Michael Lewis (503) 287-1662 anytime Thanks for your help! Theresa tas@sequent.UUCP ------------------------------ End of INFO-ATARI16 Digest V89 Issue #553 *****************************************