========================================================================= INFO-ATARI16 Digest Tue, 1 May 90 Volume 90 : Issue 499 Today's Topics: Atari ST Games 4 Sale cachexxx.prg in auto folder. CRP Digitiser GCC-137 Zoo files INFO-ATARI16 Digest V90 #442 Looking for harddisk backup software Personal Finances on Atari ST512 Returned mail: Service unavailable STE TOS / TOS 1.4/1.6 etc. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: 30 Apr 90 20:52:32 GMT From: zephyr.ens.tek.com!tektronix!sequent!mntgfx!dcooley@beaver.cs.washington.edu (Doug Cooley) Subject: Atari ST Games 4 Sale Message-ID: <1990Apr30.205232.1152@mentor.com> The following is an updated repost: I've bought a house. This means that every waking moment I'm not at work involves mowing or painting or something much less fun than playing games on my Atari ST. This means that YOU, the unwary, er, buying public have a chance to pick up on these great games - all practically free! The prices given below are 25 to 30 percent of list, depending on how recent the game is and how "hot" it is on the 'Doug' game scale. I would prefer no trades, but you can always try. All games consist of original disks and docs, but I no longer have boxes or reg cards. To the best of my know- ledge, all of the games work just fine. Unless you want several of the games, add a dollar for postage per order. And, of course, all prices are fully negotiable. A 'J' indicates the game requires a joystick. An 'H' indicates that the game can be mounted on a hard drive. An 'n' indicates that the game can be played with up to n people. Dr. T's MT-32 Editor/Librarian $20 Zany Golf (miniature golf game) $ 5 4 Red Lightning (very detailed wargame) $12 2H Leisure Suit Larry I $ 9 Paperboy (arcade game) $ 9 2J Balance of Power ('86 version) $ 9 2 Marble Madness (arcade) $ 5 2 (J for 2nd) Speedball (Rollerball. Fantastic!) $10 2J (one per player) Wiz Ball (arcade style) $ 5 2J Bridge 5.0 $ 7 H Archipelagos (arcade/strategy) $ 8 Star Fleet I (strategy) $10 H Toobin' (arcade) $ 9 2 (J for 2nd) Firezone (strategy, open-ended) $ 8 2 OR: I'll take $75 for the whole bunch (non-negotiable). If you are interested in any of these games, contact me via any of the methods listed below. I will ship US First Class. Doug Cooley dcooley@pdx.MENTOR.COM work # : (503)626-7000 X7000 (8am - 5pm PST) home # : (503)692-0680 (feel free to leave a message) -- Oh yeah, the above is all my fault. Doug Cooley, Mentor Graphics Corp. E-Mail: dcooley@pdx.MENTOR.COM ------------------------------ Date: 1 May 90 03:37:14 GMT From: usc!zaphod.mps.ohio-state.edu!uwm.edu!ux1.cso.uiuc.edu!cs325ec@ucsd.edu (Gregory Lemperle-Kerr) Subject: cachexxx.prg in auto folder. Message-ID: <1990May1.033714.28456@ux1.cso.uiuc.edu> I think his problem was in making it cache90.prg rather than cache090.prg. -- Greg ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 1 May 90 15:52 GMT From: Martin Murphy Subject: CRP Digitiser Hi, Does anyone have or know of software to drive a CRP A4 Digitising Tablet? PD, Shareware or commercial would be welcome. I want to use the tablet to read points off a plot of a spectrum. Thanks, Martin Murphy HMM@UK.AC.QUB.ARM.STAR or 19457::ARVAD::HMM Armagh Observatory, College Hill, Armagh BT61 9DG, N. Ireland ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 1 May 90 7:24:17 MST From: ASQB-SEP-A HQ USAISEC Subject: GCC-137 Zoo files I tried ftping gcc-137.zoo01 through gcc-137.zoo13 from terminator. I used BINARY mode from an Intel320 acting as a DDN node on MILNET. I then downloaded them from the Intel to my ST. 01 unzooed OK until it hit tm_m68k and then it gave me a corrupt header in file and quit. When I list all the others (02 - 13) I get bad archive error messages and can't even see what's inside these files. Has anyone else experienced difficulty with these or is it just my host? All the files came through with the corre. I've tried zoo on the ST and also a PC at work although the PC version is only 1.31. Thanks for any help - I hate to have to FTP them again. Mark Rhyner asqb-sep-a@huachuca-emh2.army.mil or mrhyner%sed@huachuca-emh2.army.mil ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 1 May 90 15:45 GMT From: Martin Murphy Subject: INFO-ATARI16 Digest V90 #442 ------------------------------ Date: 1 May 90 14:09:19 GMT From: sdd.hp.com!samsung!uakari.primate.wisc.edu!dali!milton!ski2@ucsd.edu (Chris Kacoroski) Subject: Looking for harddisk backup software Message-ID: <3221@milton.acs.washington.edu> Organization: University of Washington, Seattle I am looking for a harddisk backup and restore program that will backup large files across multiple floppy disks while keeping the folder hierarchy intact. It would be nice if it could do file compression also. I am also looking for a harddisk tools package that would allow me to recover lost files and optimize the harddisk for reads or writes. I am running TOS 1.0 on a 1040ST. Thanks in advance. -- "Disclaimer: The opinions expressed above are my own..." Chris 'ski-' Kacoroski email: ski2@milton.acs.washington.edu ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 1 May 90 10:58 EST From: JOHNBARNES@ENH.NIST.GOV Subject: Personal Finances on Atari ST512 To expand on Troy Carpenter's reply to an earlier query: The current version of Phasar is 4.0. I have seen it in the Joppa price list for $US54.00. I did an extensive review and tutorial on the product in the March 1990 Current Notes. I feel that it sets the standard for this type of program and it is relatively economical. The support to date has been very good, although some may quarrel with the price of the upgrade from ver 3 to ver 4. While the new release is not an entirely new product there are extensive improvements to the user interface. This program also does a splendid job of handling taxes, budgeting, and other matters of personal finance. I suspect that an ST 512 user would find it somewhat cramped. I would encourage and 512 user, particularly one who is using a hard drive, to stuff in as much me memory as he can. He will want it for things like NeoDesk, Hotwire, UIS III, and the like, which are all essential to making operation on an ST smooth. John Barnes JOHNBARNES@ENH.NIST.GOV The opinions expressed above are personal opinions that have nothing to do with respondent's role as an employee of NIST. ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 1 May 1990 17:36:55 +0200 From: Mail Delivery Subsystem Subject: Returned mail: Service unavailable Message-ID: <9005011536.AAifi21225@ifi.uio.no> ----- Transcript of session follows ----- While talking to nac.no: >>> RCPT To: <<< 554 ... Host mgh-znmr not known within the UUCP domain 554 ... Service unavailable ----- Unsent message follows ----- Return-Path: Received: from kvart.uio.no by ifi.uio.no with SMTP id ; Tue, 1 May 1990 17:36:55 +0200 Received: by kvart.uio.no ; Tue, 1 May 1990 17:36:47 +0200 Date: Tue, 1 May 1990 17:36:42 MET DST From: LarsErikOsterud To: mike@mgh-znmr.UUCP (Mike Vevea) Subject: Re: Unix Windows In-Reply-To: Your message of 1 May 90 00:49:06 GMT Message-Id: The problem (at least mine) isn't uw, but tha lack of uw on the UNIX host computer. It has X10, X11 and Sun-Tools, but NO uw Lars-Erik / ABK-BBS +47 2132659 / ____ ______ ________________________ Osterud / larserio@ifi.uio.no / /___ / The norwegian ST __________/ ______________________/ ____/ / Klubben, user association ------------------------------ Date: 1 May 90 18:32:47 GMT From: pwp@iuvax.cs.indiana.edu (Paul Purdom) Subject: STE TOS / TOS 1.4/1.6 etc. Message-ID: <43725@iuvax.cs.indiana.edu> On all this discussion of disassembly and lack of information for nondevelopers I like the analogy to car service manuals pretty well. They don't come with the cars, but the company does need to produce them anyway. If you really want want you can order one at the same time as the car. The last time I did this they cost aabout $20.00 for a pretty big book. I am sure that you would here a lot less complaints on the net if Atari published the technical information on its computers in a well edited from at a similar cost per page. ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 1 MAY 90 16:35:47 From: WOODALLP%VAX1.COMPUTER-CENTRE.BIRMINGHAM.AC.UK@CUNYVM.CUNY.EDU Hi, sorry to post this question again, but here goes.... Is anyone using overscan, how easy is the mod, where are the details (In english), could a user please get in touch as I have some questions on compatibility etc. Does anyone have any info on the German Graphics board that will give 8??*6?? pixels on a multisynch, I have seen it advertised in ST-Computer (Feb 90) and I was wondering if anyone could comment on compatibility etc. It is the one which costs 249 DM. Thanks Phil Woodall Woodallp@uk.ac.bham.vax1 p.s. I dont speak German, I just look at the pictures ------------------------------ End of INFO-ATARI16 Digest V90 Issue #499 *****************************************