========================================================================= INFO-ATARI16 Digest Wed, 18 Apr 90 Volume 90 : Issue 456 Today's Topics: Advice to Spectre GCR owners CAN A PROGRAM'S OUTPUT TO PRINTER BE "TRAPPED" FOR EDITING ? color on mono monitor Drive Probs Gemini 1.1 Docs in English Info request on rumoured TT MOUSEKAMANIA-- how to save settings Nethack 3 for the ST One world, One CPU, One OS Proposed change to names of sources/binaries postings Spelling checkers? (PD or otherwise) TOS 1.4 info Upgrading memory and color...STE color changer anyone? UUDecode ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: 17 Apr 90 21:08:36 GMT From: att!dptg!lzsc!hcj@ucbvax.Berkeley.EDU (HC Johnson) Subject: Advice to Spectre GCR owners Message-ID: <1630@lzsc.ATT.COM> In article <11272@portia.Stanford.EDU>, zimm@portia.Stanford.EDU (Dylan Yolles) writes: > The Spectre GCR manual never makes it clear whether or not one can get > away with using the "Shutdown" menu option in Mac mode (versus just ejecting > the disks). > My advice: DON'T DO IT! I tried it *once* and now my hard drive > is garbled. (Yes, I'm using the new release of the Spectre software. Perhaps > the older software works better.) > Shutdown does a 'reset' instruction amoung other things. What probably happened is that you had the HFS filesystem on the HD in a bad state and now its damaged. This brings out a bigger caution. MAC buffers the data to the Filesystem, and 'eject' is the only way to guarantee all the info is written out. One will think that resetting the Atari is OK, because most of the time the Filesystem is being read. But, change something, and look out. In the MAC world there are several file system repair programs. Most seem to bypass enough of the MAC OS to kill Spectre also. Does anyone have a file system repair utility that will run under Spectre? How about one that runs under TOS and knows how to fix MAC partitins? Howard C. Johnson ATT Bell Labs att!lzsc!hcj hcj@lzsc.att.com ------------------------------ Date: 18 Apr 90 01:41:17 GMT From: cunixf.cc.columbia.edu!cunixd.cc.columbia.edu!ia4@rutgers.edu (Imran Anwar) Subject: CAN A PROGRAM'S OUTPUT TO PRINTER BE "TRAPPED" FOR EDITING ? Message-ID: <1990Apr18.014117.6630@cunixf.cc.columbia.edu> I have an ATARI ST program (Dr. T's KCS). The text data in the program can be printed to an ASCII or Epson printer. I have an HP Laserjet IIp. The program prints the first line of text as on an Epson but then blanks out. I need a program or DA that can "trap" the output before it goes to printer so I can edit or save it to disk. Any solutions? THanks Imran Anwar ------------------------------ Date: 16 Apr 90 08:20:05 GMT From: samsung!sol.ctr.columbia.edu!ira.uka.de!smurf!gopnbg!tmpmbx!zelator!techno@thin k.com (Frank Dahncke) Subject: color on mono monitor Message-ID: <439@zelator.UUCP> >>resolutions with gray scales. Anyone have any info on this (doc, difficulty)? >> Any help would be greatly appreciated. >> -Todd >The company's name is iks, maybe one of the European readers can leave an The adress is: iks Schoenblickstr. 7 7516 Karlsbad 7 West Germany Prices are as follows: Complete conversion of your monitor: DM 249.- Kit with all parts soldered on and german manual: DM 149.- Empty board including all parts and german manual: DM 129.- including utility software postage and packing DM 5.- *THEY* claim: 100% software compatible, industrial quality Payment from outside West Germany only via cheque By the way, they have a voice line (if you speak german :-) ): 049-07202-6793 *after* 18.00h local time Hope this helps, Techno -- techno@zelator.UUCP ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Nothing that's real is ever for free, you just have to pay for it some- time. (Al Stewart) ------------------------------ Date: 18 Apr 90 00:03:45 GMT From: mailrus!uflorida!beach.cis.ufl.edu!cr1@tut.cis.ohio-state.edu (Anubis) Subject: Drive Probs Message-ID: <22917@uflorida.cis.ufl.EDU> I'm having a small drive problem. I'm no techy or anything, but I happen to have a multimeter and went at it. Symptoms: ST either will not boot at all with the 2nd drive hooked up or will only run boot sector code and auto folder programs before it seems to have problems reading the drive. eventually it 'slow boots' to the desktop. I flipped over the st and checked 14 solder points directly under the drive port. It went something like this... 11 9 14 8 10 5 13 12 4 7 ? 1 2,6 ? The numbers coincide with the pin number. You'll notice that the two question marks do not seem to go to any of the pins, and that 2 and 6 both seem to go to the same place. Also, I could not find pin 3 anywhere. Does this look right? -- =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= * Christoper Roth * "Machines have no * InterNet : cr1@beach.cis.ufl.edu * Conscience..." =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-Post No Bills-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= ------------------------------ Date: 18 Apr 90 00:14:38 GMT From: cs.utexas.edu!usc!brutus.cs.uiuc.edu!rpi!uupsi!ncs.dnd.ca!balkwill@tut.cis.ohio -state.edu (R. J. Balkwill) Subject: Gemini 1.1 Docs in English Message-ID: <870@ncs.dnd.ca> PLEASE excuse the binary in this group - finger trouble. Was fuer ein DUMMHEIT! The two doc parts have been posted to comp.binaries.atari.st and will be available as soon as Steve Grimm has released them. --- Bob ------------------------------ Date: 17 Apr 90 20:45:51 GMT From: chinet!saj@gargoyle.uchicago.edu (Stephen Jacobs) Subject: Info request on rumoured TT Message-ID: <1990Apr17.204551.12462@chinet.chi.il.us> I don't know how reasonable this is as a possibility. What I do know is that Mark Williams Company is selling their UNIX clone, 'Coherent', for the Intel chip-based market right now, and that they have nothing fundamentally against the Atari ST market, they just don't find it big enough to make very much effort financially worthwhile. The natural question is whether there's a reasonable way to induce Mark Williams Company to do a version of Coherent which would run on both STs and TTs. If nothing else, it would be a nice development platform for both machines. At best, it might become the standard character-based UNIXoid for the TT. (If you'd trust version 1.0 of an Atari labelled UNIX more than the first ST port of Coherent, ____________...(That means fill in the blank)). The key questions are how many copies could they sell for the ST, how long would it be before Atari's UNIX (presumably with GUI) became more attractive on the TT, and (presuming that the true answers would justify a release of Coherent), how do we get the message out? Steve J. ------------------------------ Date: 18 Apr 90 00:42:16 GMT From: zaphod.mps.ohio-state.edu!rpi!brutus.cs.uiuc.edu!ux1.cso.uiuc.edu!ux1.cso.uiuc. edu!cs325ec@tut.cis.ohio-state.edu Subject: MOUSEKAMANIA-- how to save settings Message-ID: <16000058@ux1.cso.uiuc.edu> I saw the message about mousekamania at terminator and downloaded it... Kind of cute, but there are no docs. I edited the file and saw mousehi.def, mousemed.def etc. as strings, but I don't know what to stick in there to get it to autoload a mouse setting. Any help? Thanks. -- Greg ------------------------------ Date: 18 Apr 90 01:56:14 GMT From: clyde.concordia.ca!news-server.csri.toronto.edu!utgpu!watserv1!ria!uwovax!7103_ 2622@uunet.uu.net (Eric Smith) Subject: Nethack 3 for the ST Message-ID: <5760.262b90fe@uwovax.uwo.ca> In article <437@zelator.UUCP>, techno@zelator.UUCP (Frank Dahncke) writes: > Could someone PLEASE put Nethack ST V3.0 (pl7) into comp.binaries.atari.st > (again ?). I only got pl3 and have no ftp access. *Please* don't do this. Pl7 contains a number of bugs. The final version of NetHack (pl8) will be available Real Soon Now. Please be patient. -- Eric R. Smith email: Dept. of Mathematics ERSMITH@uwovax.uwo.ca University of Western Ontario ERSMITH@uwovax.bitnet London, Ont. Canada N6A 5B7 ph: (519) 661-3638 ------------------------------ Date: 17 Apr 90 14:45:54 GMT From: pacific.mps.ohio-state.edu!zaphod.mps.ohio-state.edu!sol.ctr.columbia.edu!ira.u ka.de!smurf!gopnbg!altger!stasys!fkk@tut.cis.ohio-state.edu (Frank Kaefer) Subject: One world, One CPU, One OS Message-ID: <975@stasys.sta.sub.org> demon@desire.wright.edu writes: > Reading the articles that say how alike Amiga, Atari, and Mac users > are: > It would be nice if these users could all have one unified operating > system. (Yes, there is UNIX but not everyone has 4-8 meg of ram and 80+meg > hard disks.) What does Apple have to lose by liscensing the Mac OS to > Commodore and Atari? Well, I think there are also some other OS that are worth considering. For example I'd like to mention OS-9/68000. OS-9 is a small but efficient OS, with many Unix-like features like multitasking/multiuser. And OS-9 doesn't need much memory (the Kernel has only 25680 bytes). Many Unix-utilities have been ported (if PD) or been rewritten for OS-9, and many sources from comp.sources.unix can be compiled with minor changes. So, OS-9/68k is the OS if you want to have a good multitasking OS for your 68000 CPU. To mention some programs I got running under OS-9: uucp (uupc), news, NN (newsreader), notes, nethack 3pl7, conquer, (u)larn, moria, omega etc. (I really do like playing rogue style games :) Cheers, Frank --- +--------------------------------+ Darkness all around us | Frank Kaefer | fkk@stasys.UUCP | We don't close our eyes | (Compuserve: 72427,2101) | No one's gonna ground us | (BIX: fkaefer) | We were born to fly | Starnberg, West Germany | Comin' at us no stopping +--------------------------------+ Born to amplify [Carry On - Manowar] ------------------------------ Date: 13 Apr 90 14:02:12 GMT From: cs.utexas.edu!usc!zaphod.mps.ohio-state.edu!rpi!uupsi!pinet!rdf@tut.cis.ohio-st ate.edu (Robert Feinman) Subject: Proposed change to names of sources/binaries postings Message-ID: <1990Apr13.140212.13407@pinet.aip.org> Changing name to xxx.uax would be a good idea. Makes the whole decode process much faster. -- Robert Feinman rdf@pinet.aip.org American Institute of Physics rdf@aip.bitnet ------------------------------ Date: 17 Apr 90 21:36:07 GMT From: portal!atari!apratt@apple.com (Allan Pratt) Subject: Spelling checkers? (PD or otherwise) Message-ID: <2150@atari.UUCP> I'm looking for recommendations on a spelling checker for the ST. I want a stand-alone program, not one built into a word processor. It should take an ASCII file as input and produce an output file (or redirectable standard output) consisting of the list of misspelled words, or something equally generic. If it's PD or shareware, all the better. Please reply by mail, not by posting, and I'll post a summary of replies. Thanks. ============================================ Opinions expressed above do not necessarily -- Allan Pratt, Atari Corp. reflect those of Atari Corp. or anyone else. ...ames!atari!apratt ------------------------------ Date: 17 Apr 90 23:48:39 GMT From: portal!atari!apratt@apple.com (Allan Pratt) Subject: TOS 1.4 info Message-ID: <2152@atari.UUCP> jfbruno@rodan.acs.syr.edu (John F. Bruno) writes: >Don't tell me they screwed up again!!! What if I have a volume with >10K free and I want to move a 20K file into a folder?!?! Moves (via the Gemdos call Frename) are in fact accomplished by changing directory entries, not by copying files, when the source & dest are on the same logical drive. By the way, I *live* for this kind of posting. Polite, considerate... just the sort of posting that is sure to result in a speedy, informative reply. Yup, this is the kind of news that makes me want to get to work early every day. ============================================ Opinions expressed above do not necessarily -- Allan Pratt, Atari Corp. reflect those of Atari Corp. or anyone else. ...ames!atari!apratt ------------------------------ Date: 18 Apr 90 01:20:34 GMT From: zaphod.mps.ohio-state.edu!uakari.primate.wisc.edu!uflorida!beach.cis.ufl.edu!cr 1@tut.cis.ohio-state.edu (Anubis) Subject: Upgrading memory and color...STE color changer anyone? Message-ID: <22920@uflorida.cis.ufl.EDU> Hi all, I am in the process of upgrading my memory and color on my ST using a John Russel Innovations board. It uses SIMMS, and for 25 extra dollars lets me expand to 4096 colors. I can't tell you how it works right now, because my MMU will only handle 1 meg of memory and I am waiting for another MMU to come. Needless to say, I am having some memory problems at the moment since I have 2.5 megs and my mmu insists I have 1 meg. Ramdisks tend to garble data...Revolver just refuses to work at all...does anyone else have a JRI board? To get to the point, I am curious to see if an STE color palatte accessory will work with my color upgrade. Could someone possible uuencode me one and mail it, or point me to an FTP site that has one available? I assume that such a thing is PD, of course...I can't imagine it being otherwise. Here's a question for Alan Pratt or someone else working at Atari, My local atari dealer had a real problem getting an MMU for me that could handle the extra memory. Is there a shortage of MMU's out there or is some distributor just yanking his chain? (OH , as a side note, the colors work real nice. It is compatible with Space Ace, had some nice scenes in there. Not trying to promote the product or anything, just letting you know. If anyone is interested in hearing a full report on the board, send me mail and I'll write up a detail on what I think of it...I'll even post it if there is enough response...) -- =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= * Christoper Roth * "Machines have no * InterNet : cr1@beach.cis.ufl.edu * Conscience..." =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-Post No Bills-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= ------------------------------ Date: 17 Apr 90 21:39:31 GMT From: mcsun!ukc!harrier.ukc.ac.uk!gos.ukc.ac.uk!anw1@uunet.uu.net (A.N.Walkeden) Subject: UUDecode Message-ID: <2927@gos.ukc.ac.uk> I dont know if I am missing something obvious here,but.... I have found a piece of PD software I would like, and have FTP'd it to my machine, where I find it is over 700KBytes in size. Now when I UUDecode this file it produces another output file of similar magnitude, thus there is not enough room for it on a 3.5" disk. Is there any way around this problem, can you hack the file into pieces and then somehow rejoin them later, or is the only solution to get a hard drive? Any help greatly appreciated. Adrian -- "I've seen things you people wouldn't believe. Attack ships on fire off the shoulder of Orion, I watched C beams glitter in the dark near the Tanhauser gate. All these, memories will be lost in time; like tears in rain." "Time to die." ------------------------------ End of INFO-ATARI16 Digest V90 Issue #456 *****************************************