========================================================================= INFO-ATARI16 Digest Sun, 8 Apr 90 Volume 90 : Issue 425 Today's Topics: Atari AT Gribnif: what does it MEAN? Multisync monitors, STs, and Macs My 4 Meg 1040STe (was Re: SIMMs for the STE) Nethack 3 for the ST (2 msgs) Programming events question... Turbo-C: price/availability? UniTerm (2 msgs) ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: 8 Apr 90 16:52:04 GMT From: eru!luth!sunic!mcsun!hp4nl!phigate!ehviea!leo@bloom-beacon.mit.edu (Leo de Wit) Subject: Atari AT Message-ID: <531@ehviea.ine.philips.nl> Read in this month's HCC Nieuwsbrief, a Dutch monthly for computer users: According to Jotka Computing in Ede before long (how long 8-) a 80386 emulator for the Atari ST will become available on the Dutch market. It is a German product, called Delta Modul, that will be delivered together with Dr. Dos. There will be two versions, a 1 Mb one and a 2 Mb one, with prices in the range f 2395,- to f 2849,- (Dutch guilders). Also various supplementary products have been announced, such as RAM extensions till 8 Mb and graphic cards (of which one was said to handle 16.2 million colors). Leo. ------------------------------ Date: 8 Apr 90 15:06:43 GMT From: mcgill-vision!quiche!calvin!depeche@BLOOM-BEACON.MIT.EDU (Sam Alan EZUST) Subject: Gribnif: what does it MEAN? Message-ID: <2825@calvin.cs.mcgill.ca> In article <261E6C25.10489@maccs.dcss.mcmaster.ca> johns@maccs.dcss.mcmaster.ca (Conan the Barbarian) writes: > You're absolutely right. My bubugged the girl that works the >Gribnif booth in '88 about the meaning in Gribnif, and never got an >answer. Undaunted, he tried again this year, and still got nowhere. >Excepth that the girl told him to watch M*A*S*H to find out. We were >told that this was classified information, and that only 1 person at 1 >show came up and knew what Gribnif means. I wonder if it's important. > I happen to know that guy [Richard] you are talking about - and I believe it was the show in Detroit last summer... Gribnif is actually a character in some fantasy novel, but when Richard told me what it meant, I filed it away in my head under 'useless knowledge which won't come up again' and promptly forgot it. A little note of aside: Dan Wilga was at the booth, and asked Richard what it meant - apparently HE didn't know, and when he found out, he was so grateful that he gave Richard a free copy of Neodesk!!! -- |S. Alan Ezust | depeche@calvin.cs.mcgill.ca| |McGill University School of Computer Science | Montreal, Quebec, Canada | |---------------------------------------------------------------------------| | Disclaimer: None of the above facts are mine. Neither are the opinions. | ------------------------------ Date: 08 APR 90 13:19:18 CST From: Z4648252 Subject: Multisync monitors, STs, and Macs Message-ID: <900408.13191761.023282@SFA.CP6> Hello all, Could a brave and informed soul comment on if a multisync monitor can also work on a Macintosh (with an appropriate video card, of course)? If I get a NEC 3D multisync for my ST, will it also work on a Mac? Many thanks!!! Larry Rymal: |East Texas Atari 68NNNers| ------------------------------ Date: 4 Apr 90 15:32:06 GMT From: elroy.jpl.nasa.gov!usc!zaphod.mps.ohio-state.edu!rpi!image.soe.clarkson.edu!new s@decwrl.dec.com (AAron,,,) Subject: My 4 Meg 1040STe (was Re: SIMMs for the STE) Message-ID: <1990Apr4.153206.22133@sun.soe.clarkson.edu> > With a 90 day warranty who cares? Just wait it out, and with SIMMS, > you're *much* less likely to damage your ST than with the various > kludges that are used to add memory to older STs. SIMMs should be > very easy to plug in if you are at all handy. > Yep, It was quite easy... Pop the 4 8x256K SIMMs Push the 4 8x1M SIMMs BTW, I used 2 MICRON Technology, Inc "Xceed 2MB Memory Expansion Kits" (for Mac II SE/Plus (Low Profile) They were 100ns... AAron nAAs opielask@clutx.clarkson.edu or naas17@snypotba.bitnet ------------------------------ Date: 7 Apr 90 20:11:25 GMT From: ogicse!dali!milton!cs.uoregon.edu!news@decwrl.dec.com (Wade Bell) Subject: Nethack 3 for the ST Message-ID: <1990Apr7.201125.25417@cs.uoregon.edu> Does anyone know an FTP or mail-oreder house that has Nethack 3 (pl7) for the ST? Thanks. --> Dan Quayle for President! (A stupid man for stupid times) ------------------------------ Date: 8 Apr 90 22:52:56 GMT From: xanth!xanth.cs.odu.edu!scott@g.ms.uky.edu (Scott Yelich) Subject: Nethack 3 for the ST Message-ID: > Does anyone know an FTP or mail-oreder house that has Nethack 3 (pl7) > for the ST? > Thanks. ftp terminator.cc.umich.edu WHAT WOULD WE DO WITHOUT TERMINATOR?! Now, I have played it as far as starting a game... it seems to want all of one meg and will simple crash otherwise... of course, these are personal experiences and my system configureation changes daily... etc etc. Good luck! (it is much better than nh2!) -- ----------------------------------------------------------------------------- Scott D. Yelich scott@cs.odu.edu [128.82.8.1] After he pushed me off the cliff, he asked me, as I fell, ``Why'd you jump?'' ----------------------------------------------------------------------------- ------------------------------ Date: 6 Apr 90 21:33:03 GMT From: mips!zaphod.mps.ohio-state.edu!rpi!image.soe.clarkson.edu!news@apple.com (AAron,,,) Subject: Programming events question... Message-ID: <1990Apr6.213303.696@sun.soe.clarkson.edu> A friend of mine and I are writing a very simple drawing program with Mark Williams C. Our problems aren't in implementing the drawing tools (well, at least not yet...) at this point. The difficulties we are having are because we want the menu bar on the screen, and available for use while the user is using the drawing 'tools' on the rest of the screen. So, we are using evnt_multi to detect events... We want an active menu bar, with a blank screen, and be able to detect menu bar events, as well as detecting EITHER mouse buttons. We have fumbled our ways though this using the Mark Williams C example programs on disk and in the book, and gotten these things to work, but they FREQUENTLY conflict with each other!! For example, to access the 'drawing tools box' the user clicks the right mouse button, and it pops up on the screen. Well, if the mouse is in the menu bar with a menu pulled down, and you press the right mouse button, the tools box pops up on the screen. Or how about this... When drawing below the menu bar, and you enter it, strange things happen, like messing up the bar itself, or worse, it looses track of whether the mouse is on or it is off, losing it completely. Obviously we are doing it wrong... How do we set up evnt_multi (or do we even use it?) to detect either mouse buttons, stop checking for other things when we are in the menu bar, and continue checking after we decide we didn't want to invoke the menu bar in the first place? Any insights into our problem would be greatly appreciated!! AAron nAAs opielask@clutx.clarkson.edu or naas17@snypotba.bitnet (Oh, did I mention that this assignment was due a month ago?) ------------------------------ Date: 6 Apr 90 22:51:20 GMT From: eru!luth!sunic!mcsun!unido!fauern!ira.uka.de!smurf!gopnbg!altger!doitcr!nadia!m arauder@BLOOM-BEACON.MIT.EDU (Stefan Hess) Subject: Turbo-C: price/availability? Message-ID: <861@nadia.UUCP> I bought the TC V2.0 at the ceBit fair for 370,- DM, but that was a special price only for the fair. The professional package is priced around 450,- DM and the normal package around 250,- DM, which is roughly US$ 270 and US$ 150. The pro package contains the compiler, source debugger and a macro assembler plus BGI graphic libraries. Hope this helps, Stefan. -- _ _ MAR-3H Marauder Don't leave your dropship without one ! /\V/\ 8/"\8 "Everybody should have an opinion." (Carmen K.-S.) ~ ~ marauder@nadia.UUCP / ..!uunet!unido!nadia!marauder / ++49-711-252624 ------------------------------ Date: 8 Apr 90 18:50:16 GMT From: sdd.hp.com!cs.utexas.edu!usc!zaphod.mps.ohio-state.edu!rpi!uupsi!sunic!tut!ra!u wasa.fi!hv@decwrl.dec.com (Harri Valkama LAKE) Subject: UniTerm Message-ID: <1990Apr8.185016.6112@uwasa.fi> In article cmm1@CUNIXA.CC.COLUMBIA.EDU (Christopher M Mauritz) writes: >I noticed that Simon Poole posted the address of the newest version of >UniTerm. I FTPed over and took a looksie and the file is COMPRESSed >and SHARed. As I don't have SHAR on my system, I can't get at the >binary. Could some kind soul either mail me the binary or post it to >c.b.a.st? Other possibility is that you ftp it from funic.funet.fi where I've put the same file available as a .zoo file. Address below. -- ----------------Harri Valkama (hv@uwasa.fi)---------------- University of Vaasa, Finland ftp site (128.214.12.3) PC & Mac directories & ftp site Funic.funet.fi (128.214.6.100) Atari ST directory ------------------------------ Date: 9 Apr 90 02:08:41 GMT From: pacific.mps.ohio-state.edu!zaphod.mps.ohio-state.edu!brutus.cs.uiuc.edu!ux1.cso .uiuc.edu!cs325ec@tut.cis.ohio-state.edu (Gregory Lemperle-Kerr) Subject: UniTerm Message-ID: <1990Apr9.020841.23290@ux1.cso.uiuc.edu> That is TAR'd, I believe, not SHAR'd. I put the file at terminator, I think it is now located in telecomm/. I got STTAR and uncompress.ttp (oops, compress.ttp) from ??.fi. and uncompressed it on the Atari side. -- Greg ------------------------------ End of INFO-ATARI16 Digest V90 Issue #425 *****************************************